Thoughts on Thor Arnold and Lee Nolan's eleven year friendship with Freddie

I dont think they mean any harm It just gets carried away sometimes.

Fisting?? Ok now that IS distasteful. Joking or not. Oh dear.

@thor I hope your flat wasn't badly damaged and that everything can be quickly sorted through the association.

@shaun the bad side of the communication era is that it made clear how idiocy is common in our fellow human beings. Sometimes I wonder why I bother trying to connect with people when so many prove to be such a disappointment. But there are some sensible ones worth sticking around for. To think that people could be so offensive towards someone who can't defend themselves anymore like Freddie and Jim and someone who never had the chance to give his side of the story like Joe, angers me too.

@ Villiers I missed the post where you told us of your health troubles, I hope you'll recover well, kidney stones are a nightmare!

Shaun so sorry hear you are upset and angry. I also know the account you are referring to and there are a lot of silly distasteful jokes about Freddie and Jim and their sexual preferences. This seems to be their humour and I don't think she realizes the upset it can cause to some.

I am in total agreement with you that every man that lived in Garden Lodge should be respected. I know I have total respect for them all.

Shaun you can unfollow the account and then you won't see it anymore.

Today I came across the account of a lady/girl who seems to have lost the plot somewhat. She claims that Peter and jim were not close with Freddie, they were just employees. She claims that Jim was violent towards Freddie and therefore Freddie was in an abusive relationship. She claims that Jim was attending 'The Gate Club' which she said is a very hard core sex club whilst Freddie was at home in bed. Furthermore, Freddie was never interested in Jim and they did not have a relationship, hence he was just the gardener. Jim's book is all lies to make himself look good and earn him money.

I have to tell you I am disgusted by this account and the actions of this very odd person. I just can't understand why she is so adamant that Jim and Freddie were not a couple.

To summarise we are genuine fans of Freddie, Jim, Joe and Peter on this thread that Thor/Lee created and we therefore really welcome you to chat with us, we would all very much like that, even the truth about Mary. As someone already said, sometimes the truth is hard to take but the truth is best in the long run.

Plesse feel free to come on here and talk and rant any time :)

Dustin I called her out a few times as she put information on her account giving the impression that she sought out the information. I made it clear that she had been looking at queenzone and that Thor was answering a question I had raised. I also said that she should come onto the thread here and say hello.
I don't tend to mention I chat on here with Thor/Lee too much on other groups I am in because there are a lot of nutters out there lol

I don't follow her and never have. Her account was suggested to me by Instagram and once I clicked on it her content just keeps coming up. That other account you mentioened sounds awful too. What is with some people??

talking about instagram, just as I was reading these messages, my hubby came and told me that my daughter has been on a live stream on Instagram and was being bullied by a boy.
The world we live in now sucks and I think Freddie would have hated all this technology, he wouldn't have had any proper privacy at all

Ha doughnut I love it. Glad you called her out on it because her attitude stinks. She's gatekeeping Thor and Lee and pretending to be this woke LA chick who is just super close to all gays and it's a little obnoxious. I would turn the other cheek but it annoyed me that any time she posted anything about Thor Lee or Garden Lodge related she would ignore anyone who asked her where she got the info. Then she would turn around and act like she got it straight from the source via text or something lol. People got so tired of freddieandjimforever gatekeeping that they started tagging Villiers in her posts and asking where they could find the info. And of course Villiers was nice enough to answer everyones questions about the garden lodge tapes and tell them they can find it on YouTube.

shaun there is a photo of what looks like Jim moving out of Garden Lodge and there is a man helping. I was wondering if it was you. If I recall the van was red

Dustin I am just feeling a bit lost with it all at the moment. I just like hearing nice true stories about Freddie , knowing the man behind the rock star has been interesting and Thor/Lee have been wonderful with what they have kindly told us. However, it just seems to be getting crazy . It's all the Mary v Jim stuff that is blowing my mind and the 'Mary was the love of his life' stuff completing ignoring the fact that Freddie was a gay man.
I've seen people wishing Freddie and Mary could have had children together . It's like many people want to erase anyone else that was in Freddie's life apart from Mary .

I dread to think what will happen when Thor/Lee bring there book out as those that can't handle Freddie being a gay man will be in for a shock

Hello yes I do think I know which photo you're referring to. That was Jim and I. Seems like a lifetime ago now.

I thought it might be you Shaun.

Can I ask a question please?

After reading both Peter and Jim's book I got the impression that Jim was closer to Joe than Peter. Would that be a correct ?

The real fans know Mr Mercury was gay and they don't bat an eyelid. As it should be. All the rest can wear their tinfoil hats and keep banging their drums all they like. Being gay was a part of who he was and Mr Thor and Mr Lee being honest about that the way Jim and Mr Freestone seemed to do is the best thing. If they were to hide or downplay it at all I feel it would be a great disservice as there seems to be very little truth in print about Mr Mercury. Never back down guys.

Cheers

No Jim wasn't overly close to either of them. They got on but they weren't brotherly from what I saw. Jim cared about them and they him but I got the feeling all 3 had little in common outside of Mr Mercury. I could be wrong as I was only really chatty with Jim and Joe spent most of our chats venting about Ms Austin and other frustrations. Very rarely did the conversations ever lead to discussing the closeness between the 3 men. I would only be guessing I'm afraid. I know Jim stayed in contact with them however.

Thanks Shaun

Maybe that explains why in Jims's book he said that Joe had apologised to him for not seeing him as Freddie boyfriend, only the gardener.

I do feel for Jim being thrown into that mad life with Freddie but it is so clear how much Jim loved Freddie. I do hope Jim was happy during all his time with Freddie at Garden Lodge