Queenlive.ca turns 10 today !

Sebastian wrote:

Panchgani wrote:
I still maintain that the "what have you contributed to this site" comment was unnecessary.

Considering your 'maybe you're just a musician' attack aimed at him a while back, this is a crystal clear case of 'pot, kettle.'

Panchgani wrote:

I also do not understand how Raphael's complaint about not responding to e-mail makes him a troll.

Let's assume for a moment that he's right and Bob didn't actually reply. Even in that case (which could've had plenty of explanations such as it having gone to junk mail, an internet connexion fail at the time of pressing 'send', good old procrastination, etc), the mature course of action would've been contacting him privately again and bringing it up.

Instead, RafaelS presumably went straight to airing that dirty laundry in public, presumably trying to rain on his parade just as Bob was (rightfully and deservingly) celebrating the tenth anniversary of his fantastic website. Whether RafaelS contributed a lot, a little or nothing to QZ is completely irrelevant IMO: inflammatory comment is being inflammatory; it's being poorly timed and done in an awful way. That's what makes him a troll.

PS: Over the many, many, many instances Bob and I have failed to see eye to eye or even engaged in long-winded debates, not once has he ever been uppity or dismissive.

I have the right to express my opinion and I'm not a troll whether you like it or not. Who are you to decide if someone is something or not. I haven't threaten Wizard, I just don't like the way he behaves with people. Also, I will repeat what I said before, all you people on QZ are living in a fantasy world, but in the real world you have a very bad reputation as a place of mean people and at acting like scumbags. I've seen comments worse than mine by members like Mooghead who is always irrelevant with members and especially with newbies. Most of you people around here are very mean for no reasons most of the time. Anyway, real Queen fans and collectors don't give a shit about Queenzone anyway and I've talked to a lot of them thru the years and they have all the same poor opinion of QZ. Anyway, Sebastian you can take your troll remark and stick where the sun doesn't even think about shinning.

RafaelS wrote:


I have the right to express my opinion and I'm not a troll whether you like it or not. Who are you to decide if someone is something or not. I haven't threaten Wizard, I just don't like the way he behaves with people. Also, I will repeat what I said before, all you people on QZ are living in a fantasy world, but in the real world you have a very bad reputation as a place of mean people and at acting like scumbags. I've seen comments worse than mine by members like Mooghead who is always irrelevant with members and especially with newbies. Most of you people around here are very mean for no reasons most of the time. Anyway, real Queen fans and collectors don't give a shit about Queenzone anyway and I've talked to a lot of them thru the years and they have all the same poor opinion of QZ. Anyway, Sebastian you can take your troll remark and stick where the sun doesn't even think about shinning.

There are people here who have a huge knowledge about the band. Sebastian and the Wizard are two of those people!

If you think this site is as bad as you've said, why the fuck are you here?

Vocal harmony wrote:

RafaelS wrote:


I have the right to express my opinion and I'm not a troll whether you like it or not. Who are you to decide if someone is something or not. I haven't threaten Wizard, I just don't like the way he behaves with people. Also, I will repeat what I said before, all you people on QZ are living in a fantasy world, but in the real world you have a very bad reputation as a place of mean people and at acting like scumbags. I've seen comments worse than mine by members like Mooghead who is always irrelevant with members and especially with newbies. Most of you people around here are very mean for no reasons most of the time. Anyway, real Queen fans and collectors don't give a shit about Queenzone anyway and I've talked to a lot of them thru the years and they have all the same poor opinion of QZ. Anyway, Sebastian you can take your troll remark and stick where the sun doesn't even think about shinning.

There are people here who have a huge knowledge about the band. Sebastian and the Wizard are two of those people!

If you think this site is as bad as you've said, why the fuck are you here?

So predictable that someone would ask this question and in such an unpolite way. There are great people here like Chief Mouse, Dave76, musicland munich and others. I have the utmost respect for Chief Mouse and all the work he has done. That guy should work for QP for God's sake. But anyhow, I couldn't care less for those who hate me, just ignore me and it will be all good. There are great people on QZ, but there's a lot of retards and that makes me really sad to share the passion of such a great group as Queen with such lame people.

I use to say that "As it began" the book, is the Queen Bible.

The closer to that in a website format is Queenlive

Thanks for the wonderful work.!!

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And about the unnecesary drama, well, it seems that every Queen communnity has a local wacko with multiple identities trying to bring some attention to him . Don't worry !

RafaelS wrote:

I have the right to express my opinion

Of course you do, but it doesn't mean every opinion is valid. If I decided you were a wife-beater, even though I have zero evidence of that, I wouldn't just whine about it and say 'oh, it's my opinion, you should respect it.'

RafaelS wrote:

I'm not a troll whether you like it or not.

You do fit the definition.

RafaelS wrote:

Who are you to decide if someone is something or not.

You could ask yourself the same question.

RafaelS wrote:

I haven't threaten Wizard, I just don't like the way he behaves with people.

Trolling is not limited to issuing threats. It can simply be the fact you came to this thread to air your dirty laundry completely unprovoked and then resort to personal insults. That's being a troll.

RafaelS wrote:

all you people on QZ are living in a fantasy world

Since you're also on QZ, that applies to you as well.

RafaelS wrote:

a place of mean people and at acting like scumbags.

Like you, for instance. You fit that description: you're on QZ, you're being mean and you're acting like a scumbag. Moreover, you deny it, thus living in the fantasy world you mentioned earlier.

RafaelS wrote:

I've seen comments worse than mine

So have I, but that doesn't make your comments any better. It's like a burglar saying, 'oh, yeah, I mugged and robbed and stole, but that bloke over there stole more than I did, therefore I'm not a thief!'

RafaelS wrote:

Anyway, real Queen fans and collectors don't give a shit about Queenzone anyway and I've talked to a lot of them thru the years and they have all the same poor opinion of QZ.

And yet here you are!

RafaelS wrote:

Sebastian you can take your troll remark and stick where the sun doesn't even think about shinning.

Oh, personal insults again. Your arguments must be so sound!

RafaelS wrote:

So predictable that someone would ask this question and in such an unpolite way.

And yet here you are!

RafaelS wrote:

There are great people here...

And yet you were earlier saying this is just a place of mean people who act like scumbags. Can you make up your mind?

RafaelS wrote:

That guy should work for QP

Not really - he's not sloppy and he's not antagonistic towards fans, so he's not qualified.

RafaelS wrote:

for God's sake.

God doesn't exist.

RafaelS wrote:

I couldn't care less for those who hate me

I can't really speak for the others, but I don't think anyone hates you. Yet, self-victimisation is natural for internet trolls anyway.

RafaelS wrote:

just ignore me and it will be all good.

Why don't you take your own advice?

RafaelS wrote:

There are great people on QZ

And yet you were earlier saying this is just a place of mean people who act like scumbags. Can you make up your mind?

RafaelS wrote:

there's a lot of retards

Quoting what some internet troll said on QZ, 'Who are you to decide if someone is something or not'?

RafaelS wrote:

that makes me really sad to share the passion of such a great group as Queen with such lame people.

Paraphrasing what some internet troll said on QZ, 'just ignore (such lame people) and it will be all good.'

I've been out for a while, but over the years queenlive.ca has grown as my favourite web to look for info on Queen. Congrats for this decade and for the many more to come!

Jesus, why does shit always escalate? :D

RafaelS wrote:

Vocal harmony wrote:

RafaelS wrote:

. . . . why the fuck are you here?

So predictable that someone would ask this question and in such an unpolite way. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .There are great people on QZ, but there's a lot of retards and that makes me really sad to share the passion of such a great group as Queen with such lame people.

Predictabl and unpolite? I used the word fuck to make a point. Your reply to my post calls people on hear retards and lame. . . I presume despite the evidence you are being totally courteous and without fault!??

Sebastian wrote:

RafaelS wrote:

all you people on QZ are living in a fantasy world

Since you're also on QZ, that applies to you as well.

RafaelS wrote:

a place of mean people and at acting like scumbags.

Like you, for instance. You fit that description: you're on QZ, you're being mean and you're acting like a scumbag. Moreover, you deny it, thus living in the fantasy world you mentioned earlier.

RafaelS wrote:

I've seen comments worse than mine

So have I, but that doesn't make your comments any better. It's like a burglar saying, 'oh, yeah, I mugged and robbed and stole, but that bloke over there stole more than I did, therefore I'm not a thief!'

RafaelS wrote:

Anyway, real Queen fans and collectors don't give a shit about Queenzone anyway and I've talked to a lot of them thru the years and they have all the same poor opinion of QZ.

And yet here you are!

Classic Sebastian. Love it.

Check your e-mail, by the way n_n

I actually don't like that Sebastian sometimes. That way of dissecting a comment has been used sometimes for proving a wrong point (in my point of view). Don't have actual quotes given that I won't spend my time on that, but I think some people will agree with me, no matter in which side of whatever they are.

I should clarify, I'm not talking about any comment made by him in this topic. Just to avoid any misunderstanding.

And given that this isn't the main topic of this discussion, I must thank enormously to our dear Wanker for his great webpage. All the effort he has spent in this incredible website, those long hours, days, months, spent in making a near-perfection page. That's too much for us, thank you very much.

BETA215 wrote:

Don't have actual quotes given that I won't spend my time on that

Exactly!

Cheers to that, Bob!

Sebastian wrote:

RafaelS wrote:

I have the right to express my opinion

Of course you do, but it doesn't mean every opinion is valid. If I decided you were a wife-beater, even though I have zero evidence of that, I wouldn't just whine about it and say 'oh, it's my opinion, you should respect it.'

RafaelS wrote:

I'm not a troll whether you like it or not.

You do fit the definition.

RafaelS wrote:

Who are you to decide if someone is something or not.

You could ask yourself the same question.

RafaelS wrote:

I haven't threaten Wizard, I just don't like the way he behaves with people.

Trolling is not limited to issuing threats. It can simply be the fact you came to this thread to air your dirty laundry completely unprovoked and then resort to personal insults. That's being a troll.

RafaelS wrote:

all you people on QZ are living in a fantasy world

Since you're also on QZ, that applies to you as well.

RafaelS wrote:

a place of mean people and at acting like scumbags.

Like you, for instance. You fit that description: you're on QZ, you're being mean and you're acting like a scumbag. Moreover, you deny it, thus living in the fantasy world you mentioned earlier.

RafaelS wrote:

I've seen comments worse than mine

So have I, but that doesn't make your comments any better. It's like a burglar saying, 'oh, yeah, I mugged and robbed and stole, but that bloke over there stole more than I did, therefore I'm not a thief!'

RafaelS wrote:

Anyway, real Queen fans and collectors don't give a shit about Queenzone anyway and I've talked to a lot of them thru the years and they have all the same poor opinion of QZ.

And yet here you are!

RafaelS wrote:

Sebastian you can take your troll remark and stick where the sun doesn't even think about shinning.

Oh, personal insults again. Your arguments must be so sound!

RafaelS wrote:

So predictable that someone would ask this question and in such an unpolite way.

And yet here you are!

RafaelS wrote:

There are great people here...

And yet you were earlier saying this is just a place of mean people who act like scumbags. Can you make up your mind?

RafaelS wrote:

That guy should work for QP

Not really - he's not sloppy and he's not antagonistic towards fans, so he's not qualified.

RafaelS wrote:

for God's sake.

God doesn't exist.

RafaelS wrote:

I couldn't care less for those who hate me

I can't really speak for the others, but I don't think anyone hates you. Yet, self-victimisation is natural for internet trolls anyway.

RafaelS wrote:

just ignore me and it will be all good.

Why don't you take your own advice?

RafaelS wrote:

There are great people on QZ

And yet you were earlier saying this is just a place of mean people who act like scumbags. Can you make up your mind?

RafaelS wrote:

there's a lot of retards

Quoting what some internet troll said on QZ, 'Who are you to decide if someone is something or not'?

RafaelS wrote:

that makes me really sad to share the passion of such a great group as Queen with such lame people.

Paraphrasing what some internet troll said on QZ, 'just ignore (such lame people) and it will be all good.'

You have a lot of spare times bro...Whatever man, I won't spend my time answering all this nonsense you've written. Really, it's quite pathetic from you.

RafaelS wrote:

You have a lot of spare times

No, I do not. Typing less than 300 words (and copying and pasting a few of them) takes less than five minutes. That's 0.35% of a day, 0.05% of a week, 0.01% of a (30-day) month, 0.00095% of a non-leap year.

So, no, it's not 'a lot of spare time' if I can still use the remaining 99.65% of the day, 99.95% of the week, 99.99% of the month, 99.99905% of the year for something else.

RafaelS wrote:

I won't spend my time answering all this nonsense you've written.

In other words, you've got nothing.

RafaelS wrote:

Really, it's quite pathetic from you.

Quoting what an internet troll wrote here, 'who are you to decide if someone is something or not'?