Would it was better this way for Queen?

[QUOTE] [b]Rich Tea wrote:[/b]

Day dop - sorry to disagree but I was lucky enough to see QUEEN many times from 77 to 86 and since then QPR & QAL and as far as I'm concerned Adam Lambert with QUEEN is a superb show not a reproduction. I have a grown up family and we are all going this year to see the Quuen + Adam Lambert show for different reasons. Me & the Wife its Queen but for my daughters its Adam I am so happy that this is happening and we can share it lets be honest Brian & Roger don't need to do it they are doing it because THEY WANT TO.

I find myself getting frustrated by people on here knocking Queen + Adam as a fan since 74 I am so excited that I can still see my favourite band play live. Am I the only person who has actually accepted that Freddie has passed away? I don't think so the UK leg of this years tour sold out within a few hours so the public has spoken............

Watch the abuse start!!!!![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE] [b]Rich Tea wrote:[/b]

Day dop - sorry to disagree but I was lucky enough to see QUEEN many times from 77 to 86 and since then QPR & QAL and as far as I'm concerned Adam Lambert with QUEEN is a superb show not a reproduction. I have a grown up family and we are all going this year to see the Quuen + Adam Lambert show for different reasons. Me & the Wife its Queen but for my daughters its Adam I am so happy that this is happening and we can share it lets be honest Brian & Roger don't need to do it they are doing it because THEY WANT TO.

I find myself getting frustrated by people on here knocking Queen + Adam as a fan since 74 I am so excited that I can still see my favourite band play live. Am I the only person who has actually accepted that Freddie has passed away? I don't think so the UK leg of this years tour sold out within a few hours so the public has spoken............

Watch the abuse start!!!!![/QUOTE]

No abuse needed. It seems clear that you are just stating that Q+AL is, for you and others, an enjoyable experience and not as an undisputed fact that applies to everybody.. Nothing wrong with that.

For some others on here who, like yourself, also have a long history as Queen fans since the early 70's (myself 14 shows with Freddie, 1 PR and 1 AL) the whole spectacle is an embarrassing abomination.

As others on here have opined, I regard the show as little more than an expensive Queen karaoke night out. For me Freddie Mercury was so powerful in presence and melodic talent that he was the very essence of the band. Neither am I very fond of old men replaying former glories. It just ultimately disappoints me.

If you have fun go for it.

[QUOTE] [b]Rich Tea wrote:[/b]

Day dop - sorry to disagree but I was lucky enough to see QUEEN many times from 77 to 86 and since then QPR & QAL and as far as I'm concerned Adam Lambert with QUEEN is a superb show not a reproduction. I have a grown up family and we are all going this year to see the Quuen + Adam Lambert show for different reasons. Me & the Wife its Queen but for my daughters its Adam I am so happy that this is happening and we can share it lets be honest Brian & Roger don't need to do it they are doing it because THEY WANT TO.

I find myself getting frustrated by people on here knocking Queen + Adam as a fan since 74 I am so excited that I can still see my favourite band play live. Am I the only person who has actually accepted that Freddie has passed away? I don't think so the UK leg of this years tour sold out within a few hours so the public has spoken............

Watch the abuse start!!!!![/QUOTE]

Lambert isn't with Queen. He's a singer for Queen+.

Queen was Freddie Mercury, Brian May, Roger Taylor and John Deacon.
Queen+ is Brian May, Roger Taylor, and whoever is filling in on bass and as a singer.

Queen and Queen+ are not the same band. Or are you completely disregarding Freddie Mercury and John Deacon?

If it's not a (poor) reproduction, how comes they're doing Queen songs that were written decades ago? Where's their new material? (And no, promoting the odd naff Lambert song here and there doesn't really count. We're talking about entire shows here).

May and Taylor also WANTED to and did do a tacky Pepsi commercial, they WANTED to and did collaborate with Robbie Williams. May WANTED to did collaborate with Dappy, May and Taylor also WANTED to and did collaborate with FIVE, and WANTED to and did go on American Idol. They WANTED to and did give the go ahead for the Wyclef Jean AOBTD abomination and stuck it on Greatest Hits III.You get the picture. Generally, it's tacky crap.

You're mentioning their names like an appeal to authority, but that doesn't make them immune from criticism, or that everyone is going to like it, nor should anyone have to keep their opinions to themsevles.
Over the last couple of decades, they've barely done anything artistic-wise that's worthy of any kind of praise from me. Sure, they play their instruments well still, but that's about it.

You do understand that just because someone doesn't rate Lambert that doesn't mean that they haven't accepted Freddie has passed away, right? That's a straw man argument you've made there.

Also, sales do not necessarily equate to artistic merit - certainly not as far as I'm concerned anyway. Justin Bieber can sell out shows too. And Queen+ FIVE went to number one with their version of We Will Rock You. Again, tacky crap. I include the Queen+ Lambert collaboration as tacky crap too.

What's "Watch the abuse start!!!!!" all about??? Making an assumption such as that is not a great way to conduct yourself during an exchange, and if anything, it could encourage someone to become abusive. And in case you consider it so, pointing that out is not "abuse" either).

I have accepted FM's passing but I can't accept the Queen+AL shows, for me it's embarrassing, been to one show few years ago.
This is just me and I'm not saying everyone should feel that way, if you like it that's great.
Call me "purist", call me whatever you like......
I've seen little respect from BM and RT to the purist fans once they got AL, they don't have to, making lots of money.

[QUOTE] [b]splicksplack wrote:[/b]As others on here have opined, I regard the show as little more than an expensive Queen karaoke night out. [/QUOTE]

That's a good description.

Day dop I did not mean personal abuse and your post was full of the kind of abuse I mean't directed towards Queen + Adam Lambert and I respect your opinion and that of others but I don't agree with it that is the point I was making. At the end of the day the point I was making was that the only people posting here seem to be those in the Queen without Freddie and John are not valid camp I believe Brian and Roger are valid and the shows are valid I'm in my late 50's and I have enjoyed the Queen + shows very very much and hope they continue for a long time. As I've said before I am just happy I can share these experiences with the children who were not even born when Freddie was alive.

Right I will get my coat lol :-)

[QUOTE] [b]Rich Tea wrote:[/b]

Day dop I did not mean personal abuse and your post was full of the kind of abuse I mean't directed towards Queen + Adam Lambert and I respect your opinion and that of others but I don't agree with it that is the point I was making. At the end of the day the point I was making was that the only people posting here seem to be those in the Queen without Freddie and John are not valid camp I believe Brian and Roger are valid and the shows are valid I'm in my late 50's and I have enjoyed the Queen + shows very very much and hope they continue for a long time. As I've said before I am just happy I can share these experiences with the children who were not even born when Freddie was alive.

Right I will get my coat lol :-)[/QUOTE]


What do you consider to be abuse?

This? From my first comment? >>> "But this way, It might be seen as innovative, and It'd be a hell of a lot better than what they currently work with."

Or saying that I think the Queen+Lambert shows, along with their collaborations with Dappy, Five and Lambert etc are "tacky"?

Those are the worst things I said. So I think you're misusing the word "abuse". It's not abuse at all. It's my genuine opinion. And even if I said worse, who is being abused here? I very much doubt May, Taylor, Five, Dappy, Wyclef Jean or Lambert bother reading this forum
I don't think May and Taylor have done anything over the last 20 years that is worthy of artistic praise (aside from play their instruments well). Quite the opposite in fact. And that includes what they've done with Lambert. I find it to be cringeworthy.


Btw, you're not another account belonging to Vocal Harmony, are you? I recall that account saying she was in her late 50s. And it seems odd both accounts sound very much the same.

I am not a she and I have nothing to do with Vocal Harmony my name is Kevin I am 54 years old and if you search the internet you will find out more about me just look for my Bingley Hall 78 review its out there somewhere..........

Abuse was the wrong word I apologise criticism would be more appropriate as I said you are entitled to your opinion as much as I am entitled to disagree. I'm sorry you didn't enjoy the Queen + show or shows you have been to your experience must have been very different to mine. As I've said before first saw Queen at Bingley Hall Stafford in May 78 and despite the very obvious changes 40 years on I'm still enjoying the shows and long may it continue.

[QUOTE] [b]earwig wrote:[/b]

I just think a small name change would've worked...
May, Taylor & Rodgers
May, Taylor & Lambert
Drop 'Queen' and everyone's happy?
[/QUOTE]

Smile?

[QUOTE] [b]Rich Tea wrote:[/b]

I am not a she and I have nothing to do with Vocal Harmony my name is Kevin I am 54 years old and if you search the internet you will find out more about me just look for my Bingley Hall 78 review its out there somewhere..........

Abuse was the wrong word I apologise criticism would be more appropriate as I said you are entitled to your opinion as much as I am entitled to disagree. I'm sorry you didn't enjoy the Queen + show or shows you have been to your experience must have been very different to mine. As I've said before first saw Queen at Bingley Hall Stafford in May 78 and despite the very obvious changes 40 years on I'm still enjoying the shows and long may it continue.[/QUOTE]

So you're now saying (copy / paste) > "I am not a she and I have nothing to do with Vocal Harmony my name is Kevin I am 54 years old"

And yet you wrote on your previous comment (copy / paste) > "I believe Brian and Roger are valid and the shows are valid I'm in my late 50's and I have enjoyed the Queen + shows very very much".

54 isn't "late 50's".

This isn't the first time something like this has happened with Vocal Harmony either. The last time another account sounding very much the same started arguing with me and then ended up deleting the comments.

lol You really are an idiot just read my post you only have to google a couple of things to find out my full identity not that it really matters lol I have never been and never will be a girl............

Shame you operate this way attacking those who disagree with your crass remarks and then trying to justify it by making accusations that someone is a troll or fake account I may not post much on here but I've been a member for well over 10 years.

I suggest we move on from this now although I'm sure you would like the last word so go on fill your boots.......

[QUOTE] [b]Rich Tea wrote:[/b]

lol You really are an idiot just read my post you only have to google a couple of things to find out my full identity not that it really matters lol I have never been and never will be a girl............[/QUOTE]

I'm not "attacking" you. Where do you think I've written anything that's an attack?

And Googling some name proves nothing. I could be Googling anyone.

[QUOTE] [b]Rich Tea wrote:[/b]Shame you operate this way attacking those who disagree with your crass remarks and then trying to justify it by making accusations that someone is a troll or fake account I may not post much on here but I've been a member for well over 10 years.[/QUOTE]

When you say "shame you operate this way", what exactly do you mean? It's a shame that I observe and comment on what I see?

And how is me commenting on what I see me trying to justify "crass remarks", speaking of which, what "crass remarks" are you speaking of?

You said you're in your "late 50s", and then later on you "I am 54 years old"

Obviously 54 is not late 50s at all. Surely you reliase the difference?

I also made an observation regarding "Vocal Harmony" and how this has happened before.

[QUOTE] [b]Rich Tea wrote:[/b]
I suggest we move on from this now although I'm sure you would like the last word so go on fill your boots......[/QUOTE]

The issue with your suggestion here is that you've said that after you've come out with some questionable things. If you wanted to move on, you could've left it at that. As for me, I have no issue addressing what you say.

And I don't need your permission to fill my boots. I don't see why it has to be the last word either. Unless you're planning to do a runner rather than addressing what I've said?

fight fight!

Ha Ha its ok Dr Magnus I think Day dop has filled his boots big style. Day dop exactly what do you want me to address that I haven't already?