OK.
I've been talking with someone who knows the people involved with finding this and the other lost TOTP performances..
He confirms that Killer Queen was recorded by Dick Emery who had a problem with his ariel lead/socket on his VCR, hence why the start is nothing but "noise" until he plugged it in properly!
An even simpler answer than the one postulated by Barry!
Seven Seas and Now I'm Here were all recorded by a 30yr old enthusiast (no name given) who owned two VCRs: one which recorded in colour and the other which recorded in Black and White.
With the 7 seas performances the tapes were not "baked" in an oven correctly hence the colour drop out and tape "wobble", which might explain why QPL gave us that "mix" version on the bluray.
Oh, and before anyone asks, the answer is "No". I cannot get hold of any of these from this guy - he adamantly refuses to share/trade/sell because, whilst he has copies, he is not the person who "owns" the original collection.
And don't ask me for his name as I won't divulge it.
Barry Durex · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]brians wig wrote:[/b]
OK.
I've been talking with someone who knows the people involved with finding this and the other lost TOTP performances..
He confirms that Killer Queen was recorded by Dick Emery who had a problem with his ariel lead/socket on his VCR, hence why the start is nothing but "noise" until he plugged it in properly!
An even simpler answer than the one postulated by Barry!
Seven Seas and Now I'm Here were all recorded by a 30yr old enthusiast (no name given) who owned two VCRs: one which recorded in colour and the other which recorded in Black and White.
the 7 seas performances the tapes were not "baked" in an oven correctly hence the colour drop out and tape "wobble", which might explain why QPL gave us that "mix" version on the bluray.
Oh, and before anyone asks, the answer is "No". I cannot get hold of any of these from this guy - he adamantly refuses to share/trade/sell because, whilst he has copies, he is not the person who "owns" the original collection.
And don't ask me for his name as I won't divulge it.[/QUOTE]
A VHS tape was baked? I thought the Seven Seas B/W version was ''out there'' already, isn't it this one?---
brians wig · Member since
This was pre-VHS Barry. They're probably Phillips VCR's like we had in school in those days: the ones with the square 60 minute cassettes, or cartrivision maybe. I'll ask.
Two of the seven seas peformances have been available in terrible quality for decades as you know, but obviously the copies QPL now possess are better quality and from this enthusiasts archive.
It's "those" original mid 70's tapes that were baked incorrectly.
Barry Durex · Member since
I'm not sure Philips VC tapes would be bake proof either http://www.oldtechnology.net/images/philipscassette.jpg
I'm still confused, a thirty year old enthusiast who wasn't even born in 1974 recorded two performances of TOTP in 1974?
cmsdrums · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]brians wig wrote:[/b]
OK.
I've been talking with someone who knows the people involved with finding this and the other lost TOTP performances..
He confirms that Killer Queen was recorded by Dick Emery who had a problem with his ariel lead/socket on his VCR, hence why the start is nothing but "noise" until he plugged it in properly!
An even simpler answer than the one postulated by Barry!
Seven Seas and Now I'm Here were all recorded by a 30yr old enthusiast (no name given) who owned two VCRs: one which recorded in colour and the other which recorded in Black and White.
With the 7 seas performances the tapes were not "baked" in an oven correctly hence the colour drop out and tape "wobble", which might explain why QPL gave us that "mix" version on the bluray.
Oh, and before anyone asks, the answer is "No". I cannot get hold of any of these from this guy - he adamantly refuses to share/trade/sell because, whilst he has copies, he is not the person who "owns" the original collection.
And don't ask me for his name as I won't divulge it.[/QUOTE]
Not asking if this is your source or not, but Ian Levine has a collection of TOTP and other TV show performances to rival most.
brians wig · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Barry Durex wrote:[/b]
I'm not sure Philips VC tapes would be bake proof either http://www.oldtechnology.net/images/philipscassette.jpg
I'm still confused, a thirty year old enthusiast who wasn't even born in 1974 recorded two performances of TOTP in 1974? [/QUOTE]
Maybe he was 30 in 1974...?
And you take the tapes out of the shells....?
Look. I'm just passing on what I was told.
No. It's not Ian Levine that I'm aware of.
GinjaNinja · Member since
Is there any chance the tapes could still be properly baked to get a good playback?
brians wig · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]GinjaNinja wrote:[/b]
Is there any chance the tapes could still be properly baked to get a good playback?[/QUOTE]
The magnetic material on tapes tends to break down as time goes by and you get what's known as "Sticky Tape Syndrome".
Baking temprarily dries them out so the tape can be unwound during playback without tearing and pulling the oxides etc off and most of the time it's possible to make a transfer without serious issues, though damage has already been done to the tape and thus pictures aren't always perfect.
Rebaking won't improve matters. It's a one-shot option I think.
GinjaNinja · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]brians wig wrote:[/b]
The magnetic material on tapes tends to break down as time goes by and you get what's known as "Sticky Tape Syndrome".
Baking temprarily dries them out so the tape can be unwound during playback without tearing and pulling the oxides etc off and most of the time it's possible to make a transfer without serious issues, though damage has already been done to the tape and thus pictures aren't always perfect.
Rebaking won't improve matters. It's a one-shot option I think.
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I thought as much, what a shame. Hopefully they don't use the same people to bake their multitrack tapes!