This event has got me thinking. Through the years most people on here, me included, bought into the line that the band and particularly Brian only wished the fans to here what amounted to perfection and therefore guarded what may be in the vaults closely giving little hope of any of us ever hearing much more than is already in circulation.
Disc two of the NOTW set seems to be a softening of this attitude, but the Inuendo sessions has cast new light on the subject, with Brian aparently saying that anything could be played. Could this policy lead to some very interesting releases in the future.
It must surely be obvious to all concerned that if fifty people were willing to pay a huge price for the privilege then there must be a market for a lengthy DVD or Blu Ray release of at least the biggest selling studio albums with a kind of classic albums format but going deeper into the sessions, mixes and work done for each album. I wouldn't expect these to be cheap, but the potential sales would far outstrip what the Inuendo event made.
I guess what in saying is what's the difference between an exclusive event and a commercially released version of the event
Adam Baboolal · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Sunshine wrote:[/b]
I also didn't like the technical questions. I really don't give a shit what type of microphone Freddie was using or what kind of mixing desk was used.
It is about the music.
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I definitely agree, the music is the most important thing at the heart of a recording. However, sometimes you find that it can be very important, e.g. Brian has always been mentioned how the first album's drum sound wasn't to their liking and hurts the overall sound of the band.
So, at an event like this you must expect people like myself that are curious about the process. And while the music takes precedence, the techniques and technology that captured these performances is also important. We all have our priorities in these kinds of events!
Sunshine · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Adam Baboolal wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Sunshine wrote:[/b]
I also didn't like the technical questions. I really don't give a shit what type of microphone Freddie was using or what kind of mixing desk was used.
It is about the music.
[/QUOTE]
I definitely agree, the music is the most important thing at the heart of a recording. However, sometimes you find that it can be very important, e.g. Brian has always been mentioned how the first album's drum sound wasn't to their liking and hurts the overall sound of the band.
So, at an event like this you must expect people like myself that are curious about the process. And while the music takes precedence, the techniques and technology that captured these performances is also important. We all have our priorities in these kinds of events![/QUOTE]
Of course, this information is nice to know.
But there were some of these geeks who went so much into detail that it became boring for the rest.
Does it really add anything to know what kind of guitar cable Brian used?
Sunshine · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]
This event has got me thinking. Through the years most people on here, me included, bought into the line that the band and particularly Brian only wished the fans to here what amounted to perfection and therefore guarded what may be in the vaults closely giving little hope of any of us ever hearing much more than is already in circulation.
Disc two of the NOTW set seems to be a softening of this attitude, but the Inuendo sessions has cast new light on the subject, with Brian aparently saying that anything could be played. Could this policy lead to some very interesting releases in the future.
It must surely be obvious to all concerned that if fifty people were willing to pay a huge price for the privilege then there must be a market for a lengthy DVD or Blu Ray release of at least the biggest selling studio albums with a kind of classic albums format but going deeper into the sessions, mixes and work done for each album. I wouldn't expect these to be cheap, but the potential sales would far outstrip what the Inuendo event made.
I guess what in saying is what's the difference between an exclusive event and a commercially released version of the event
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Brian agreed to this event under the condition that nothing would be recorded. Justin stated that Brian gave carte blanche, Justin could play anything and both Justin and Noel were speaking openly, also how they experienced the sessions with the good (amazing musical performances and very cheerful Freddie), bad (the neurotic perfection of Brian May that caused very long days) and ugly (the quibbling and Freddie's detoriation)
I don't think there is a market for these kind of releases. It also was mentioned during last saturday's session because somebody asked the same. He said "what about The Beatles' Anthology series?". And Justin answered very spot on: yes but they had unreleased tracks.
Plus that was the 90's. No one is buying a CD these days anymore. Where can you use a CD these days? It is so old fashioned.
We need to accept that it will be very unlikely that stuff like this sees the light of day outside a protected area.
The 350 GBP was hefty yes, but SO much worth it. I am still 'high' from it and like someone here said, it was so much to comprehend what we saw and heard, i still need to process everything. And i don't thing 350 GBP is a lot of money for an experience that you get once in your life.
There was even a guy flying in from Argentina for the weekend while his wife was about to give birth. I mean, that is how much it meant for people to be part of it.
Togg · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Sunshine wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Adam Baboolal wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Sunshine wrote:[/b]
I also didn't like the technical questions. I really don't give a shit what type of microphone Freddie was using or what kind of mixing desk was used.
It is about the music.
[/QUOTE]
I definitely agree, the music is the most important thing at the heart of a recording. However, sometimes you find that it can be very important, e.g. Brian has always been mentioned how the first album's drum sound wasn't to their liking and hurts the overall sound of the band.
So, at an event like this you must expect people like myself that are curious about the process. And while the music takes precedence, the techniques and technology that captured these performances is also important. We all have our priorities in these kinds of events![/QUOTE]
Of course, this information is nice to know.
But there were some of these geeks who went so much into detail that it became boring for the rest.
Does it really add anything to know what kind of guitar cable Brian used?
[/QUOTE]
Actually to a lot of people it is, we go to great lengths to find this stuff out as a lot of it does make a difference, albeit small, but if your going to try to capture similar sounds you want the starting point to be the same in terms of equipment, I am completely obsessed with the sound of Rogers kit and Brian's guitar over the years, it is why I got into Queen in the first place so the more I can find out about the equipment used in studios and live the better. And yes I do generally buy it afterwards to try to capture some of that tone for myself
So for me the tech stuff is just as important and in fact more interesting than who wrote what or what shirt Freddie wore etc
cmsdrums · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Sunshine wrote:[/b]
@cmsdrums:
No they are not only for the musicians and gear geeks.
Its about the music.[/QUOTE]
Apologies - I didn't perhaps word my comment very well. Whilst I didn't say 'only', I meant to imply that these type of event would likely be of really great interest to musicians, but absolutely should in no way be limited to any specific crowd....those that really have an in depth knowledge, understanding and appreciation of Queen's music would totally also love it.
I more meant to back up Seb's comment, and wanted to reiterate my view that some fans such as those that hound John outside his house for autographs which then go straight on Ebay, or those who have a morbid fascination into how and when Freddie became ill, would be the sort of people I'd hate to have at that type of event, asking irrelevant, annoying and out of place questions.
brians wig · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Sunshine wrote:[/b]
I don't think there is a market for these kind of releases. It also was mentioned during last saturday's session because somebody asked the same. He said "what about The Beatles' Anthology series?". And Justin answered very spot on: yes but they had unreleased tracks.
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I think D2 of the forthcoming NOTW set proves without shadow of a doubt that they have unreleased tracks.
Also, just look at how many other bands are releasing sets with demos etc in.
QPL are so full of shit and I'm sick of it.
RS_Protos · Member since
"full of shit" is right, it's all about milking it as much as possible with the least amount of product
MrFunster · Member since
Wait and see. More unreleased material will come out. If you don t ask for it will come to you.
Of course queen will ask money for it. What would you do if you had perfectionist Freddie Mercury as lead singer and Brian May as perfectionist guitarist plus powerhouse Roger Taylor in one band.
If Queen was a voluntarily rock band for a free party. Then you have made your point.
Golden Salmon · Member since
I'm sure they'll keep on releasing more material, but it kinda sucks that they're only doing it once a year, favoring live over studio recordings and seemingly waiting for the 40th anniversary of everything. Does this mean we only stand a chance of listening to Innuendo-era material 14 years from now?
Then again, that sounds like a plan...
Vocal harmony · Member since
In response to Sunshine I am fully aware of the conditions placed on this event by Brian and QP in general. The chance of being in the studio with the masters being discussed in depth is obviously going to attract in depth questions and discussion about how things were recorded and what equipment was used.
The events subject was geared to that sort of discussion. Anyone who was there was obviously in a position to ask what they want, but the idea of someone saying that the technical stuff was boring and they weren't interested in the in depth questions does raise the question were they at the right event?
As far as the CD market being non existent because its 2017, if there was no hope of sales why have the band bothered to release anything in the last few years, including the new NOTW boxset
Also as I pointed out in my earlier post Brian giving the all clear to allow the playing of anything on the Innuendo masters does seem to indicate a more fan friendly approach to letting secrets out the bag.
Nodger Maylor · Member since
I love the excuse given re a lack of a Queen anthology - that's been threatened for years.
The NOTW boxset is NOT testing the waters - if they'd bothered to have 2 CDs worth of unreleased stuff, I wouldn't have batted an eyelid at forking out £100 for it. Frankstein-esque "alternate" versions don't cut it for me. I'll wait to download it illegally, like most Queen fans, I imagine. Talk about a missed opportunity - well done, Queen Productions.
Nodger Maylor · Member since
So nobody asked if Freddie dressed to the left or the right? Very disappointed.
Sebastian · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Sunshine wrote:[/b]
But there were some of these geeks who went so much into detail that it became boring for the rest.
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So? There are some of these 'geeks' who go into so much detail about how Frederick tucked his shirt or whether Brian liked crumpets, and other people can get bored by that too. Equality and diversity!
[QUOTE] [b]Togg wrote:[/b]
Actually to a lot of people it is, we go to great lengths to find this stuff out as a lot of it does make a difference, albeit small[/QUOTE]
Defo - and if you've got the chance to ask those who were actually there, why not? You can always get hold of somebody else if you want to know how many times a day Fred went to the loo.
[QUOTE] [b]cmsdrums wrote:[/b]
I more meant to back up Seb's comment, and wanted to reiterate my view that some fans such as those that hound John outside his house for autographs which then go straight on Ebay, or those who have a morbid fascination into how and when Freddie became ill, would be the sort of people I'd hate to have at that type of event, asking irrelevant, annoying and out of place questions. [/QUOTE]
Yeah - you got my point. More 'what sort of guitar lead did Brian use?' and less 'did you ever see John puking?' at last!
Sunshine · Member since
Maybe also interesting are the start dates of the songs.
Innuendo started as the first track in early november 1989.
I'm Going Slightly mad started on December 4th 1989
The Show Must Go On started on March 22nd 1990, last sessions were in September 1990
These are the Days Of our Lives: I don't know, i didnt see any dates
