dysan
Like having IILWMC early on side one of ANATO - having Drowse follow a beat after TYMD's last bang would've been nice.
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The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]Dim wrote:[/b]
In terms of music it needs time for the average listeners to understand. Freddie wrote one of the best vaudeville music. It is classically influenced melodicism album. It is not easy album like Queen II and Innuendo.
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Innuendo perhaps, but certainly not Queen II. The arrangements are just as thick and lush (save for the fact that it was done on 16 track instead of 24). The only major difference in the two ensuing years is the accessibility.
Well, that and more diversity of genres and a better skill set in maneuvering the studio. But ultimately what makes ADATR the more accessible album is they got better at melody guiding the songs, whereas the arrangements are what guide most of Queen II.
I guess it's really a matter of taste. I love both albums, but for different reasons. But I guess my point is that Queen II is no less complex than ADATR, and that's where where similarities end.
In terms of music it needs time for the average listeners to understand. Freddie wrote one of the best vaudeville music. It is classically influenced melodicism album. It is not easy album like Queen II and Innuendo.
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Innuendo perhaps, but certainly not Queen II. The arrangements are just as thick and lush (save for the fact that it was done on 16 track instead of 24). The only major difference in the two ensuing years is the accessibility.
Well, that and more diversity of genres and a better skill set in maneuvering the studio. But ultimately what makes ADATR the more accessible album is they got better at melody guiding the songs, whereas the arrangements are what guide most of Queen II.
I guess it's really a matter of taste. I love both albums, but for different reasons. But I guess my point is that Queen II is no less complex than ADATR, and that's where where similarities end.
Iron Butterfly
[QUOTE] [b]Pim Derks wrote:[/b]
Just imagine if it had actually been a double album. Amazing.
SIDE ONE
Introduction/Death On Two Legs
Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon
I'm In Love With My Car
You And I
Good Old-Fashioned Lover Boy
Sweet Lady
SIDE TWO
You Take My Breath Away
'39
You're My Best Friend
The Millionaire Waltz
Good Company
Teo Torriate (Let Us Cling Together)
SIDE THREE
Somebody To Love
The Prophet's Song
White Man
Love Of My Life
Long Away
SIDE FOUR
Seaside Rendezvous
Drowse
Tie Your Mother Down
Bohemian Rhapsody
God Save The Queen[/QUOTE]
I like what could have been done. It would have been brilliant.
I'm happy with both albums. These are two of the albums that make me wish I was a fan back then. It must have been incredible to see how popular Queen became at the time.
Just imagine if it had actually been a double album. Amazing.
SIDE ONE
Introduction/Death On Two Legs
Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon
I'm In Love With My Car
You And I
Good Old-Fashioned Lover Boy
Sweet Lady
SIDE TWO
You Take My Breath Away
'39
You're My Best Friend
The Millionaire Waltz
Good Company
Teo Torriate (Let Us Cling Together)
SIDE THREE
Somebody To Love
The Prophet's Song
White Man
Love Of My Life
Long Away
SIDE FOUR
Seaside Rendezvous
Drowse
Tie Your Mother Down
Bohemian Rhapsody
God Save The Queen[/QUOTE]
I like what could have been done. It would have been brilliant.
I'm happy with both albums. These are two of the albums that make me wish I was a fan back then. It must have been incredible to see how popular Queen became at the time.
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]
somethings makes me think Races is slightly less bombastic, a little more restrained and a better sounding (warmer?) production,[/QUOTE]
Can't argue with that. White Man has a restraint that Prophet doesn't have. Its vision is clearer.
But I'll take '39 over Teo Torriatte any day. As gorgeous as the latter is, the former is just perfect. There is more depth to that piece than all of ADATR combined, as far as I'm concerned.
Part of the hindsight is knowing that Queen's backs were against the wall while creating ANATO, while ADATR has them happier and more peaceful with having sorted out their business affairs. It's almost always that fire of uncertainty that has an artist create their best work. But of course, such things are never apparent at the time to neither listeners nor the artist. They just create and leave their cerebral side at the door.
We really are grasping at straws here. Both albums are magnificent, just for different reasons.
somethings makes me think Races is slightly less bombastic, a little more restrained and a better sounding (warmer?) production,[/QUOTE]
Can't argue with that. White Man has a restraint that Prophet doesn't have. Its vision is clearer.
But I'll take '39 over Teo Torriatte any day. As gorgeous as the latter is, the former is just perfect. There is more depth to that piece than all of ADATR combined, as far as I'm concerned.
Part of the hindsight is knowing that Queen's backs were against the wall while creating ANATO, while ADATR has them happier and more peaceful with having sorted out their business affairs. It's almost always that fire of uncertainty that has an artist create their best work. But of course, such things are never apparent at the time to neither listeners nor the artist. They just create and leave their cerebral side at the door.
We really are grasping at straws here. Both albums are magnificent, just for different reasons.
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]Pim Derks wrote:[/b]
Just imagine if it had actually been a double album. Amazing. [/QUOTE]
The press would have destroyed them. The reviews would've been twice as harsh. ADATR on its own was reviewed as overblown and pompous. I can't imagine how much worse it could've been.
But I will give that track listing of yours a shot !
Just imagine if it had actually been a double album. Amazing. [/QUOTE]
The press would have destroyed them. The reviews would've been twice as harsh. ADATR on its own was reviewed as overblown and pompous. I can't imagine how much worse it could've been.
But I will give that track listing of yours a shot !
Saint Jiub
A failed attempt??? Puh-lease ... Good click-bait title though ...
I go against conventional wisdom as well (as usual).
aDatR has been my favorite Queen album for many years, whereas aNatO has faded out of my top five.
At the moment, I comparison rank the songs from favorite to least favorite:
SUPERB:
1. Good Company
2. The Millionaire Waltz
3. Somebody to Love
4. Bohemian Rhapsody
5. Teo Torriate
EXCEPTIONAL:
6. You Take My Breath Away
7. You and I
8. Tie Your Mother Down
EXCELLENT:
9. Lazing on a Sunday Afternoon
10. Drowse
11. I'm in Love with My Car
12. Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy
Very Good:
13. '39
14. White Man
15. The Prophet Song
16. Death on Two Legs
GOOD:
17. Long Away
18. Love of My Life
19. Seaside Rendezvous
20. You're My Best Friend
SUB-PAR:
21. God Save the Queen
22. Sweet Lady
I go against conventional wisdom as well (as usual).
aDatR has been my favorite Queen album for many years, whereas aNatO has faded out of my top five.
At the moment, I comparison rank the songs from favorite to least favorite:
SUPERB:
1. Good Company
2. The Millionaire Waltz
3. Somebody to Love
4. Bohemian Rhapsody
5. Teo Torriate
EXCEPTIONAL:
6. You Take My Breath Away
7. You and I
8. Tie Your Mother Down
EXCELLENT:
9. Lazing on a Sunday Afternoon
10. Drowse
11. I'm in Love with My Car
12. Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy
Very Good:
13. '39
14. White Man
15. The Prophet Song
16. Death on Two Legs
GOOD:
17. Long Away
18. Love of My Life
19. Seaside Rendezvous
20. You're My Best Friend
SUB-PAR:
21. God Save the Queen
22. Sweet Lady
SillyGoose
Sister albums on the surface but...
What about option #3 "better than"? I wouldn't go that far but I do think that ADATR is the better sounding of the two (as is the case with every album without Roy Baker).
ADATR has a melancholic atmosphere that I just can't find on the other albums, even ANATO. Long Away, Drowse, Teo Torriate and YTMBA come to mind.
What about option #3 "better than"? I wouldn't go that far but I do think that ADATR is the better sounding of the two (as is the case with every album without Roy Baker).
ADATR has a melancholic atmosphere that I just can't find on the other albums, even ANATO. Long Away, Drowse, Teo Torriate and YTMBA come to mind.
Jimmy Dean
ADATR side 1 is my favorite of the 4. it's the one i can listen to without ever getting tired of it. I'm a huge fan of Millionaire Waltz and You & I. Although, I prefer ANATO as a cohesive album due to the weaknesses in Side 2 of ADATR which has a horrible flow in comparison to the other 3 sides. ANOTO's greatest strength is the tracklist - it has an absolutely perfect sequence, in my opinion.
While ADATR sounds like a companion piece to the monster - i know this sounds completely idiotic - but I find ADATR has a fresher sound than ANATO. I believe it has to do with the fact that it was self-produced.
Failed attempt at recreating ANATO? absolutely. it bombed if that was what they were trying to achieve. But without asking such an obtuse question - you'd never give it a second thought... ADATR is a great Queen album.
While ADATR sounds like a companion piece to the monster - i know this sounds completely idiotic - but I find ADATR has a fresher sound than ANATO. I believe it has to do with the fact that it was self-produced.
Failed attempt at recreating ANATO? absolutely. it bombed if that was what they were trying to achieve. But without asking such an obtuse question - you'd never give it a second thought... ADATR is a great Queen album.
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]SillyGoose wrote:[/b]
ADATR has a melancholic atmosphere that I just can't find on the other albums, even ANATO. Long Away, Drowse, Teo Torriate and YTMBA come to mind.[/QUOTE]
...which really is ironic, because these sessions are probably the happiest they ever were in the studio as a unit.
ADATR has a melancholic atmosphere that I just can't find on the other albums, even ANATO. Long Away, Drowse, Teo Torriate and YTMBA come to mind.[/QUOTE]
...which really is ironic, because these sessions are probably the happiest they ever were in the studio as a unit.
Agr123456
I suppose that a different opinion is needed here... :P
I prefer ADATR, for me, much better songs on it. Yes ANATO contains Bohemian Rhapsody, Death On Two Legs, You´re My Best Friend and I´m In Love With My Car...But i usually skip songs like Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon, Seaside Rendezvous, Good Company and God Save The Queen. Not a big fan of Sweet Lady, Love Of My Life or The Prophet´s Song. I like them but...
ADATR sound very near to ANATO but has better songs...My least favourite songs are The Millionaire Waltz and White Man but i don´t skip them when i hear this album.
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I suppose i´m a rare-Queen-fan... Even i prefer solo albums like Blue Rock or Mad Bad instead of albums like Sheer Heart Attack, Queen II or ANATO (which are not on my Top 5)...
I prefer ADATR, for me, much better songs on it. Yes ANATO contains Bohemian Rhapsody, Death On Two Legs, You´re My Best Friend and I´m In Love With My Car...But i usually skip songs like Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon, Seaside Rendezvous, Good Company and God Save The Queen. Not a big fan of Sweet Lady, Love Of My Life or The Prophet´s Song. I like them but...
ADATR sound very near to ANATO but has better songs...My least favourite songs are The Millionaire Waltz and White Man but i don´t skip them when i hear this album.
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I suppose i´m a rare-Queen-fan... Even i prefer solo albums like Blue Rock or Mad Bad instead of albums like Sheer Heart Attack, Queen II or ANATO (which are not on my Top 5)...
cmsdrums
ADATR is my favourite Queen album...just pure joy from end, not a weak track on it, immaculate writing, production and performance.
Martin Packer
What is interesting, but unsurprising, is that we all rate each of the songs differently. It's bloody typical of us. :-)
mike hunt
[QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]
A failed attempt??? Puh-lease ... Good click-bait title though ...
I go against conventional wisdom as well (as usual).
aDatR has been my favorite Queen album for many years, whereas aNatO has faded out of my top five.
At the moment, I comparison rank the songs from favorite to least favorite:
SUPERB:
1. Good Company
2. The Millionaire Waltz
3. Somebody to Love
4. Bohemian Rhapsody
5. Teo Torriate
EXCEPTIONAL:
6. You Take My Breath Away
7. You and I
8. Tie Your Mother Down
EXCELLENT:
9. Lazing on a Sunday Afternoon
10. Drowse
11. I'm in Love with My Car
12. Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy
Very Good:
13. '39
14. White Man
15. The Prophet Song
16. Death on Two Legs
GOOD:
17. Long Away
18. Love of My Life
19. Seaside Rendezvous
20. You're My Best Friend
SUB-PAR:
21. God Save the Queen
22. Sweet Lady[/QUOTE]
I'm really not click baiting.....Races is a Interesting album in the fact that I hear 2 sides of the argument since I been a Queen fan. On one side I hear It's a strong album and disciplined Like Opera and others say they tried too copy their biggest success and failed, that''s why they went in a new direction with News Of The World.
A failed attempt??? Puh-lease ... Good click-bait title though ...
I go against conventional wisdom as well (as usual).
aDatR has been my favorite Queen album for many years, whereas aNatO has faded out of my top five.
At the moment, I comparison rank the songs from favorite to least favorite:
SUPERB:
1. Good Company
2. The Millionaire Waltz
3. Somebody to Love
4. Bohemian Rhapsody
5. Teo Torriate
EXCEPTIONAL:
6. You Take My Breath Away
7. You and I
8. Tie Your Mother Down
EXCELLENT:
9. Lazing on a Sunday Afternoon
10. Drowse
11. I'm in Love with My Car
12. Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy
Very Good:
13. '39
14. White Man
15. The Prophet Song
16. Death on Two Legs
GOOD:
17. Long Away
18. Love of My Life
19. Seaside Rendezvous
20. You're My Best Friend
SUB-PAR:
21. God Save the Queen
22. Sweet Lady[/QUOTE]
I'm really not click baiting.....Races is a Interesting album in the fact that I hear 2 sides of the argument since I been a Queen fan. On one side I hear It's a strong album and disciplined Like Opera and others say they tried too copy their biggest success and failed, that''s why they went in a new direction with News Of The World.
dysan
I'm not sure they tried to copy it - certainly making part 2 was on their mind primarily because they were totally out of ideas.
mike hunt
[QUOTE] [b]mike hunt wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]
A failed attempt??? Puh-lease ... Good click-bait title though ...
I go against conventional wisdom as well (as usual).
aDatR has been my favorite Queen album for many years, whereas aNatO has faded out of my top five.
At the moment, I comparison rank the songs from favorite to least favorite:
SUPERB:
1. Good Company
2. The Millionaire Waltz
3. Somebody to Love
4. Bohemian Rhapsody
5. Teo Torriate
EXCEPTIONAL:
6. You Take My Breath Away
7. You and I
8. Tie Your Mother Down
EXCELLENT:
9. Lazing on a Sunday Afternoon
10. Drowse
11. I'm in Love with My Car
12. Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy
Very Good:
13. '39
14. White Man
15. The Prophet Song
16. Death on Two Legs
GOOD:
17. Long Away
18. Love of My Life
19. Seaside Rendezvous
20. You're My Best Friend
SUB-PAR:
21. God Save the Queen
22. Sweet Lady[/QUOTE]
I'm really not click baiting.....Races is a Interesting album in the fact that I hear 2 sides of the argument since I been a Queen fan. On one side I hear It's a strong album and disciplined Like Opera and others say they tried to copy their biggest success and failed, that''s why they went in a new direction with News Of The World.
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[QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]
A failed attempt??? Puh-lease ... Good click-bait title though ...
I go against conventional wisdom as well (as usual).
aDatR has been my favorite Queen album for many years, whereas aNatO has faded out of my top five.
At the moment, I comparison rank the songs from favorite to least favorite:
SUPERB:
1. Good Company
2. The Millionaire Waltz
3. Somebody to Love
4. Bohemian Rhapsody
5. Teo Torriate
EXCEPTIONAL:
6. You Take My Breath Away
7. You and I
8. Tie Your Mother Down
EXCELLENT:
9. Lazing on a Sunday Afternoon
10. Drowse
11. I'm in Love with My Car
12. Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy
Very Good:
13. '39
14. White Man
15. The Prophet Song
16. Death on Two Legs
GOOD:
17. Long Away
18. Love of My Life
19. Seaside Rendezvous
20. You're My Best Friend
SUB-PAR:
21. God Save the Queen
22. Sweet Lady[/QUOTE]
I'm really not click baiting.....Races is a Interesting album in the fact that I hear 2 sides of the argument since I been a Queen fan. On one side I hear It's a strong album and disciplined Like Opera and others say they tried to copy their biggest success and failed, that''s why they went in a new direction with News Of The World.
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