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The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]Sebastian wrote:[/b]
Touring with a loser from a reality programme is much more of a priority.[/QUOTE]
While true on the surface, I've actually come to resent seeing second place as being a loser.
We have this mentality as a society, and we especially project it onto athletes. When someone wins a silver medal, sometimes newspaper headlines say "OH SO CLOSE" - as if being second best in the world isn't an achievement worth lauding.
That kind of grinds my gears.
I digress.
Carry on !
Touring with a loser from a reality programme is much more of a priority.[/QUOTE]
While true on the surface, I've actually come to resent seeing second place as being a loser.
We have this mentality as a society, and we especially project it onto athletes. When someone wins a silver medal, sometimes newspaper headlines say "OH SO CLOSE" - as if being second best in the world isn't an achievement worth lauding.
That kind of grinds my gears.
I digress.
Carry on !
Sebastian
You could see it from another angle: the word 'loser' hasn't got to have a negative connotation.
We have this mentality as a society, and especially project it onto athletes, to the point that they'd rather cheat than enjoy their profession.
We have this mentality as a society, and especially project it onto athletes, to the point that they'd rather cheat than enjoy their profession.
Togg
Sorry Seb, but I have to say simply putting the term loser into the sentence makes it clear despite your explaination that you being derogatory, you wouldn't have said Freddie Mercury poof... then backed it up with well he is... I get that he lost a competition and that's fact, but really... be honest you were not exactly shining a light on his talent....
Personally I do get rather bored of the same old comments comming up everytime they tour, time to move on really, they are now more popular than they were when Freddie was alive fact, they have been together longer without him than with fact, and they still pull big global audiences fact... Not bad for band fronted by a loser...
I get that many only like to hear the the old recordings, that's cool, but no creative artist is ever satisfied if they walk away when they have more to say or do, pretty well all major rock bands continue to play with major member of the original lineup so why should Queen be any different? I respect your decision not to folow what they do now, that's cool, but I really think we are beyond slagging Adam off now aren't we?
Personally I do get rather bored of the same old comments comming up everytime they tour, time to move on really, they are now more popular than they were when Freddie was alive fact, they have been together longer without him than with fact, and they still pull big global audiences fact... Not bad for band fronted by a loser...
I get that many only like to hear the the old recordings, that's cool, but no creative artist is ever satisfied if they walk away when they have more to say or do, pretty well all major rock bands continue to play with major member of the original lineup so why should Queen be any different? I respect your decision not to folow what they do now, that's cool, but I really think we are beyond slagging Adam off now aren't we?
Sebastian
[QUOTE] [b]Togg wrote:[/b]
Sorry Seb, but I have to say simply putting the term loser into the sentence makes it clear despite your explaination that you being derogatory, you wouldn't have said Freddie Mercury poof... then backed it up with well he is... I get that he lost a competition and that's fact, but really... be honest you were not exactly shining a light on his talent....
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I often refer to Frederick as 'Lord Teeth' and to Brian as 'Dr Wig.' Neither nickname is shining a light on their talent ... so? In fact, Brian doesn't even wear a wig ... so?
And yeah, if anyone wanted to refer to Fred as 'Freddie Poof' they'd be entitled to say so... as you correctly pointed out, well, he was. Also acceptable: 'The African One,' 'Mr Overbite,' 'Moustached Apostate' (he presumably renounced his Zoroastrian faith ... sort of), 'Little McLisp' or 'King Brunet.' None of those would explain that he was also a musical genius (or at least an extremely successful and influential one), a magnificent singer, an extraordinary composer, and outstanding arranger, a brilliant producer, a unique pianist, an unforgettable showman, etc.
Sorry Seb, but I have to say simply putting the term loser into the sentence makes it clear despite your explaination that you being derogatory, you wouldn't have said Freddie Mercury poof... then backed it up with well he is... I get that he lost a competition and that's fact, but really... be honest you were not exactly shining a light on his talent....
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I often refer to Frederick as 'Lord Teeth' and to Brian as 'Dr Wig.' Neither nickname is shining a light on their talent ... so? In fact, Brian doesn't even wear a wig ... so?
And yeah, if anyone wanted to refer to Fred as 'Freddie Poof' they'd be entitled to say so... as you correctly pointed out, well, he was. Also acceptable: 'The African One,' 'Mr Overbite,' 'Moustached Apostate' (he presumably renounced his Zoroastrian faith ... sort of), 'Little McLisp' or 'King Brunet.' None of those would explain that he was also a musical genius (or at least an extremely successful and influential one), a magnificent singer, an extraordinary composer, and outstanding arranger, a brilliant producer, a unique pianist, an unforgettable showman, etc.
Togg
All true, but i guess my point was if you're not being derogatory you really appear to be doing so, and in that case I'd struggle to understand when you are infact slagging someone off, at the end of the day, Lord Teeth, Dr Wig etc are playful nicknames, Loser.... meh less so....
Sebastian
So, in case you're not clear about it: it's not derogatory. I've got nothing against Adam, nothing against the 'Idol' franchise and nothing against the idea of Maylor touring with whomever they please.
By the way, calling them 'Maylor' is not by any means an implication that they're romantic or sexual partners (since portmanteaux are *usually - not always* employed for romantic/sexual couples, just like the term 'loser' is *usually - not always* derogatory), and the fact I'm not implying that is not an implication of any latent homophobia, transphobia, Maylorphobia, blondphobia, curlyphobia or heptagrathmaphobia (since 'Maylor' has six letters rather than seven).
By the way, calling them 'Maylor' is not by any means an implication that they're romantic or sexual partners (since portmanteaux are *usually - not always* employed for romantic/sexual couples, just like the term 'loser' is *usually - not always* derogatory), and the fact I'm not implying that is not an implication of any latent homophobia, transphobia, Maylorphobia, blondphobia, curlyphobia or heptagrathmaphobia (since 'Maylor' has six letters rather than seven).
RS_Protos
" but I really think we are beyond slagging Adam off now aren't we? " Personally not even close :) and I don't blame AL, all on "Maylor"(love this word!). Also they are not "creative artist" anymore, just playing the "old" songs which is fine and they can do whatever they want, but for me it's horrible the AL thing.....
mike hunt
I agree, not a fan of Queen + anything. AL or Rodgers. Not that it's a huge deal too me these days, the world has bigger problems but still not a fan. Most major artists from the Queen generation are at least trying to be creative. Queen are playing We Will Rock You and Another One Bites The Dust over and over while creating nothing new. Kind of sad. Fans from the 70's who saw Queen in 1986 probably were disappointed in the fact that they played less 70's stuff and more Works and Magic songs, but at least they were still being creative. The live version of Magic was excellent. I'm going too see Maiden for the first time since 1999. I'm sure they're gonna play a lot of the new stuff that I'm not crazy about, but at least they're still creating new music. It Just shows you how important Mercury was to Queen. Yea, they had their peak in the 70's' but they were still putting out some great songs till Freddie passed. Since then? Not one classic song.
RS_Protos
Just watched the new video with BM and the new monopoly game (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8b6_wWpR4Q&t=305s). According to BM it was like creating a new album, took a year and a half to make, so there's the creativity lately...... Seriously? Is it me or this is ridiculous? Losing more and more respect.
GonnaUseMyPrisoners
Choosing to say "loser" is just taking a pot shot. Cheap and off topic. So is platypus excrement. Coincidentally, the two have the same value.
I wouldn't expect a recorded release this year, but I think those of us who go and see the tour will be treated to a new Queen concert experience (May described as immersive) that will no doubt be big and mindblowing, like everything they do live. That'll do nicely! Only one month and one week til the show! With the amazing Lambert on the mic.
I wouldn't expect a recorded release this year, but I think those of us who go and see the tour will be treated to a new Queen concert experience (May described as immersive) that will no doubt be big and mindblowing, like everything they do live. That'll do nicely! Only one month and one week til the show! With the amazing Lambert on the mic.
cmi
^ Hope you still remember who is the vocalist (and much more) in 'Queen' group.
GonnaUseMyPrisoners
[QUOTE] [b]cmi wrote:[/b]
^ Hope you still remember who is the vocalist (and much more) in 'Queen' group.[/QUOTE]
LOL - "well, DUH". Wait, who?
You really felt you needed to say that? Lighten up Francis, we all remember. Moreover, we can't forget.
^ Hope you still remember who is the vocalist (and much more) in 'Queen' group.[/QUOTE]
LOL - "well, DUH". Wait, who?
You really felt you needed to say that? Lighten up Francis, we all remember. Moreover, we can't forget.
Sebastian
[QUOTE] [b]GonnaUseMyPrisoners wrote:[/b]
So is platypus excrement. Coincidentally, the two have the same value.[/QUOTE]
Platypus excrement was Frederick's favourite dung.
So is platypus excrement. Coincidentally, the two have the same value.[/QUOTE]
Platypus excrement was Frederick's favourite dung.
Togg
[QUOTE] [b]RS_Protos wrote:[/b]
Just watched the new video with BM and the new monopoly game (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8b6_wWpR4Q&t=305s). According to BM it was like creating a new album, took a year and a half to make, so there's the creativity lately...... Seriously? Is it me or this is ridiculous? Losing more and more respect.[/QUOTE]
Then I don't really understand why you have to need to be part of a forum for a band that as you feel has done anything positive for 26 years... I mean think about it... 26 years has gone by since they stopped being 'Queen' yet you are here following them and commenting, seems a bit pointless to me??
They still play the same hit tracks because thats what people want to hear, and theres no point in touring to empty venues, they keep going because like 99% of old rock acts from the 70's 80's they love performing. I'd say they are still creative artists, with all the 'creative' products, it may not be releasing 15 new albums, but if people don't want it why would you do it, had Cosmos sold well they would absolutly be recording all the time, but they have just shifted what to do to suit the demand... nothing wrong with that if people want to go see it which obviously they do
In fact it's much the same with most of the acts from their era, they all ride on the coat tails of old hits.
As for not respecting them, well again I question why you are HERE? I don't really bother going to the hassle of joining a forum for bands, people I don't respect... it's a bit of a waste of my time
Hell I don't like everything they do, but having seen pretty well every major act out there id say they can still out perform 99% them so that's why i look forward to this tour
I bet you going... go on own up you are aren't you.... just at the back somewhere....no, sure, go on you are aren't you?
Just watched the new video with BM and the new monopoly game (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8b6_wWpR4Q&t=305s). According to BM it was like creating a new album, took a year and a half to make, so there's the creativity lately...... Seriously? Is it me or this is ridiculous? Losing more and more respect.[/QUOTE]
Then I don't really understand why you have to need to be part of a forum for a band that as you feel has done anything positive for 26 years... I mean think about it... 26 years has gone by since they stopped being 'Queen' yet you are here following them and commenting, seems a bit pointless to me??
They still play the same hit tracks because thats what people want to hear, and theres no point in touring to empty venues, they keep going because like 99% of old rock acts from the 70's 80's they love performing. I'd say they are still creative artists, with all the 'creative' products, it may not be releasing 15 new albums, but if people don't want it why would you do it, had Cosmos sold well they would absolutly be recording all the time, but they have just shifted what to do to suit the demand... nothing wrong with that if people want to go see it which obviously they do
In fact it's much the same with most of the acts from their era, they all ride on the coat tails of old hits.
As for not respecting them, well again I question why you are HERE? I don't really bother going to the hassle of joining a forum for bands, people I don't respect... it's a bit of a waste of my time
Hell I don't like everything they do, but having seen pretty well every major act out there id say they can still out perform 99% them so that's why i look forward to this tour
I bet you going... go on own up you are aren't you.... just at the back somewhere....no, sure, go on you are aren't you?