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Thoughts on Thor Arnold and Lee Nolan's eleven year friendship with Freddie

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Hey Thor, March is a good month to have a birthday. My daughter's birthday is 12th March and she will be 11. I have been teaching her all about queen and freddie and her fav song is 'Don't Stop Me Now'.

Lee, I can just imagine Brain's face in that lift lol......that party at the Kensington Roof Garden looked a riot!
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I agree with these latest sentiments about the film (I'm really sorry I don't remember whose comment it was – A LOT has happened in this thread since I was last here).
Rami was great in it and completely deserved the Oscar imo. It's also fantastic that it has excited so many new people about the music. The more I think about the plot and the way Freddie was portrayed, however, the more annoyed I get about the whole thing.

It made Freddie out to be a bitchy drug addict who broke up the band with his selfishness and ego, none of which is actually true, while also downplaying his kindness and sexuality. I find it interesting that Brian – notoriously sensitive about what is said about him – feels that this did Freddie justice. I'm willing to bet he'd be absolutely seething if a similarly fictionalized, “it's-a film-not-a-documentary” story of HIS life and role in the band had been shown.

Not trying to spread any bad vibes, it's just that this has been on my mind lately.
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Thor and Lee, I'm sorry to hear another publisher bit the dust on you. As someone currently looking for a job, I can relate to the frustration of constantly reaching out and being ignored or rejected. Hold your head high, I'm sure someone's going to pick the book up sooner or later. And when it happens, the whole fandom is going to pounce on it – myself included! :)
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Villers, what happened to your youtube channel? Was about to watch the video on BR I’d bookmarked and it’s gone :( also, are the live streams available to watch anywhere else?
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Koala I agree with you on many points in the movie it made him out to be the only one that indulged and that's not true.As for the sexuality I think its gonna take that book getting published that may be his only voice.Women still want to believe he was a straight guy that loved and wanted a woman but from what I have heard and read he was a blessed man to have these guys who accepted him as he was.It wouldnt even help if one of his true friends spoke up because you know the press would twist things and that's what I believe would happen.Hopefully the book will get published and that will be the end of all this fighting over his sexuality.
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Well said CHEVYMAN
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Hi Koala,
We have learned through trial and error, what to look for in a publisher and what to avoid. It makes it harder to find appropriate ones but Lee has been sending me some great leads after he researches what they are all about.
And here is my constant complaint (I hope I'm not whining)...it takes a huge amount of time to get this done.
Lee and I have become a better-oiled machine in our growth regarding this search.
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CHEVYMAN, absolutely. Apart from women who have the hots for him, there seem to be two other groups completely in denial about his sexuality that I've observed: 1) bisexuals who desperately want Freddie in their corner (although bi erasure is a real problem, it clearly doesn't apply here), 2) homophobes who simply won't accept that someone they look up to could have possibly been gay. In their minds, him being bi is somehow more palatable. Complete rubbish, but there you go.

As for the book putting the record straight...I'd like to see that happen, but unfortunately, I don't think there's ANYTHING that could change some of these people's minds. I've even seen some people argue that Freddie was, in fact, completely straight, and his gayness was a publicity stunt orchestrated by Jim Beach...I wish I was kidding.
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Thor, I'm glad you and Lee have learned how to deal with the whole process better. I'm keeping my fingers crossed your hard work pays off soon. And you're not whining at all! You've been more patient than many would be in this situation, and I can only imagine how draining it must be to put so much energy into writing the book, trying to get it published, only to keep hitting brick walls. I hope the support on here is helping to keep your spirits up.
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Koala,
I'd like to repeat the comment that was first told me by a wonderful QZ contributor a long time back and it has given me the patience to proceed, even when let down...

"J.K. Rawlings was rejected by 50 publishers before she signed on with one."

We are at about 18 with 25 more replies pending.
Oh, and about 5 Vanity Presses offered us lots of money...to pay to them!
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Koala, I responded to someone with the same question yesterday but no worries, as I know there was a ton of action here since then and it probably got buried lol. All videos are temporarily down while we edit to make them more uniform and will be added back soon along with the Jim Hutton one :)
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I think all adults can take something from the youth today they seem to be more accepting among each other than adults do.I think that's a different but positive change since the 80s .I was 14 dated the same girl till I was 17 we broke up I started dating my husband that I'm with today shortly after.But when I was in school I wouldnt dare let anyone know that was my girlfriend everyone thought she was my best friend we sure didnt show any affection at school.So yes i think we've came along way but there is still alot of changes that need to happen.
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Welcome CHEVYMAN!

You are correct...today's youth, for the most part, are far more open-minded. Now many high schools have LGBQ clubs. At the high school I graduated from, there is a GSA (Gay/Straight Alliance). There was certainly nothing like that 39 years ago when I graduated.
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Koala I agree about bisexuals wanting him in their corner but I can tell them from my own personal experience he wasnt bisexual I guess if you believe in labeling someone he would be 100 percent gay.i know this because by experience i knew from a really young age i was different and if i were labeled i wouldnt be gay they would label me probably bisexual.But to me I dont want to be labeled not out of shame it's because I dont think I need to justify who I love to anyone and i think maybe in my opinion Freddie felt he didnt need to justify that either and be labeled .He loved a beautiful soul and his name was Jim Hutton.
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Rainbow They didnt exist when I graduated in 1992 either.