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ForFreddie: As far as I know, no one in his life has said that. I trust Phoebe over Barbara any day.

I really don't know why people struggle with the face that Freddie was a proud gay man. I think it's wonderful
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I wish I could remember the names of the people who were speaking, but, they sounded like they knew Freddie personally/intimately....one person being interviewed was Peter, I do believe.

In any case, what does it matter, if it was said to dispell the gay angle, well, everyone pretty much already knew Freddie was gay and, most people didn't care.
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Peter stated specifically that Freddie did not sleep with Barbara. Come on, stop spreading this rumor.
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Thor and Lee,

In any pictures I have seen taken from the grounds of Garden Lodge, it looks very private and lovely. When you see photos of the area taken from outside the fence, it looks like there are quite a few taller buildings around Freddie's home. It is hard to get a sense of how close those buildings actually are, never having been there before. Did it feel as private and secluded as it looked, or were there sections of the yard where you felt like you could be in view of someone from a nearby home who happened to be looking out an upper story window?

This might have been asked before, but what did you think of Freddie's koi pond?
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Sweetandtenderhooligan.....I'm not spreading a rumour, I'm repeating what I heard a person say while being interviewed on a story about Freddie.....if anyone is spreading around something that isn't true, it's that person....and, he wasn't the only one.... did you ever see that piece that aired on REELZ, about Freddie? THEY are saying it, not me, I just repeated it.

Anyway, so what if he did? Is anyone going to think any less of him? Does it really matter now?
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Hey All,

I am going for another intense book meeting with Lee tomorrow until next Tues.
Thankfully, it is scheduled to rain in Palm Springs, so there will be no distractions by warm, beautiful weather...LOL
I've sent another 10 or so, queries out. Still waiting to hear from them.
We were accepted by Page Publishers recently, but with their unbelievably "perfect deal", everything pointed toward Vanity Press and they wanted money just to sign the contract and then extra charges for every service. They denied that, of course, and are still sending me "come-on" messages despite our refusal.
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Rainbow, as much as I enjoy Queen, I so enjoy the calmer moments. Either at the piano, or in a close up video.
I seem to be drawn to the slower numbers. I don’t want to call them ballads, but just “kicked back”. Would one call We Are The Champions a ballad?
I don’t care what they call it I like that style of his work. I also enjoyed his solo album. His disco “stylings” were very fun to me. Having more of a
theatre/crooning kind of voice, myself, I could NEVER pull off a disco number like he could so naturally.

Freddie had several taller properties around Garden Lodge. As I recal, and I could be wrong, I don’t remember being able to see any neighbors windows, which meant THEY couldn’t see the garden. Freddie once mentioned that he knew there were visual intruders that could see everyone coming and going from the street entrance.
Diana Rigg lived across the street. Not sure if he told us that in 86 or 91, but it definitely when we were at the house.
The wall around the property was brick, maybe 7 feet tall? I LOVED how the door would open bekoning you in. I went to look at the house the last time I was London YIKES 2007. I’m due a trip. Mary had added additional height to the wall, to prevent intruders. I don’t doubt that it can be a title difficult for her with so many people looking for the house. Each brick of the front wall was turned into a tribute for all that passed by. They would speak of their love for him, or how sad they were at his lost, etc. I have a shot fo it that will be in the book. It’s one of few that we are using that has been seen, but this one is my photo. There’s a photo with the same shot as mine on the internet. I heard that Mary had the notes removed from the bricks. Did someone here tell us that?
The Coi pond. STUNNING. I fed them with Freddie when we were there the last time. There IS a shot of me at the pond solo. At that point of the morning we left we were taking some photos and Freddie hadn’t yet decided that he wanted to be in the photos. That story I have told, and it’s in the book.

Hi Koala - Welcome to our little world here. Don’t be a stranger. We’d love to hear from you, and if it’s a question we’ve already answered, there ARE some stories worth repeating for sure.

FreddieDarling - THANKS for the extended video of the al fresco soirée. I didn’t know it existed. Can’t wait to see it, and then I’ll supply a narrative. LOL

Oh well. That’s it for February 12, 2019.

Did I miss anyone’s question? Please let me know.

‘Til tomorrow.
Ciao
XO.
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HaHa Lee,
We must have been typing at the same time!
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Welcome Koala! It's been great to see so many new people here.

Lee, you missed my question, and I'll be the first to admit it wasn't anything important and it has been partially discussed here before, but I'm still curious. Freddie was so powerful on stage, so larger-than-life that it took me a while to realize he wasn't tall, and he was actually built very thin. In the GL tape of the al fresco dining, both you and Thor look very tall, well over six feet. Are you as tall as you appear in the video? Freddie is definitely looking up at both of you.

I often wonder if Freddie would have been able to enjoy the same privacy he had at Garden Lodge today. As much as the press hounded him, I sometimes think it is even worse now. I've often wondered about the surrounding buildings that Rainbow mentioned. I also wonder about drones invading the privacy. I'm glad it was a beloved retreat for him then.

One more question. Did you guys ever meet Terry Giddings? He seemed so loyal to Freddie then, and almost another member of his "family". I've seen him interviewed in some of the documentaries and he seems like he really loved Freddie. Freddie seemed to have the kind of personality that drew people in and inspired loyalty.
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The person who claimed he fucked Barbara was Lesley Ann Jones. The idiot who started those rumors to begin with. Then they edited David Wigg in that channel 5 bull to make it look like his joke about being asked to join a threeesome was real. Peter Freestone said they shared a bed together but they never had sex. He clarified it serval times since then. Barbara never said they had sex or were real lovers on anything official. She was on the untold story and said herself she was just a friend. It matters because it's one more ridiculous lie about a man who isnt here to defend himself anymore. That woman claimed he tried to kill her. Physically harmed her AND hid his AIDS diagnosis from her after he found out, putting her life on the line. Bullshit. Freddie had far too good a heart to do that to anyone. Not to mention the man had to hide his sexuality all his life to protect his career. I'll be damned if I'm going to listen to it being erased or mislabeled in his death. PS that "docudrama" was so hideously inaccurate that Brian and Freddie's mom tried to get it stopped right before her death. When it came out, brian issued an apology to the fans on his soapbox. "Dont blame us folks. We tried to get it stopped. At least Mrs.Bulsara didnt have to see it air" she had died right before it came out. There's a reason Peter Freesrone wasn't in it. And anything with Lesley Ann Jones in it should be enough for anyone with common sense to see it's a lie.

Freddie found out he had AIDS in 87. She admitted he cut his finger once and screamed at her not to help. She said she didnt find out he had it until 89. Freddie told all his lovers in 1987 that he had it. As far back as 1982 with Joe. He told Joe who he stopped fucking in 82 but he hid it from Barbara who she claimed fucked him in 84 and 85? Yeah right. And i'm Paul McCartney's bastard son.

Not everything you see on TV is true about celebrities friend. Refer only to trusted sources. Peter Freestone Dennis DeWitt and Chris Taylor knew them both and all have the same story to tell: it never happened.
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Sweet thanks for standing up against that stupid Barbara thing. Anyone who buys into that garbage is saying Freddie was a piece of shit who abused and endangered people he cared about. Not mention its mislabeling a gay man who had to hide it all his life as bi. A ridiculous and massively offensive thing to put on the shoulders of a dead legend.

Barbara took over beard duty for Mary when Freddie lived in Germany. They were friends. Who never had a sexual relationship.

"I once asked Freddie after seeing the photos of them in the paper if he fucked Barbara. Maybe he'd switched teams. He looked at me as if I was mad and said 'Please! She's a cow!'. No they were absolutely never lovers." -Chris 'Crystal' Taylor.
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Hey Dusty,
Glad you chimed in!
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I never understood how anyone could possibly believe that Freddie slept with Barbara. It's so easily disproven. The fact that she never made the claim on anything official speaks volumes. Then you realize there's no mention of a sexual or romantic relationship between them mentioned in any of Peters books (who was close with both of them) and nothing in Jim's. Odd that Jim would mention Winnie as a lover and boyfriend to Freddie in his book but call Barbara a friend when Lesley Jones claims they were passionate lovers. Hmm....a man struggles with his sexuality for years....cries during sex with a woman saying he needs a man...then avoids sex with his following girlfriend so much so that she figures out he's gay before he even dreams of coming out.....he travels the world with an unquenchable desire for sex....and never shows interest in a single woman at all...plenty of men but no women from 1975 to 1984





Then he just...flips and jumps in bed with a woman who looks polar opposite to the women he tried dating in college? And nobody close to him mentioned this in their books? And Freddie denies it when asked? He doesn't feel the need to tell her he has aids for years after his diagnosis too? Hmm....I dont think you need a crystal ball to figure this one out.

What she was was shrinking star who used Freddie (after he died might I add. Dead men can't call your bullshit) to boost her own name. Peter talked about Freddie catching her lying in his first book. He said Freddie had her as a beard (fake girlfriend for the press) to avoid being outed as gay. Which is also why he still brought Mary to functions. And Freddie found it very strange that any and every time he and Barbara went out somewhere the press would suddenly show up and start snapping photos. She would grab his hand and kiss him for the cameras and Winnie (his actual lover) would be made to walk behind them. Every single time. Freddie (not being mentally challenged) looked into it and found that the press that were showing up everywhere he went with Barbara were friends of hers and she had been calling them to let them know where they would be each night. Freddie cut her off for a few years because he also found out she wasn't just happy being his beard. No no. She told the press they were getting married!


Barbara was a leech. He made the mistake of speaking with her again and she waited until he was good and dead before looking for tabliod writers to sell her stories too. Each time she told them, they got more and more wild. Her mistake was not keeping up with her own dates and claims.

The Barbara/bi lie is right up there in cringey annoying crap as the Princess Diana in drag story. Yawn.
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And Charlie's Boy,
A big welcome, and thank you very much for your observations and understanding of this topic.
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Hey Thor

Sorry to hear about that publishing company not working out. With the movie winning so many awards I'm surprised publishers aren't jumping at this. I have to belie it will come out at some point. With all the stories you guys are letting us in on here I'm really interested to see the photos that correlate with some of them. Wishing you guys good luck.