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They still haven't re-added Spread Your Legs - I mean WINGS or It's Late to the setlist, which is what the fans want. But...I'm ok. I'm sure I'll enjoy it. Not got my tickets yet
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I'm hoping against hope that they may at least bring back one of the two from NOTW and sack off that Glambert/Pink crap.
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About previous discussions I just add this.
Freddie maybe thought he couldn't function in one-on-one relationship and then met Jim.The fact that he had such a relationships also depended on his partners,they wanted a relationship on that way whit him,but Jim no.
For me it was proof of how much he loved Jim because he realized that would lose him if he did so,and he didn't wont to lose him.
But these are just my thoughts.

That's all.
Stop.
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The quote is actually Freddie being positive about Jim as in it was FOR JIM he found a way to make it work where it hadn't before.

Before he'd deal with his need for more, more, more by cheating but discovered he could have the same fulfilment with Jim and a group of good friends on the side. That's how I interpret the interview. Just in case anyone thinks I'm saying he wasn't in love with Jim. It supports that he changed for him which shows his love
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captainjory wrote:

Ok I'm not Thor or Lee, but can I add to this? It seems that feeling alone was a lifelong problem for Freddie. When he was with his first girlfriend before Mary, she kind of worked out he wasn't into her and that really, his holding onto her was merely a fear of being alone. When the time came for her to dump him, he said 'but I don't want to be alone.' He was clearly gay but settling for a woman because of his fear.

Then later there is a quote supposedly from Mary...I say supposedly because it's from that ghastly Lesley Ann Jones book and unsourced: that Freddie had attachment issues and his fear of being alone stemmed from his being effectively abandoned at boarding school aged just 8. She blamed his parents.

Whether she said it or not, it makes sense and ties in with what Peter Freestone said about him: That he had to have someone with him most of the time, even in the bathroom. Only occasionally was he alone - when he needed to think in the garden or the studio.

Peter also said he didn't often sit down with people on a one-to-one basis and Freddie himself admitted he couldn't have a normal one-to-one relationship with an individual. Eventually he got around this problem by conducting his Jim Hutton relationship with Joe and Peter around 100% of the time. He told David Wigg in a 1987 interview that it's the only way he could make a relationship work. A relationship with an individual was too much for him to cope with so he had to be surrounded.

It seemed like an almost pathological fear of being alone. I wonder if he had some major abandonment issues. It all fits, amirite?


Hi Captainjory,

Yes, glad you've commented, I asked Thor or Lee specifically as I was wondering if Freddie ever talked about it, but interested in everyone's thoughts. I'm curious what it was like for him and what he thought the reasons for this were.

I suppose the way to survive at boarding school (emotionally) was to make sure you had a group of friends. Always a good thing but perhaps it's more of a need if someone is miles away from their parents and at boarding school. I think I read somewhere that he often had to stay at the school, or go to his aunt's during the holidays, because he was too far away from Zanzibar.



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Hello all<
I will spend Thanksgiving in Palm Springs so I am going to stop writing and have a good time. I'll be back on November 28th
or 29th. To whom it applies, have a very Happy Thanksgiving!
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A very Happy Thanksgiving to you and Lee (and whoever else might be joining you) !
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Thor,
Have a great time! :)
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Have a great Thanksgiving, Thor!

I just got word that my family is flying down from Indiana to celebrate the holiday with my brother and I, so I'm pleased as can be. It seems like the family spends less and less time together now that we've moved away, so it's a blessin!

Any of y'all got any special plans for thanksgiving?
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To all who celebrate Thanksgiving, have a wonderful day! Enjoy Palm Springs Thor!
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Happy Thanksgiving Thor, hope you have a lovely time with your friends and family.
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Happy Thanksgiving Thor and Lee!

Villiers my kids are going to help me cook this year and I'm hosting Thanksgiving at my house for the first time ever so it's bound to be stressful lol. I've already bought the beer and wine to get me through it!

Have a great holiday everyone
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Happy Thanksgiving Thor! Hope you have a great time with your loved ones.

And happy holiday everyone!
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Happy thanksgiving
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Remembering today the one and only Freddie Mercury. His towering talent, charisma, and voice make him truly INCOMPARABLE! Freddie, you are still loved and missed!