Sure, you come across such groups, why not? But why do you want them to post here?
And no, Adam‘s not mine - wrong shore ;-) . I just came to enjoy QAL.
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I have no problem with your opinion of Adam, or what Queen do, you don't see me posting endless threads about Adam do you? I've been a fan since 75 and seen them in every format they have had, I like the music and frankly I have no issue who they play with or who sings the songs so long as I get a chance to see Brian and Roger playing, the simple fact is they have been playing without Freddie now longer that they were with him, and they've played to millions of people around the world, so your comments about it not being to Queen fans of old is nonsense that certainly hasn't been my experience attending gigs since 1991 without Freddie. I still go to see The Stones The Who Deep Purple all of which have new members and it doesn't make a difference to the enjoyment of the show. I enjoy hearing the songs done in different ways, I'm a musician so I enjoy learning how they create the sound, you don't see me posting multiple threads about Adam or Freddie or anything, so it has NOTHING to do with not agreeing with your opinions, but your posts are futile, you are not going to change what they are doing or change anybodies view here so why bother unless all you wish to do is create a disturbance which is where I DO have a problem, you can have whatever opinion you like, but why voice it a 1000 times....? it's futile, they are not listening and neither is anyone here, it's two of you repeatedly bleating the same shit out, we call that SPAM these days....
At the risk of repeating myself, I don't give to hoots what you think about then now, but threatening or insulting folk is not acceptable, so be careful what you start you may not like how it finishes
At the risk of repeating myself, I don't give to hoots what you think about then now, but threatening or insulting folk is not acceptable, so be careful what you start you may not like how it finishes
Its such a shame you accept an ailing band getting weaker and weaker before it comes to a stop, because Queen (Brian & Roger) still pretend they are the rock gods they were with Freddie & John back in the 70s & 80s. but the truth of the matter is since Freddie died and John rightly f*cked off, Queen are crap.
Queen post 1991 has not set the charts on fire anymore, and they are not accepted as the greatest rock n roll tour de force that they were with Freddie when he blew everyone away at Live Aid back in 1985. Sure Bri & Rog can play with who they want and when they want, but it is a crying shame to see they have dropped there very high standards now to be playing with a mixed up kid from a reality show, have things really gone that pathetic?
Years to come i hope those two regret what they have done embarrassing the lifelong fans who were with them right from the very start.
What happened to Queen, they used to be such a classy act, always taking there time on projects and albums, but then they did have Freddie around and he always used to keep Brian & Roger in line, something that is painfully missing around Queen today. Brian thinks he is head boy these days and what he wants he gets,
Queen post 1991 has not set the charts on fire anymore, and they are not accepted as the greatest rock n roll tour de force that they were with Freddie when he blew everyone away at Live Aid back in 1985. Sure Bri & Rog can play with who they want and when they want, but it is a crying shame to see they have dropped there very high standards now to be playing with a mixed up kid from a reality show, have things really gone that pathetic?
Years to come i hope those two regret what they have done embarrassing the lifelong fans who were with them right from the very start.
What happened to Queen, they used to be such a classy act, always taking there time on projects and albums, but then they did have Freddie around and he always used to keep Brian & Roger in line, something that is painfully missing around Queen today. Brian thinks he is head boy these days and what he wants he gets,
Happystar
Just out of curiosity did you like the QPR collaboration.
I think the facts are obvious that they aren't getting weaker at all, people are loving them and they in turn are having an absolute blast. I doubt they're interested in setting the charts on fire at this point or even bothered about trying to replicate the status they had with Freddie, it's just about being out there and enjoying what they do. It's never going to please everyone but enough are loving it to make it viable. The part I don't get is the "mixed up kid from a reality show". Do you seriously think Brian & Roger would just pick some random from a talent contest who couldn't really sing or had no idea what they were doing?. And I mean for a proper tour, not just a random one off song here and there.
He'd been singing onstage since age 10, professionally since 19 and had toured with theater productions, been in a band, done work as a session singer for studio demo's etc. It was obvious to everyone, viewers and the show execs he wasn't your usual talent show contestant. Added to that his work ethic and the fact he's so perfectionist that he gets involved in every aspect of anything he does and has his own ideas on things which he's not easily swayed from, he was never going to be someone who just stood there and karaoke'd the songs. That's probably why this works so well.
Also from the bit about Freddie keeping them in line I'm assuming you think it's all Brian's idea and Roger is just going along with it?
Just out of curiosity did you like the QPR collaboration.
I think the facts are obvious that they aren't getting weaker at all, people are loving them and they in turn are having an absolute blast. I doubt they're interested in setting the charts on fire at this point or even bothered about trying to replicate the status they had with Freddie, it's just about being out there and enjoying what they do. It's never going to please everyone but enough are loving it to make it viable. The part I don't get is the "mixed up kid from a reality show". Do you seriously think Brian & Roger would just pick some random from a talent contest who couldn't really sing or had no idea what they were doing?. And I mean for a proper tour, not just a random one off song here and there.
He'd been singing onstage since age 10, professionally since 19 and had toured with theater productions, been in a band, done work as a session singer for studio demo's etc. It was obvious to everyone, viewers and the show execs he wasn't your usual talent show contestant. Added to that his work ethic and the fact he's so perfectionist that he gets involved in every aspect of anything he does and has his own ideas on things which he's not easily swayed from, he was never going to be someone who just stood there and karaoke'd the songs. That's probably why this works so well.
Also from the bit about Freddie keeping them in line I'm assuming you think it's all Brian's idea and Roger is just going along with it?
I don't understand happystar's mixed up kid reference either.
Lambert is the same age now that Freddie was during Queen's most successful period.
Lambert is the same age now that Freddie was during Queen's most successful period.
Well there you go, if Lamebird is around Freddie's age now then he has not achieved half of what Freddie had during that age.
Mercury was flying high, with Queen and had top 5 singles and albums all over the globe.
Lamebird is just a touring gimmick, and when you think he has had nine years to record with Queen which will never happen now.
May & Taylor know that by recording with Lamebird there sales will tumble and flop big time.
Poor sales for The Cosmos Rock have made the last two Queenies very nervy!
Mercury was flying high, with Queen and had top 5 singles and albums all over the globe.
Lamebird is just a touring gimmick, and when you think he has had nine years to record with Queen which will never happen now.
May & Taylor know that by recording with Lamebird there sales will tumble and flop big time.
Poor sales for The Cosmos Rock have made the last two Queenies very nervy!
Your comment about The Cosmos Rocks hits the nail on the head - Brian said in interview that they got the impression people only want to hear Freddie on recorded material with them. Added to that the music industry has changed so much, albums don't make much money anymore, it's the touring off the back of them that generates income. Being realistic, would it be worth spending ages in a studio, writing and recording a bunch of songs that may or may not be well received (it's a gamble), when they are able to still tour at the level they do without new material. Would the record company/promoters, whoever, even put money up for that?
Adam's a victim of the same problem in his solo career IMO. If you wanted an album you saved up and bought it and even if it didn't grab you straight away, you'd paid for it so you would keep playing it to get your money's worth. Over time familiarity makes things seem better than you initially thought. Now you can go on spotify etc and listen to anything and they worked out the average time someone listens to a new song before skipping is 5 seconds!! Hardly giving it a chance is it. Added to that the songs he or his label used as singles were not his best by a long shot but most people will never have heard of his other stuff if it wasn't played on radio. That said I don't see what Adam's solo career really has to do with the Q+AL stuff.
Adam's a victim of the same problem in his solo career IMO. If you wanted an album you saved up and bought it and even if it didn't grab you straight away, you'd paid for it so you would keep playing it to get your money's worth. Over time familiarity makes things seem better than you initially thought. Now you can go on spotify etc and listen to anything and they worked out the average time someone listens to a new song before skipping is 5 seconds!! Hardly giving it a chance is it. Added to that the songs he or his label used as singles were not his best by a long shot but most people will never have heard of his other stuff if it wasn't played on radio. That said I don't see what Adam's solo career really has to do with the Q+AL stuff.
If Q & AL are so popular then an album would have emerged i am sure of that, but it has not up to now, and you say it may have been a gamble well i will agree with that answer,
If Lamebird was as good as you seem to think he is then why did he only come second in American Idol? Been a performer since he was ten years old then he let himself down then, right?
I honestly treat the collaboration as
a gimmick, and you cannot take a band 100% serious anymore when they have been hypocritical of there own comments a few years before Lamebird came to light. May & Taylor plus Elton were against talent shows and said they were killing the industry off big time, and then what did they do? They appeared on Xfactor with Paul Rodgers! Next few years Paul quit Queen and the week after Adam was found.
So i see this as a plan from Brian May, he knows Adam has a young fan base and that means £££££££££££ so as coy as Brian is, he decides to offer Lamebird the job of singing Queens material and Lamebird accepts, and his career has taken off. Without that offer Lamebird would not be as famous as he is now. Brian gave him that break.
If Lamebird was as good as you seem to think he is then why did he only come second in American Idol? Been a performer since he was ten years old then he let himself down then, right?
I honestly treat the collaboration as
a gimmick, and you cannot take a band 100% serious anymore when they have been hypocritical of there own comments a few years before Lamebird came to light. May & Taylor plus Elton were against talent shows and said they were killing the industry off big time, and then what did they do? They appeared on Xfactor with Paul Rodgers! Next few years Paul quit Queen and the week after Adam was found.
So i see this as a plan from Brian May, he knows Adam has a young fan base and that means £££££££££££ so as coy as Brian is, he decides to offer Lamebird the job of singing Queens material and Lamebird accepts, and his career has taken off. Without that offer Lamebird would not be as famous as he is now. Brian gave him that break.
In any contest, even sport, it comes down to two people or teams and only one can win. Doesn't mean the other person is rubbish. Especially when the decision is based on public vote, it then becomes a popularity contest. Adam's quite a divisive person as evidenced here and he was never going to appeal to cookie cutter american types. The other guy (Kris) was religious, your typical wholesome american guy next door. After the third contestant got voted off, also christian church goer etc my theory is some of his votes transferred to Kris. There was also talk of some cheating with the phones by AT&T who apparently gave out phones in Kris's home town and showed people how to send multiple txt's. Doesn't really matter, Adam only went on the show for exposure, not to win a title per se so he got what he wanted anyway. He'd already been offered an international recording contract before the finale, Kris only got a local one even after winning. Not taking away from him, he is talented and plays instruments but his voice is limited in range and tone and he's an understated type of performer.
I would say that answers the question of why they went back on their dislike of talent shows as well. He really shouldn't have had to resort to that to get anywhere and it was a last resort thing on his part. It was the first time Led Zep allowed one of their songs to be used and even Slash, who made no secret what he thought of those shows actually asked to be a mentor based on seeing (a couple of standouts).
As to the popularity thing, I don't buy that, yeah Adam is extremely loved by his fans but there aren't enough of them to translate into full arena's, his own tours are in smaller venues. When they met and showed interest in teaming up to do something (2009) it took another two years to do the EMA thing and then they only did those one of shows in 2012. Adam wanted to do his solo stuff first and never even thought of it as a permanent thing, just a couple of appearances here and there. It just snowballed and I'm sure he loves getting to tour arena's playing to large audiences but he still want's to carry on with his solo stuff.
I would say that answers the question of why they went back on their dislike of talent shows as well. He really shouldn't have had to resort to that to get anywhere and it was a last resort thing on his part. It was the first time Led Zep allowed one of their songs to be used and even Slash, who made no secret what he thought of those shows actually asked to be a mentor based on seeing (a couple of standouts).
As to the popularity thing, I don't buy that, yeah Adam is extremely loved by his fans but there aren't enough of them to translate into full arena's, his own tours are in smaller venues. When they met and showed interest in teaming up to do something (2009) it took another two years to do the EMA thing and then they only did those one of shows in 2012. Adam wanted to do his solo stuff first and never even thought of it as a permanent thing, just a couple of appearances here and there. It just snowballed and I'm sure he loves getting to tour arena's playing to large audiences but he still want's to carry on with his solo stuff.
Rockchic: You are a glambert fan and i understand that you love him and his music, but one day Queen are going to disband because Brian is not in good health and he is in his 70s,
so when that day comes i would say Lamberts career is on the slide most certainly.
He will not last without Queen making him seem more dynamic than he really is.
Freddie had all kinds of tricks to show the public how talented he was. His pianist skills were mind blowing, as was he moves on stage along with that big voice he had and the falsetto range in his voice which was stunning on tracks like "Soul Brother" side B to "Under Pressure".
so when that day comes i would say Lamberts career is on the slide most certainly.
He will not last without Queen making him seem more dynamic than he really is.
Freddie had all kinds of tricks to show the public how talented he was. His pianist skills were mind blowing, as was he moves on stage along with that big voice he had and the falsetto range in his voice which was stunning on tracks like "Soul Brother" side B to "Under Pressure".
As great as Freddie was: He was never a successful solo-artist. It was only the four members of Queen together, who were great and successful.
Agreed Sealion, none of them had the solo success they had as a group for some reason. Maybe it was the distinctive Queen sound that was missing in their solo projects.
Happystar I'm actually a Queen fan who only heard of Adam through seeing vids on YouTube with Queen. I went back and watched his Idol stuff etc later because, to me at least he has that thing that stands out, whatever you want to call it, charisma, it factor? I've no idea what will happen after the Queen thing ends, I do think the thing going against Adam as a solo artist is his choice of direction music wise. He was clearly drawn to pop and IMO was too old to be the next bieber etc. I personally think he'd do better showing his actual voice rather than the over processed stuff that passes for music these days. It's great if you're not that good a singer but his edge is his vocal theatrics, and people do love them, but not much chance to show that on a commercial pop record.
I agree about Freddie, he had one of the most unique voices I've ever heard and his falsetto was stunning, especially because of his gorgeous lower register.
Happystar I'm actually a Queen fan who only heard of Adam through seeing vids on YouTube with Queen. I went back and watched his Idol stuff etc later because, to me at least he has that thing that stands out, whatever you want to call it, charisma, it factor? I've no idea what will happen after the Queen thing ends, I do think the thing going against Adam as a solo artist is his choice of direction music wise. He was clearly drawn to pop and IMO was too old to be the next bieber etc. I personally think he'd do better showing his actual voice rather than the over processed stuff that passes for music these days. It's great if you're not that good a singer but his edge is his vocal theatrics, and people do love them, but not much chance to show that on a commercial pop record.
I agree about Freddie, he had one of the most unique voices I've ever heard and his falsetto was stunning, especially because of his gorgeous lower register.
"the truth of the matter is since Freddie died and John rightly f*cked off, Queen are crap".
Yet here you are on a Queen forum posting EVERYDAY... contributing nothing in the Serious or General section, You have nothing to contribute when it comes to discussions about the band during the time you say they were great, only deciding to whinge on here each day, if they are so crap why given it's 27 years after Freddie died are you here each day? You seem VERY interested in them in there current form.
It could be argued that you are actually helping to promote them and keep them current....
Yet here you are on a Queen forum posting EVERYDAY... contributing nothing in the Serious or General section, You have nothing to contribute when it comes to discussions about the band during the time you say they were great, only deciding to whinge on here each day, if they are so crap why given it's 27 years after Freddie died are you here each day? You seem VERY interested in them in there current form.
It could be argued that you are actually helping to promote them and keep them current....
Togg: Look at my other Forum page on here,"Where you ever mocked at school for liking Queen"? i have had lots of positive comment because of that! You may say i come on here and spout off about post Queen but that is debate, but you do not see as such. Sorry to tell you but everything in life is not nicey nicey there is always two sides to a coin, and if i find something obscene like Queen shacking up to the weird Lamebird then i will say so as it is my satiable right to air my views. Can you imaging the outcry if Robert Plant was replaced for Led Zep there would be many many miserable people who would not like that.
I am not one of the sheep who is lead blind because Brian May says Lambert is the gift from god, what utter rubbish and hype. It is about time Mr May gave Freddie more respect and praise him for his amazing presence that he gave Queen and not to mention that incredible vocal rang that he had.
I am not one of the sheep who is lead blind because Brian May says Lambert is the gift from god, what utter rubbish and hype. It is about time Mr May gave Freddie more respect and praise him for his amazing presence that he gave Queen and not to mention that incredible vocal rang that he had.
There you go again waving the flag for Q+AL, like they say no publicity is bad publicity, I see you're keeping the post count on the Q+AL thread up nice and high ha
Robert Plant probably wouldn't give two hoots, as far as he's concerned Led Zep is in the past, but as a point of correction here, Freddie wasn't replaced, he died.... Led Zep 'replaced' Bonzo after he died, The Who 'replaced' Moon, and Entwistle The Stones 'replaced' Jones and Wyman, Genesis carried on without Gabriel and Hackett, it's just a band.... not the Pope.... oh wait he gets replaced when he dies, Why can't a band continue after someone leaves
The Eagles have just replaced Fry.... there's too many to mention here, literally everybody gets replaced if they leave, the ONLY reason the Beatles didn't replace someone was because they were all fed up with the band, but in reality they replaced Best and Sutcliff as well.... Had McCartney walked out on the Beatles and Lennon, Ringo and Harrison wanted to go on they would have found another Bass player, everybody does.
Seriously get over it, he died 27 years ago, time to move on, surely if nothing else Brian and Roger are bringing thousands of new Queen fans to the fold that will buy and listen to Freddie as a result, one would imagine Fred would have been pretty happy with that, 27 years after his death his music is alive and well and bringing in new fans daily
Robert Plant probably wouldn't give two hoots, as far as he's concerned Led Zep is in the past, but as a point of correction here, Freddie wasn't replaced, he died.... Led Zep 'replaced' Bonzo after he died, The Who 'replaced' Moon, and Entwistle The Stones 'replaced' Jones and Wyman, Genesis carried on without Gabriel and Hackett, it's just a band.... not the Pope.... oh wait he gets replaced when he dies, Why can't a band continue after someone leaves
The Eagles have just replaced Fry.... there's too many to mention here, literally everybody gets replaced if they leave, the ONLY reason the Beatles didn't replace someone was because they were all fed up with the band, but in reality they replaced Best and Sutcliff as well.... Had McCartney walked out on the Beatles and Lennon, Ringo and Harrison wanted to go on they would have found another Bass player, everybody does.
Seriously get over it, he died 27 years ago, time to move on, surely if nothing else Brian and Roger are bringing thousands of new Queen fans to the fold that will buy and listen to Freddie as a result, one would imagine Fred would have been pretty happy with that, 27 years after his death his music is alive and well and bringing in new fans daily