indy19
I think this FreddieDearie person also has YT accounts... a lot of obsessive Mary fans are on there spewing comments on videos.
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doughnut
no need for obsessive mary/jim fans , what is done is done. Time is a healer so lets just appreciate that Freddie was a great performance and musician . I'm sure that is what he would rather we all talk about :)
She says through gritted teeth ...ha ha ha
She says through gritted teeth ...ha ha ha
back.chat
People please don't pay too much attention to FreddieDearie. She had a Instagram account (in addition to several ghost accounts) that she uses to harass fans that dare to say anything positive about Jim.
Now that I have registered on QZ I come to see she's doing the same over here. Please don't feed her as that is what she's indulging in.
Now that I have registered on QZ I come to see she's doing the same over here. Please don't feed her as that is what she's indulging in.
dysan
To be honest dude, unless the user's post count is in the 1000s they tend not to get read.
back.chat
Are you referring to mine or FreddieDearie's post count?
Either way, you have to start at one point. I think the content of the post should be more important.
Either way, you have to start at one point. I think the content of the post should be more important.
dysan
I don't know who anyone is tbh
dysan
I quickly looked in that long thread on the other forum and I felt like C3PO surrounded by Ewoks in Return Of The Jedi.
FreddieDearie
Invisible Woman:
"@ FreddieDearie
Low standards? All right.
It's probably that the presentation of your personal opinion and view as a fact is a very high standard. "
Hey. Not my opinion. It's what Larry told me about his time at Garden Lodge.
Sorry you don't understand the difference between an opinion or an anecdote. But hey, it's upmto you if you want to brush up on yourmsecond grade level vocabulary.
Invisible Woman:
"I see nothing scandalous about the fact that two adults persons in love kiss and hug each other, talking to each other, make love, having sex.."
Neither do I, that's not what gay fetishizing is. Please look it up so you know the difference between it and just talking about sex. And get back to me when you’re better informed. Because clearly you haven’t a clue.
Invisible Woman:
" Freddie has spoken in interviews about sex and promiscuity. His family knew that he was gay and from what he was ill. "
And? Still has nothing to do with what I said, or anything to do with the fetishizing I referred to *gee, you’re not very bright.
Invisible Woman:
"They probably knew what Jim was to Freddie and how much he meant to Freddie although they no spoken about it. "
Probably why Phoebe would let Jim ride in the first car. Because they all knew Hutton was a fraud. ????????????
Invisible Woman:
"You blame Jim published the book after Freddie's death but what are you doing?
No I blame Jim for a book of lies and unnecessary luridness
Invisible Woman:
Jim didn't humiliated him with any of the sentences in the book and interviews."
Yes, he did. Sorry again for your low standards. Seems to be a pattern with you.
"And you? "
I correct the lies.
Invisible Woman:
"I don't have Instagram account but I know what you are doing there and I have read some of your comments and your conversations between your several different accounts"
WOW . You so obsessed!
Again your obsession with and paranoia about who you think I am is quite flattering.
You're words say you "don't care" but your behavior shows you care very much about whoever you think
I am
Invisible Woman:
". Humiliation of a dead person is a high standard?"
That's what Jim did to Freddie, so apparently you think so.
Invisible Woman:
"Is accusing a dead person without any proof that was abusive alcoholic a high standard?
Just because you are personally ignorant of or in denial of proof doesn't meant it doesn't exist. Yes, truth telling will always be a high standard for me. Sorry it's not for you.
".Is zooming photo of his teeth even you know it was a sick is high standard?"
Have no idea what you're referring to, but I know of no pictures of Hutton's teeth when he was sick.
But did someone make fun of those HORRIBLY stained teeth? Yeah. They were REALLY bad.
Besides, people who made fun of Mary for aging can't take moral high ground on this one. Pure hypocrisy.
Invisible Woman:
"Is humiliation of a sick man high standard?
Jim did it to Freddie so apparently you think so.
Invisible Woman:
"When Freddie wears Winnie's ring then they were "married" and when he wears Jim's ring then Jim forced him to wear ring. "
Yes, that's what the evidence shows and Jim himself wrote about.
Freddie openly wore Winnie's ring for over two years, Also Freddie bought Winnie a very expensive wedding ring (although, Winnie, the asshole that he was, threw it out to spite Freddie. He was a nasty S.O.B.)
Details:
Jim tells us in his book Freddie wouldn't wear Jim's ring when he went out for a YEAR until Jim guilted him into keeping it on. Also Freddie refused to personally but Jim a ring, and ended up giving Jim a check when Jim stuck his nose up at a bracelet. JIM HAD TO BUY HIS OWN RING.
JUST THAT FACTS. Please educate yourself.
Invisible Woman:
"If you like something Peter Freestone says, or someone else, you write about it the essay, "
What essay?
Not based on what I like or dislike. Based on Evidence.
Invisible Woman:
"and if you don't like what he (or someone else) says, you simply skip it."
No I make determinations based on corroborative evidence and/or whether someone has conflicts of interest and/or selfish motives, or a need to hide something or a need to cover for something.
It's called deductive reasoning, Socratic thinking etc.
You should try it some day. It's what intelligent grown-ups do.
That how things are Punkin. When Peter or anyone says things, somethings are accurate or some aren't. Some things are truth, some are disinformation or lies.
There are legitimate thoughtful ways to determine which is which.
Invisible Woman:
"This topic still has title "Mary Austin" and I see you adore her."
Actually I was never much of a Mary fan or Mary hater. I'm a Freddiestan and accuracy Stan.
Invisible Woman:
"Mary said she fell in love with Freddie after three years of their relationship. "
Good for her. I can't stand women who fall "in love" at the drop of a hat. Slow to give love, slow to leave love. They're always the strongest deeper loves of substance. The love of an adult, not a schoolgirl.
Invisible Woman:
She probably waited that Freddie became popular. I suppose it's a high standard. Actually, that would've been in 72... so yeah. Not so much yet.
She was still financially supporting him at that point So he could persue his dreams.
Invisible Woman:
"I don't represent my opinion as a fact"
Good for you. Neither do I. Too bad for you you're all opinion and without facts.
I have both opinion and facts. And no how to discern which is which.
Invisible Woman:
"and I am quite capable of thinking with my own brain."
Yeah. Let us know when you decide to start.
But you're self-evidently unable to discern facts, only opinion. That's sad. But not surprising.
Invisible Woman:
"And you act like you were there every moment with Freddie, Jim, Peter, Mary, Joe, Winnie etc. "
No, I act like I'm very informed.
Invisible Woman:
"and you know everything. "
Never asserted I know everything. That's just your perception.
Invisible Woman:
"It's like someone pays you to do what you are doing"
Oh, no. That's Thor and Lee's schtick to profit off of Freddie's death.
I do what I do for the sake of learning who Freddie TRULY was.
Invisible Woman:
" or are sickly jealous of Freddie's and Jim's love"
Naw. My 30's anniversary to my partner is this year. Been a breathtakingly wonderful coupling!
Besides, I cant be jealous of something that didn't REALLY exist or was not particularly special.
Invisible Woman:
". It's really weird."
Yes, your dime-store fantasies and pathological denials ARE wierd. I agree.
WHY make up fraudulent romances like Hutton/Freddie!? Isn't his reality ebought for you?
Invisible Woman:
"Did you ever discuss his music? "
All the time. Have a dedicated separate account for that, and even wrote a thesis about it in college.
Would you like to discuss the chord structure of "Body Language" and which song from 1980, with vocalist Luther Vandross, Freddie was inspired by?
Betcha have ZERO clue.
So, I won't hold my breath as I suspect your knowlege about that is as limited as your knowlege re: Hutton.
"@ FreddieDearie
Low standards? All right.
It's probably that the presentation of your personal opinion and view as a fact is a very high standard. "
Hey. Not my opinion. It's what Larry told me about his time at Garden Lodge.
Sorry you don't understand the difference between an opinion or an anecdote. But hey, it's upmto you if you want to brush up on yourmsecond grade level vocabulary.
Invisible Woman:
"I see nothing scandalous about the fact that two adults persons in love kiss and hug each other, talking to each other, make love, having sex.."
Neither do I, that's not what gay fetishizing is. Please look it up so you know the difference between it and just talking about sex. And get back to me when you’re better informed. Because clearly you haven’t a clue.
Invisible Woman:
" Freddie has spoken in interviews about sex and promiscuity. His family knew that he was gay and from what he was ill. "
And? Still has nothing to do with what I said, or anything to do with the fetishizing I referred to *gee, you’re not very bright.
Invisible Woman:
"They probably knew what Jim was to Freddie and how much he meant to Freddie although they no spoken about it. "
Probably why Phoebe would let Jim ride in the first car. Because they all knew Hutton was a fraud. ????????????
Invisible Woman:
"You blame Jim published the book after Freddie's death but what are you doing?
No I blame Jim for a book of lies and unnecessary luridness
Invisible Woman:
Jim didn't humiliated him with any of the sentences in the book and interviews."
Yes, he did. Sorry again for your low standards. Seems to be a pattern with you.
"And you? "
I correct the lies.
Invisible Woman:
"I don't have Instagram account but I know what you are doing there and I have read some of your comments and your conversations between your several different accounts"
WOW . You so obsessed!
Again your obsession with and paranoia about who you think I am is quite flattering.
You're words say you "don't care" but your behavior shows you care very much about whoever you think
I am
Invisible Woman:
". Humiliation of a dead person is a high standard?"
That's what Jim did to Freddie, so apparently you think so.
Invisible Woman:
"Is accusing a dead person without any proof that was abusive alcoholic a high standard?
Just because you are personally ignorant of or in denial of proof doesn't meant it doesn't exist. Yes, truth telling will always be a high standard for me. Sorry it's not for you.
".Is zooming photo of his teeth even you know it was a sick is high standard?"
Have no idea what you're referring to, but I know of no pictures of Hutton's teeth when he was sick.
But did someone make fun of those HORRIBLY stained teeth? Yeah. They were REALLY bad.
Besides, people who made fun of Mary for aging can't take moral high ground on this one. Pure hypocrisy.
Invisible Woman:
"Is humiliation of a sick man high standard?
Jim did it to Freddie so apparently you think so.
Invisible Woman:
"When Freddie wears Winnie's ring then they were "married" and when he wears Jim's ring then Jim forced him to wear ring. "
Yes, that's what the evidence shows and Jim himself wrote about.
Freddie openly wore Winnie's ring for over two years, Also Freddie bought Winnie a very expensive wedding ring (although, Winnie, the asshole that he was, threw it out to spite Freddie. He was a nasty S.O.B.)
Details:
Jim tells us in his book Freddie wouldn't wear Jim's ring when he went out for a YEAR until Jim guilted him into keeping it on. Also Freddie refused to personally but Jim a ring, and ended up giving Jim a check when Jim stuck his nose up at a bracelet. JIM HAD TO BUY HIS OWN RING.
JUST THAT FACTS. Please educate yourself.
Invisible Woman:
"If you like something Peter Freestone says, or someone else, you write about it the essay, "
What essay?
Not based on what I like or dislike. Based on Evidence.
Invisible Woman:
"and if you don't like what he (or someone else) says, you simply skip it."
No I make determinations based on corroborative evidence and/or whether someone has conflicts of interest and/or selfish motives, or a need to hide something or a need to cover for something.
It's called deductive reasoning, Socratic thinking etc.
You should try it some day. It's what intelligent grown-ups do.
That how things are Punkin. When Peter or anyone says things, somethings are accurate or some aren't. Some things are truth, some are disinformation or lies.
There are legitimate thoughtful ways to determine which is which.
Invisible Woman:
"This topic still has title "Mary Austin" and I see you adore her."
Actually I was never much of a Mary fan or Mary hater. I'm a Freddiestan and accuracy Stan.
Invisible Woman:
"Mary said she fell in love with Freddie after three years of their relationship. "
Good for her. I can't stand women who fall "in love" at the drop of a hat. Slow to give love, slow to leave love. They're always the strongest deeper loves of substance. The love of an adult, not a schoolgirl.
Invisible Woman:
She probably waited that Freddie became popular. I suppose it's a high standard. Actually, that would've been in 72... so yeah. Not so much yet.
She was still financially supporting him at that point So he could persue his dreams.
Invisible Woman:
"I don't represent my opinion as a fact"
Good for you. Neither do I. Too bad for you you're all opinion and without facts.
I have both opinion and facts. And no how to discern which is which.
Invisible Woman:
"and I am quite capable of thinking with my own brain."
Yeah. Let us know when you decide to start.
But you're self-evidently unable to discern facts, only opinion. That's sad. But not surprising.
Invisible Woman:
"And you act like you were there every moment with Freddie, Jim, Peter, Mary, Joe, Winnie etc. "
No, I act like I'm very informed.
Invisible Woman:
"and you know everything. "
Never asserted I know everything. That's just your perception.
Invisible Woman:
"It's like someone pays you to do what you are doing"
Oh, no. That's Thor and Lee's schtick to profit off of Freddie's death.
I do what I do for the sake of learning who Freddie TRULY was.
Invisible Woman:
" or are sickly jealous of Freddie's and Jim's love"
Naw. My 30's anniversary to my partner is this year. Been a breathtakingly wonderful coupling!
Besides, I cant be jealous of something that didn't REALLY exist or was not particularly special.
Invisible Woman:
". It's really weird."
Yes, your dime-store fantasies and pathological denials ARE wierd. I agree.
WHY make up fraudulent romances like Hutton/Freddie!? Isn't his reality ebought for you?
Invisible Woman:
"Did you ever discuss his music? "
All the time. Have a dedicated separate account for that, and even wrote a thesis about it in college.
Would you like to discuss the chord structure of "Body Language" and which song from 1980, with vocalist Luther Vandross, Freddie was inspired by?
Betcha have ZERO clue.
So, I won't hold my breath as I suspect your knowlege about that is as limited as your knowlege re: Hutton.
Holly2003
[QUOTE] [b]dysan wrote:[/b]
I quickly looked in that long thread on the other forum and I felt like C3PO surrounded by Ewoks in Return Of The Jedi.[/QUOTE]
Ha! very good.
There are some very odd people on that thread, most of them shouting at each other like the two teams in Twilight -- Team Mary & Team Jim in a Terrific Tussle of Tumultuous Titans!
It's just as well the rest of Queenzone is so friendly, normal, and filled to the brim with interesting chat and info ...
I quickly looked in that long thread on the other forum and I felt like C3PO surrounded by Ewoks in Return Of The Jedi.[/QUOTE]
Ha! very good.
There are some very odd people on that thread, most of them shouting at each other like the two teams in Twilight -- Team Mary & Team Jim in a Terrific Tussle of Tumultuous Titans!
It's just as well the rest of Queenzone is so friendly, normal, and filled to the brim with interesting chat and info ...
mariah carey
Hairy Austin
MisterCosmicc
@ FreddieDearie ... aren’t you ‘melinamercouri_’?
Invisible Woman
@FreddieDearie
I said that I will not go into discussion with you in other thread anymore, but I can do it again in this topic and after this post I will only ignore your posts here.
You think that you are so important. No one is obsessed with you.
I've seen your few posts on social networks and it was enough to realize that you are only obsessed with a dead man ( in the worst possible sense). You are also obsessed with people who not interested in "your truth" and "your facts".
You're trying to convince people that you are not someone from Instagram and try to prove that there are many people who "believe in your truth". The style of writing and the topics you want to discuss here on Queenzone clearly show that you are the same person who has several accounts there.
Yes, you will constantly repeat one and the same thing in the hope that your fantasy will become true if you repeat it constantly. Sorry, it won't.
You repeat over and over about the ring, the book, your friend Larry, about what someone supposedly said and what someone supposedly did, etc. It's not even funny anymore.
I don't like "Bodie Language". If you want to disscus about music and songs, there are on QZ a lot of topics, choose the topics you want, give your opinion. But when you come here your only goal is to insulting members, insulting Jim, that you act as superior to other people ... Here, continue to do it, but I will not answer you anymore. And I believe other members will not answer you anymore.
Take care of your morals and your standards, and I will go with my own.
Goodbye.
I said that I will not go into discussion with you in other thread anymore, but I can do it again in this topic and after this post I will only ignore your posts here.
You think that you are so important. No one is obsessed with you.
I've seen your few posts on social networks and it was enough to realize that you are only obsessed with a dead man ( in the worst possible sense). You are also obsessed with people who not interested in "your truth" and "your facts".
You're trying to convince people that you are not someone from Instagram and try to prove that there are many people who "believe in your truth". The style of writing and the topics you want to discuss here on Queenzone clearly show that you are the same person who has several accounts there.
Yes, you will constantly repeat one and the same thing in the hope that your fantasy will become true if you repeat it constantly. Sorry, it won't.
You repeat over and over about the ring, the book, your friend Larry, about what someone supposedly said and what someone supposedly did, etc. It's not even funny anymore.
I don't like "Bodie Language". If you want to disscus about music and songs, there are on QZ a lot of topics, choose the topics you want, give your opinion. But when you come here your only goal is to insulting members, insulting Jim, that you act as superior to other people ... Here, continue to do it, but I will not answer you anymore. And I believe other members will not answer you anymore.
Take care of your morals and your standards, and I will go with my own.
Goodbye.
FreddieDearie
Invisible,Woman
Of course you won't go into discussion with me. Because you know you’ll lose the argument when you do. That's what people who lack of substance do, run away.
Not surprising. In fact, quite predictable.
Of course you won't go into discussion with me. Because you know you’ll lose the argument when you do. That's what people who lack of substance do, run away.
Not surprising. In fact, quite predictable.
FreddieDearie
Galileo:
FreddieDearie, have you ever watched any Queen concerts or listened to stuff Freddie says? If that’s the big “lurid” secret that Jim told, it’s no big surprise. "
Yes I have. Freddie NEVER publically got that LURID about his sex life.
Freddie joking around about wanting everyone to get fucked like he does...
..
Is a COMPLETELY different thing than an ex-lover telling his parents and the world that Freddie usually took it up the ass, and that he pissed himself when he was dying, or that Freddie screamed out in excurtiating pain and went into a siezure when Hutton broke his bones.
.
Those details were not Hutton's place to tell. And they WERE NOT NECESSARY t tell Jim’s story. It was purely sensationalism to sell books.
.
There is no denying that while Freddie didnt deny his sexuality, he chose not to get exactly specific about it. Sometimes he waa gay as a daffodil, or said he engaged in "poofery" or slept with anything that moved.
.
But no Freddie NEVER got specifically LURID like telling people he was the one who liked to take it up the ass. (And no it's not obvious, not all gay men have anal sex)
,
And if you understand the context of the time, gay men didn't always advertise when they were "receuvers" because they became targets for being beaten and raped. It was seen as a betrayal to tell that detail.
.
Hutton only saidnit because he wanted to make sure everyone knew HE was usually the "top". That he was the more "masculine" of the two. It was a nasty, passive-aggressive thing for him to do.
FreddieDearie, have you ever watched any Queen concerts or listened to stuff Freddie says? If that’s the big “lurid” secret that Jim told, it’s no big surprise. "
Yes I have. Freddie NEVER publically got that LURID about his sex life.
Freddie joking around about wanting everyone to get fucked like he does...
..
Is a COMPLETELY different thing than an ex-lover telling his parents and the world that Freddie usually took it up the ass, and that he pissed himself when he was dying, or that Freddie screamed out in excurtiating pain and went into a siezure when Hutton broke his bones.
.
Those details were not Hutton's place to tell. And they WERE NOT NECESSARY t tell Jim’s story. It was purely sensationalism to sell books.
.
There is no denying that while Freddie didnt deny his sexuality, he chose not to get exactly specific about it. Sometimes he waa gay as a daffodil, or said he engaged in "poofery" or slept with anything that moved.
.
But no Freddie NEVER got specifically LURID like telling people he was the one who liked to take it up the ass. (And no it's not obvious, not all gay men have anal sex)
,
And if you understand the context of the time, gay men didn't always advertise when they were "receuvers" because they became targets for being beaten and raped. It was seen as a betrayal to tell that detail.
.
Hutton only saidnit because he wanted to make sure everyone knew HE was usually the "top". That he was the more "masculine" of the two. It was a nasty, passive-aggressive thing for him to do.
FreddieDearie
Doughnut
"I have seen this crazy person so that in the last week of Freddie's life, Jim was enjoying himself at a very seedy club"
Jim himself said he went to "The Gate Club" In Notting Hill. Mentioned it numerous times in his book.
The Gate Club in Notting Hill was a BDSM club. (Not a bar, it only sold drinks to those who were there to use the private rooms for SADOMASOCHISTIC sex..l.
(I can provide you a picture of the club in Notting Hill and the current website.)
"Master Keith has been running the World famous Gate Club for many, many years.
In it's current inception it is held in Demonics Dungeon in Kent, which can boast one of the most extensively equipped dungeons in the UK.
Master Keith has been running events for over 35 years all around the world and is extremely well known !"
Later in the 1990's the DUNGEON part of the club shut down in Notting Hill and moved to Kent, about an hour outside the city. (As they were being hastled by neighbors and police)
Jim himself ADMITS he regularly attended the Gate Club and specifically the Thursday before Freddie died, as he lay on his death bed and then again the day after Freddie died on Monday.
.
No Im not saying there's anything wrong with going to a sex club in and of itself. But it's not what a loving partner would do as their spouse is suffering on their death bed, or the immediate aftermath of his death.
.
The Gate Club is also where a friend of Freddies Chauffer (Graham) and his boyfrind (Gordon) approached Jim at "The Gate Club" and told him he knew everything about Hutton and Freddie. Even told Jim the details of what he'd been told.
In other words, IN THE MIDDLE OF A SADOMASOCHISTIC SEX CLUB, he was essentially threating Jim with potential extortion.
.
Freddie fired his Chauffer, Graham Hamilton.
So yes, it’s is God-damn true.
.
The fact that you have to bend over backwards to deny it happened (even though Hutton literally NAMES the club in his book numerous times), reveals that you know that's not a good look for Hutton.
.
But you care more about protecting Hutton, than standing up for Freddie.
"I have seen this crazy person so that in the last week of Freddie's life, Jim was enjoying himself at a very seedy club"
Jim himself said he went to "The Gate Club" In Notting Hill. Mentioned it numerous times in his book.
The Gate Club in Notting Hill was a BDSM club. (Not a bar, it only sold drinks to those who were there to use the private rooms for SADOMASOCHISTIC sex..l.
(I can provide you a picture of the club in Notting Hill and the current website.)
"Master Keith has been running the World famous Gate Club for many, many years.
In it's current inception it is held in Demonics Dungeon in Kent, which can boast one of the most extensively equipped dungeons in the UK.
Master Keith has been running events for over 35 years all around the world and is extremely well known !"
Later in the 1990's the DUNGEON part of the club shut down in Notting Hill and moved to Kent, about an hour outside the city. (As they were being hastled by neighbors and police)
Jim himself ADMITS he regularly attended the Gate Club and specifically the Thursday before Freddie died, as he lay on his death bed and then again the day after Freddie died on Monday.
.
No Im not saying there's anything wrong with going to a sex club in and of itself. But it's not what a loving partner would do as their spouse is suffering on their death bed, or the immediate aftermath of his death.
.
The Gate Club is also where a friend of Freddies Chauffer (Graham) and his boyfrind (Gordon) approached Jim at "The Gate Club" and told him he knew everything about Hutton and Freddie. Even told Jim the details of what he'd been told.
In other words, IN THE MIDDLE OF A SADOMASOCHISTIC SEX CLUB, he was essentially threating Jim with potential extortion.
.
Freddie fired his Chauffer, Graham Hamilton.
So yes, it’s is God-damn true.
.
The fact that you have to bend over backwards to deny it happened (even though Hutton literally NAMES the club in his book numerous times), reveals that you know that's not a good look for Hutton.
.
But you care more about protecting Hutton, than standing up for Freddie.