Some more info from Peter Hince:
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/jul/13/david-bowie-recorded-songs-with-queen-that-never-got-released
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The Fairy King
I Go Crazy?
Golden Salmon
It may be a good time to compile as much information as we can. From the link above:
[i]The revelation will be published in a forthcoming book on Bowie by Neil Cossar, a music historian. In one passage, Hince recalls: “They … performed some original songs they did together and also covers. They were just jamming in the studio and it all got recorded – [b]All the Young Dudes, All the Way from Memphis and various rock classics[/b].”[/i]
[i]Speaking to the Guardian on Wednesday, Hince said there was no question that the recordings exist.[/i]
[i]“There’s stuff with Freddie and David singing together – proper full-length rock’n’roll tracks … Raw, but good.”[/i]
[i]The material goes beyond their Cool Cat recording, which originally featured Bowie’s vocals, he added: “I was in the studio with them. It was all quite spontaneous. It was one of those rock’n’roll moments. They were just fooling around and played each other songs. Certainly, there were other tracks recorded with Queen and Bowie, and Freddie singing, which were never released. Pretty raw, but original material definitely. They were just incredibly spontaneous, good musicians.[/i]
[i]“I can categorically say I know that there were complete tracks, not mixed tracks, but fully formed songs that were done. Does it belong to the David Bowie estate or to Queen? That’s probably part of the reason these things have never come to light.”[/i]
Brian May last month:
[i][b]“Not all of what we did in those sessions has ever come to light, so there’s a thought.”[/b][/i] (duh)
[url=http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1350143/i-go-crazy-original-lyrics.aspx]We know about this as well:[/url]
[i]"I haven't really. Well, apart from another song by Bowie and Queen called [b]'I Don't Want To Be A Rolling Stone.'[/b] It's stunning. It was later re-worked to become 'I Go Crazy.' It's good as 'Under Pressure.' It would have been a great follow up single. "[/i]
To sum up:
[b]All the Young Dudes [/b]
[b]All the Way from Memphis [/b]
[b]Cool Cat [/b]
[b]Feel Like (?) [/b]
[b]I Don't Want To Be A Rolling Stone / I Go Crazy (?)[/b]
[b]Under Pressure [/b]
[b]Rock classics (various) [/b]
I wonder if Brian is hinting that they plan to do something with Bowie's recordings, there's probably a few things worth releasing. Perhaps they've been working on it for some time already (hence Roger's inspiration for Journey's End). I think the only time they might have gone back to these sessions before was when they released "Under Pressure (Rah Mix)", which features just a couple new snippets from Freddie and Bowie. Maybe they're digging deeper now.
[i]The revelation will be published in a forthcoming book on Bowie by Neil Cossar, a music historian. In one passage, Hince recalls: “They … performed some original songs they did together and also covers. They were just jamming in the studio and it all got recorded – [b]All the Young Dudes, All the Way from Memphis and various rock classics[/b].”[/i]
[i]Speaking to the Guardian on Wednesday, Hince said there was no question that the recordings exist.[/i]
[i]“There’s stuff with Freddie and David singing together – proper full-length rock’n’roll tracks … Raw, but good.”[/i]
[i]The material goes beyond their Cool Cat recording, which originally featured Bowie’s vocals, he added: “I was in the studio with them. It was all quite spontaneous. It was one of those rock’n’roll moments. They were just fooling around and played each other songs. Certainly, there were other tracks recorded with Queen and Bowie, and Freddie singing, which were never released. Pretty raw, but original material definitely. They were just incredibly spontaneous, good musicians.[/i]
[i]“I can categorically say I know that there were complete tracks, not mixed tracks, but fully formed songs that were done. Does it belong to the David Bowie estate or to Queen? That’s probably part of the reason these things have never come to light.”[/i]
Brian May last month:
[i][b]“Not all of what we did in those sessions has ever come to light, so there’s a thought.”[/b][/i] (duh)
[url=http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1350143/i-go-crazy-original-lyrics.aspx]We know about this as well:[/url]
[i]"I haven't really. Well, apart from another song by Bowie and Queen called [b]'I Don't Want To Be A Rolling Stone.'[/b] It's stunning. It was later re-worked to become 'I Go Crazy.' It's good as 'Under Pressure.' It would have been a great follow up single. "[/i]
To sum up:
[b]All the Young Dudes [/b]
[b]All the Way from Memphis [/b]
[b]Cool Cat [/b]
[b]Feel Like (?) [/b]
[b]I Don't Want To Be A Rolling Stone / I Go Crazy (?)[/b]
[b]Under Pressure [/b]
[b]Rock classics (various) [/b]
I wonder if Brian is hinting that they plan to do something with Bowie's recordings, there's probably a few things worth releasing. Perhaps they've been working on it for some time already (hence Roger's inspiration for Journey's End). I think the only time they might have gone back to these sessions before was when they released "Under Pressure (Rah Mix)", which features just a couple new snippets from Freddie and Bowie. Maybe they're digging deeper now.
MercurialFreddie
Wow, All The Young Dudes as a duet ? Well, it could sell.. and also could be perceived as a commemoration of the band and Bowie's collaboration. CD with tracks... add a couple of Brian's and Roger's warm words about David as a genius musician and you have a nice release. QPL, there's money for ya in it, lol.
soxtalon
I think there could a respectful release here. Many people especially in the music biz/general public would cry cash-in, on 2 dead stars...BUT I think there is quite a market for something like this.
If it's put out in raw form. No sprucing up for Single release, etc.
Just simply:
The Queen + David Bowie Sessions
Ahh I can dream, right?
If it's put out in raw form. No sprucing up for Single release, etc.
Just simply:
The Queen + David Bowie Sessions
Ahh I can dream, right?
RS_Protos
I really doubt it BM would allow just "sessions" to be released, we will get the "perfection" excuses again.
The Fairy King
[QUOTE] [b]soxtalon wrote:[/b]
I think there could a respectful release here. Many people especially in the music biz/general public would cry cash-in, on 2 dead stars...BUT I think there is quite a market for something like this.
If it's put out in raw form. No sprucing up for Single release, etc.
Just simply:
The Queen + David Bowie Sessions
Ahh I can dream, right?[/QUOTE]
The Queen+MJ thing bombed big time. I'm afraid another Queen + Bowie thing will probably suffer the same fate.
I think there could a respectful release here. Many people especially in the music biz/general public would cry cash-in, on 2 dead stars...BUT I think there is quite a market for something like this.
If it's put out in raw form. No sprucing up for Single release, etc.
Just simply:
The Queen + David Bowie Sessions
Ahh I can dream, right?[/QUOTE]
The Queen+MJ thing bombed big time. I'm afraid another Queen + Bowie thing will probably suffer the same fate.
Golden Salmon
[QUOTE] [b]The Fairy King wrote: [/b] The Queen+MJ thing bombed big time. I'm afraid another Queen + Bowie thing will probably suffer the same fate.[/QUOTE]
Quite frankly, they only released one song that, while it was a different version, it wasn't new at all for the fans nor it was a groundbreaking track and there was no hype behind it either. Beyond the musical quality, it's the kind of music that doesn't sell today inside a compilation of mostly old and known songs.
Quite frankly, they only released one song that, while it was a different version, it wasn't new at all for the fans nor it was a groundbreaking track and there was no hype behind it either. Beyond the musical quality, it's the kind of music that doesn't sell today inside a compilation of mostly old and known songs.
soxtalon
[QUOTE] [b]The Fairy King wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]soxtalon wrote:[/b]
I think there could a respectful release here. Many people especially in the music biz/general public would cry cash-in, on 2 dead stars...BUT I think there is quite a market for something like this.
If it's put out in raw form. No sprucing up for Single release, etc.
Just simply:
The Queen + David Bowie Sessions
Ahh I can dream, right?[/QUOTE]
The Queen+MJ thing bombed big time. I'm afraid another Queen + Bowie thing will probably suffer the same fate. [/QUOTE]
Maybe. Though a full album of tracks or a full EP that isn't just chucked onto a compilation and marketed as exactly what it is might be a better bet than 1 half baked remixed and messed with track on a compilation.
[QUOTE] [b]soxtalon wrote:[/b]
I think there could a respectful release here. Many people especially in the music biz/general public would cry cash-in, on 2 dead stars...BUT I think there is quite a market for something like this.
If it's put out in raw form. No sprucing up for Single release, etc.
Just simply:
The Queen + David Bowie Sessions
Ahh I can dream, right?[/QUOTE]
The Queen+MJ thing bombed big time. I'm afraid another Queen + Bowie thing will probably suffer the same fate. [/QUOTE]
Maybe. Though a full album of tracks or a full EP that isn't just chucked onto a compilation and marketed as exactly what it is might be a better bet than 1 half baked remixed and messed with track on a compilation.
The Fairy King
[QUOTE] [b]soxtalon wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]The Fairy King wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]soxtalon wrote:[/b]
I think there could a respectful release here. Many people especially in the music biz/general public would cry cash-in, on 2 dead stars...BUT I think there is quite a market for something like this.
If it's put out in raw form. No sprucing up for Single release, etc.
Just simply:
The Queen + David Bowie Sessions
Ahh I can dream, right?[/QUOTE]
The Queen+MJ thing bombed big time. I'm afraid another Queen + Bowie thing will probably suffer the same fate. [/QUOTE]
Maybe. Though a full album of tracks or a full EP that isn't just chucked onto a compilation and marketed as exactly what it is might be a better bet than 1 half baked remixed and messed with track on a compilation.
[/QUOTE]
It was also released seperately as a download and it hardly got airplay...actually i never heard it on the radio after they premiered it on BBC radio.
[QUOTE] [b]The Fairy King wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]soxtalon wrote:[/b]
I think there could a respectful release here. Many people especially in the music biz/general public would cry cash-in, on 2 dead stars...BUT I think there is quite a market for something like this.
If it's put out in raw form. No sprucing up for Single release, etc.
Just simply:
The Queen + David Bowie Sessions
Ahh I can dream, right?[/QUOTE]
The Queen+MJ thing bombed big time. I'm afraid another Queen + Bowie thing will probably suffer the same fate. [/QUOTE]
Maybe. Though a full album of tracks or a full EP that isn't just chucked onto a compilation and marketed as exactly what it is might be a better bet than 1 half baked remixed and messed with track on a compilation.
[/QUOTE]
It was also released seperately as a download and it hardly got airplay...actually i never heard it on the radio after they premiered it on BBC radio.
dysan
We knew they did more - It's nice to have some titles though. Strange nothing was dug up for previous releases like Ronson's Heaven & Hull postumous album (I guess the Tribute version of ATYD was a no brainer). Which also begs the question as to why that wasn't added to GH3. For Queen to absorb ATYD into their catalogue would be a sensible and pleasing move.
MackMantilla
I think we can expect a new compilation ala 'Queen Forever' including a new track by Queen + Bowie
Negative Creep
Yeah, but the tracks with Jackson WERE truly shit.
Golden Salmon
[QUOTE] [b]MackMantilla wrote:[/b]
I think we can expect a new compilation ala 'Queen Forever' including a new track by Queen + Bowie[/QUOTE]
[i]"You know, I think there are some Flash Gordon and Hot Space album tracks that haven't made it to a compilation album yet."[/i] - someone, somewhere at Queen Productions these days.
I think we can expect a new compilation ala 'Queen Forever' including a new track by Queen + Bowie[/QUOTE]
[i]"You know, I think there are some Flash Gordon and Hot Space album tracks that haven't made it to a compilation album yet."[/i] - someone, somewhere at Queen Productions these days.
Sebastian
There are bits of synth experimentation recorded by Ratty and Crystal which made it to some rough 'Flash Gordon' demos, but not to the album. Those could also be included. After all, that was Frederick's favourite film.