blueroom
Just received my corrected newspaper in the mail, anyone else got theirs?
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Srburns
Hi , for anybody interested in Amazon.fr the box set , the price is 87 eur. Maybe Amazon wants to finish their stock.
Michael Scapp
@blueroom, yes I got mine
user1
The box set is down to EUR 72 on amazon.es
http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/deal/deal-alert-queen-news-of-the-world-five-disc-super-deluxe-edition/
http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/deal/deal-alert-queen-news-of-the-world-five-disc-super-deluxe-edition/
user1
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]user1 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] It's this insight into the songwriting process that is the most fascinating part of the disc. [/QUOTE]
This is exactly what we do not get. There are no annotiations in the book regarding the recording process and we have no idea of how many different sources and takes the so called "raw" versions are cobbled together.
What we get is a faked insight, crafted 40 years later. That's basically trying to rewrite history and counterfeit recordings that never existed back in the days. It's really a shame what QP delivers and the term "raw sessions" is just a big lie.
I'd prefer having no "alternative" versions and waiting 40 more years for original historic recordings to this scam.[/QUOTE]
Then the door is right over there.
If you don't experience any joy from these raw takes of Get Down Make Love and Who Needs You, then maybe you should stop posting on a Queen forum since nothing will please you.
And it's all so easy to hide behind such a generic name, isn't it?
[/QUOTE]
I should stop posting on this forum because I call the box set what it is (an overpriced sub standard release) and I don't like these fake Frankenstein versions? Don't be ridiculous...
I am a fan of the band Queen, not a Queen Productions or Queen+ fan. And i'll never understand the diehards who eat any sh*t they get offered. In fact these creatures are just pitiful.
And your real name is real wizard? Hahaha...
[QUOTE] [b]user1 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] It's this insight into the songwriting process that is the most fascinating part of the disc. [/QUOTE]
This is exactly what we do not get. There are no annotiations in the book regarding the recording process and we have no idea of how many different sources and takes the so called "raw" versions are cobbled together.
What we get is a faked insight, crafted 40 years later. That's basically trying to rewrite history and counterfeit recordings that never existed back in the days. It's really a shame what QP delivers and the term "raw sessions" is just a big lie.
I'd prefer having no "alternative" versions and waiting 40 more years for original historic recordings to this scam.[/QUOTE]
Then the door is right over there.
If you don't experience any joy from these raw takes of Get Down Make Love and Who Needs You, then maybe you should stop posting on a Queen forum since nothing will please you.
And it's all so easy to hide behind such a generic name, isn't it?
[/QUOTE]
I should stop posting on this forum because I call the box set what it is (an overpriced sub standard release) and I don't like these fake Frankenstein versions? Don't be ridiculous...
I am a fan of the band Queen, not a Queen Productions or Queen+ fan. And i'll never understand the diehards who eat any sh*t they get offered. In fact these creatures are just pitiful.
And your real name is real wizard? Hahaha...
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]user1 wrote:[/b]
I should stop posting on this forum because I call the box set what it is (an overpriced sub standard release) and I don't like these fake Frankenstein versions? Don't be ridiculous...
I am a fan of the band Queen, not a Queen Productions or Queen+ fan. And i'll never understand the diehards who eat any sh*t they get offered. In fact these creatures are just pitiful.[/QUOTE]
The reality is - some bands open up the archives and some don't. Queen are somewhere in the middle on that spectrum. They've put out a couple hours of studio outtakes, and live releases from most of their tours. I share your feeling about the "Frankensteining", but not all of the stuff they've put out has been like this. Far from it.
Being critical is one thing, but if you refuse to see the positives in what does come out, then your anger and entitlement are going to be your worst enemy.
I've learned that people will complain no matter what bands put out. People even complained about the 27 disc Pink Floyd box set that contained virtually every morsel of previously unreleased pre-Dark Side audio and video.
Maybe you should get into King Crimson or Bruce Springsteen, as their box sets have been excellent. Your time would probably be better spent there than complaining here.
Or if you collect Queen, maybe you could contribute something of value to the forum? An uncirculated recording from 1977 ? Some old photos nobody has seen? If you don't like what the band is putting out, then why not create a more positive environment by making things a bit more interesting here?
I should stop posting on this forum because I call the box set what it is (an overpriced sub standard release) and I don't like these fake Frankenstein versions? Don't be ridiculous...
I am a fan of the band Queen, not a Queen Productions or Queen+ fan. And i'll never understand the diehards who eat any sh*t they get offered. In fact these creatures are just pitiful.[/QUOTE]
The reality is - some bands open up the archives and some don't. Queen are somewhere in the middle on that spectrum. They've put out a couple hours of studio outtakes, and live releases from most of their tours. I share your feeling about the "Frankensteining", but not all of the stuff they've put out has been like this. Far from it.
Being critical is one thing, but if you refuse to see the positives in what does come out, then your anger and entitlement are going to be your worst enemy.
I've learned that people will complain no matter what bands put out. People even complained about the 27 disc Pink Floyd box set that contained virtually every morsel of previously unreleased pre-Dark Side audio and video.
Maybe you should get into King Crimson or Bruce Springsteen, as their box sets have been excellent. Your time would probably be better spent there than complaining here.
Or if you collect Queen, maybe you could contribute something of value to the forum? An uncirculated recording from 1977 ? Some old photos nobody has seen? If you don't like what the band is putting out, then why not create a more positive environment by making things a bit more interesting here?
user1
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
The reality is - some bands open up the archives and some don't. Queen are somewhere in the middle on that spectrum. They've put out a couple hours of studio outtakes, and live releases from most of their tours. I share your feeling about the "Frankensteining", [b]but not all of the stuff they've put out has been like this.[/b] Far from it.[/QUOTE]
Never said that would be the case!
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]Being critical is one thing, but if you refuse to see the positives in what does come out, then your anger and entitlement are going to be your worst enemy.[/QUOTE]
I only referred to this one title QP messed up and I criticize the release because I am a fan of the band. Because I expect them to do better. Anything else you're trying to read in my posting only happened in your mind.
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]I've learned that people will complain no matter what bands put out. People even complained about the 27 disc Pink Floyd box set that contained virtually every morsel of previously unreleased pre-Dark Side audio and video.[/QUOTE]
I am not "people".
And just fyi: I bought the PF box set on release day and I still enjoy it despite its flaws and omissions - something I cannot state regarding the NOTW set.
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]Maybe you should get into King Crimson or Bruce Springsteen, as their box sets have been excellent. Your time would probably be better spent there than complaining here.[/QUOTE]
Not a fan. Wouldn't enjoy expanded releases no matter jow well they're made and how complete they are.
Btw: you're not the one to decide where I spend my time.
Fun fact: Obviously you've spent A LOT more of your lifetime in this forum than me.
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]Or if you collect Queen, maybe you could contribute something of value to the forum? An uncirculated recording from 1977 ? Some old photos nobody has seen? If you don't like what the band is putting out, then why not create a more positive environment by making things a bit more interesting here?
[/QUOTE]
I warned other fans not to buy this set, at least not at full price and gave reasons for it, wrote some annotations to the AAA vinyl in comparison to the box set vinyl in the other thread and informed about today's markdown in case some members want to grab it.
Not useful enough for you?
- I dont care.
The reality is - some bands open up the archives and some don't. Queen are somewhere in the middle on that spectrum. They've put out a couple hours of studio outtakes, and live releases from most of their tours. I share your feeling about the "Frankensteining", [b]but not all of the stuff they've put out has been like this.[/b] Far from it.[/QUOTE]
Never said that would be the case!
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]Being critical is one thing, but if you refuse to see the positives in what does come out, then your anger and entitlement are going to be your worst enemy.[/QUOTE]
I only referred to this one title QP messed up and I criticize the release because I am a fan of the band. Because I expect them to do better. Anything else you're trying to read in my posting only happened in your mind.
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]I've learned that people will complain no matter what bands put out. People even complained about the 27 disc Pink Floyd box set that contained virtually every morsel of previously unreleased pre-Dark Side audio and video.[/QUOTE]
I am not "people".
And just fyi: I bought the PF box set on release day and I still enjoy it despite its flaws and omissions - something I cannot state regarding the NOTW set.
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]Maybe you should get into King Crimson or Bruce Springsteen, as their box sets have been excellent. Your time would probably be better spent there than complaining here.[/QUOTE]
Not a fan. Wouldn't enjoy expanded releases no matter jow well they're made and how complete they are.
Btw: you're not the one to decide where I spend my time.
Fun fact: Obviously you've spent A LOT more of your lifetime in this forum than me.
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]Or if you collect Queen, maybe you could contribute something of value to the forum? An uncirculated recording from 1977 ? Some old photos nobody has seen? If you don't like what the band is putting out, then why not create a more positive environment by making things a bit more interesting here?
[/QUOTE]
I warned other fans not to buy this set, at least not at full price and gave reasons for it, wrote some annotations to the AAA vinyl in comparison to the box set vinyl in the other thread and informed about today's markdown in case some members want to grab it.
Not useful enough for you?
- I dont care.
The Real Wizard
Man, that's a whole lot of gaslighting, revisionist history, and straw manning. Not worth my time.
Whatever gets you through the day.
Whatever gets you through the day.
Saint Jiub
RW is especially harsh on user1, considering that RW has not bought this NotW box set. Perhaps RW could contribute a less holier than thou attitute to this forum.
With exception of the Rainbow box set, the complaints about Queen box sets are mostly valid.
The Hammersmith, On Air, and NotW box sets are disappointments and very overpriced.
With exception of the Rainbow box set, the complaints about Queen box sets are mostly valid.
The Hammersmith, On Air, and NotW box sets are disappointments and very overpriced.
Dr Magus
[QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]
RW is especially harsh on user1, considering that RW has not bought this NotW box set. Perhaps RW could contribute a less holier than thou attitute to this forum.
With exception of the Rainbow box set, the complaints about Queen box sets are mostly valid.
The Hammersmith, On Air, and NotW box sets are disappointments and very overpriced.[/QUOTE]
Bang on.
RW is especially harsh on user1, considering that RW has not bought this NotW box set. Perhaps RW could contribute a less holier than thou attitute to this forum.
With exception of the Rainbow box set, the complaints about Queen box sets are mostly valid.
The Hammersmith, On Air, and NotW box sets are disappointments and very overpriced.[/QUOTE]
Bang on.
user1
[QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]With exception of the Rainbow box set, the complaints about Queen box sets are mostly valid.
The Hammersmith, On Air, and NotW box sets are disappointments and very overpriced.[/QUOTE]
As you're bringing them up: I tend to agree :)
The Hammersmith, On Air, and NotW box sets are disappointments and very overpriced.[/QUOTE]
As you're bringing them up: I tend to agree :)
user1
Now down to EUR 64:
https://www.amazon.es/News-World-Anniversario-S%C3%BAper-Deluxe/dp/B0758ZN38H
https://www.amazon.es/News-World-Anniversario-S%C3%BAper-Deluxe/dp/B0758ZN38H
Saint Jiub
[QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Barry Durex wrote:[/b]
^ So ultimately a confirmation of disc wastage, as nothing really new to speak of unless you like unique crowd fade ins and outs and DJ's of course.[/QUOTE]
Three out of five disks are wastage (CD album, vinyl album, and this disk). no wonder QPL did not separately release, a la carte, the alternative NOTW disk and American Dream DVD. Who, beyond completionists, would have bought this over priced box set if a la carte items were available.
Given that only two disks are worthwhile, this box set is really only worth buying if it is less than $50 ... anything higher was/is highway robbery. The $145 price tag at QOL is ludicrous.
In comparison, the Rainbow box set (Queen's only excellent box set) has three worthwhile disks and cost me less than $55 when I pre-ordered it in mid-2014.
[/QUOTE]
... ^
64 euro for the box set = $70
Still at least $20 too expensive than the maximum $50 that I might be willing to pay.
... and of course that exludes any tariffs Trump might have imposed to make America great again.
[QUOTE] [b]Barry Durex wrote:[/b]
^ So ultimately a confirmation of disc wastage, as nothing really new to speak of unless you like unique crowd fade ins and outs and DJ's of course.[/QUOTE]
Three out of five disks are wastage (CD album, vinyl album, and this disk). no wonder QPL did not separately release, a la carte, the alternative NOTW disk and American Dream DVD. Who, beyond completionists, would have bought this over priced box set if a la carte items were available.
Given that only two disks are worthwhile, this box set is really only worth buying if it is less than $50 ... anything higher was/is highway robbery. The $145 price tag at QOL is ludicrous.
In comparison, the Rainbow box set (Queen's only excellent box set) has three worthwhile disks and cost me less than $55 when I pre-ordered it in mid-2014.
[/QUOTE]
... ^
64 euro for the box set = $70
Still at least $20 too expensive than the maximum $50 that I might be willing to pay.
... and of course that exludes any tariffs Trump might have imposed to make America great again.
user1
The box set is down to £60 on amazon.co.uk:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/News-World-40th-Anniversary-Queen/dp/B0758ZN38H/
https://www.amazon.co.uk/News-World-40th-Anniversary-Queen/dp/B0758ZN38H/
Dr Magus
That is a tempting price.
I just wish they'd keep the vinyl separate. It's a bit annoying the way bands include a 12" piece of plastic then charge an extra 50+ quid.
I just wish they'd keep the vinyl separate. It's a bit annoying the way bands include a 12" piece of plastic then charge an extra 50+ quid.