^^^ these are the simple facts of the situation. .
But it's also something that has been explained over and over again, in the past. Accepting applications he present means you can move forward. There are those who never will.
The list of bands that have undergone lineup changes is huge, those who haven't is much smaller. The point that happystar seems to miss is that the band and those people buying tickets are really enjoying the shows. Some of those people , like me saw the band with Freddie some weren't that lucky. However that in no way means we can't enjoy them as a live band now.
Freddie himself said that if he ever left they would have the ability to replace him and carry on. I don't think ( though I'm not saying this is fact) he expected Queen to stop being Queen when he was no longer there.
The band as they are now are as successful as a live band as they ever were. Surely any genuine Queen fans would see past liking or not liking Lambert to understand that what is happening is that they are carrying the banner that was dropped ( through no ones fault) in 1986.
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I do not like the comment "move on it was 27 years ago since Freddie died" yeah i know that but my point is no one is worthy taking Freddies mic to carry on
Queen. Queen can easily remain popular even if they had spit up because legendary bands are thought of in the very highest regards, just like Abba, The Beatles, Hendrix......
The thing with Queen + AL is the whole operation has become very very commercial, because when Queen were Queen i never saw advertising the concerts on the hyper high level that they do it now to flog the tickets. Mind you i guess they never had too back then as Queen sold out in minutes, and yeah i know they still sell out fast now but they use so much publicity to get them sold. Yeah lots of bands have had replacement band members but they were not extraordinary lead singers like Freddie was. He was different to the rest, he was the bands most recognisable band member and the most important one by miles. The bands ambience and musical direction was very Freddie. To me other bands were just bands, but Queen had the most special front man ever and how can one move on and forget him, its impossible because he was just so damn good and magnetic to watch.
Queen. Queen can easily remain popular even if they had spit up because legendary bands are thought of in the very highest regards, just like Abba, The Beatles, Hendrix......
The thing with Queen + AL is the whole operation has become very very commercial, because when Queen were Queen i never saw advertising the concerts on the hyper high level that they do it now to flog the tickets. Mind you i guess they never had too back then as Queen sold out in minutes, and yeah i know they still sell out fast now but they use so much publicity to get them sold. Yeah lots of bands have had replacement band members but they were not extraordinary lead singers like Freddie was. He was different to the rest, he was the bands most recognisable band member and the most important one by miles. The bands ambience and musical direction was very Freddie. To me other bands were just bands, but Queen had the most special front man ever and how can one move on and forget him, its impossible because he was just so damn good and magnetic to watch.
You are spot on as usual happy. This drivel like "other bands had replacements as well" is getting so old. Can you really compare Keith Moon or Entwhistle from the Who with Freddie, who was the focus of the band Queen? Even if iconic frontmen were replaced, they either were
replaced by another icon or at east did they try to be creative. I dont know any other band , whose iconic frontman was replaced by a talentshow guy and endless greatest Hits tours followed. This is selling out and making money only out of your glorious past. And to justify this circus act they hype it up and use Freddie in EVERY interview that they give , that he "would have loved it": What a piece of BS!
AC/DC replaced Bon Scott, who was an icon too (not in Freddie's league though as Angus was and is the main man in DC), was replaced by Brian Johnson, but they released thei biggest album bBack in Black before they went on tour.
Pink FLoyd let Waters go and Gilmour took the vocals only by himself. SOme frontmen can NEVER be replaced: Robert Plant, Mick Jagger, Bono. Can you really imagine a "Stones plus Adam Lambert" or a "U2 plus Adam Lambert" - you have to laugh when you think about it. Noone ever replaced SUCH an icon but the definition of an icon is replaced by a talentshow muppet half their age, with no rock music background or even a career? Thats just plain silly and disrespectful to their past.
Brian and Roger have become big hippocrites nowhaving lost everything they once stood for. I always had the feeling that Brian May envied Freddie for being recognized as the Main focus of QUeen instead of Brians Guitar licks. There is evidence in past interviews where he comes across as bitter. I think Freddie and Brian were never the best of friends. Freddies closest friend in the band was John and he did thertight thing to avoid this awful awful flogging of a dead horse.
replaced by another icon or at east did they try to be creative. I dont know any other band , whose iconic frontman was replaced by a talentshow guy and endless greatest Hits tours followed. This is selling out and making money only out of your glorious past. And to justify this circus act they hype it up and use Freddie in EVERY interview that they give , that he "would have loved it": What a piece of BS!
AC/DC replaced Bon Scott, who was an icon too (not in Freddie's league though as Angus was and is the main man in DC), was replaced by Brian Johnson, but they released thei biggest album bBack in Black before they went on tour.
Pink FLoyd let Waters go and Gilmour took the vocals only by himself. SOme frontmen can NEVER be replaced: Robert Plant, Mick Jagger, Bono. Can you really imagine a "Stones plus Adam Lambert" or a "U2 plus Adam Lambert" - you have to laugh when you think about it. Noone ever replaced SUCH an icon but the definition of an icon is replaced by a talentshow muppet half their age, with no rock music background or even a career? Thats just plain silly and disrespectful to their past.
Brian and Roger have become big hippocrites nowhaving lost everything they once stood for. I always had the feeling that Brian May envied Freddie for being recognized as the Main focus of QUeen instead of Brians Guitar licks. There is evidence in past interviews where he comes across as bitter. I think Freddie and Brian were never the best of friends. Freddies closest friend in the band was John and he did thertight thing to avoid this awful awful flogging of a dead horse.
Runner70: Great post and spot on as usual. Great pity many other people on here don't use there brains what is happening under there noses.
i was always suspicious of Brian been jealous of Freddie because he never praised his singing abilities to the press like he does now about Lamebird.
Brian now thinks Queen is HIS band and Roger just wants to play drums with Tiger his son.
He uses the weapon of putting Freddies face on the screen to make believe he misses him, but if that was the case he would speak out more about Freddies great qualities.
It is very interesting analysing what Mr May is really up too, because we do know he has told lots of lies to get the money in.
That album Forever Queen that was released back in 2014 (dont quote me on date) was hyped by Brian & Roger saying it had lots of new tracks on and new Queen song versions,
one new track appeared "Let me in your heart again" and the new versions of Queen songs appeared as edits! Queen fans still getting ripped off big time.
i was always suspicious of Brian been jealous of Freddie because he never praised his singing abilities to the press like he does now about Lamebird.
Brian now thinks Queen is HIS band and Roger just wants to play drums with Tiger his son.
He uses the weapon of putting Freddies face on the screen to make believe he misses him, but if that was the case he would speak out more about Freddies great qualities.
It is very interesting analysing what Mr May is really up too, because we do know he has told lots of lies to get the money in.
That album Forever Queen that was released back in 2014 (dont quote me on date) was hyped by Brian & Roger saying it had lots of new tracks on and new Queen song versions,
one new track appeared "Let me in your heart again" and the new versions of Queen songs appeared as edits! Queen fans still getting ripped off big time.
LMIYH again was so amazing - but the rest of the album such a ripoff. Plain proof that they just want the money. And I still assume that one of them (or even both) need the money badly. We all assume that they are fed up with $$ but there are lots of BIG rockstars or sportsmen who have invested badly. Maybe thats one of the reasons too to give up their own credibility and just sell out. YOU never know. These "worth lists" are pointless and not proof.
I think they are beyond wealthy and if you don't, you don't know much. They are doing all these things for the love of their music. If you think otherwise, you really don't understand the spirit of Queen, which lives on for many more new fans. You can have your negative opinions, but why inflict them on people who would like to positively discuss QAL? I just don't get why someone will crap all over something just for the spite of it!
So you said it yourself. You just want to "discuss" with lamebert sheep. Whats the point if a discussion then????
Sniff you obviously have seen Brians bank statements have you?
Funny reading "You don't understand the spirit of Queen" from a delusional Glambert. Maybe you have no clue about Queen whatsoever when you dont even realize that Maylor are sad hippocrites when they post links to tabloids that haunted Freddie in his last days. Under which rock are you living???
Is sweet Caroline and snifflese one and the same person??? I think so...
Is sweet Caroline and snifflese one and the same person??? I think so...
Well I think we can just leave the two of you to moan daily on here about it, seems like the band are doing fine, sales of Queen albums and tickets are doing fine and and the World keeps turning despite you two not being able to move on 27 years later... Queen were always one of the most commercially aware bands out there, promoting their tours and albums was highly orchestrated, we didn't have the internet but we had massive advertising campaigns in the music press, far more then most other bands, much more promotional work than others like Led Zep or Stones or The Who, so commercially they were right up there. Your constant repeating of the same stuff is completely futile, the band don't care what you think and it certainly won't change anything so much like King Canute screaming at the tide isn't going to stop it coming in... so good luck with that
Togg: Have to disagree with you about Queen been one of the most commercially aware bands because there were not, other bands were ahead of them like Abba The Police,
Madness, Culture Club, Duran Duran, Spandau Ballet etc........
Even in the 70s and 80s Queens ticket sales sold very fast but there was hardly a massive promotion campaign to sell the tickets.
Queen/Adam tickets have a massive over the top hyping campaign on facebook and even advertised on British tv, something that was never done in Freddies days, so now they can reach more people and sell more tickets for half the talent of Freddie & John !
Madness, Culture Club, Duran Duran, Spandau Ballet etc........
Even in the 70s and 80s Queens ticket sales sold very fast but there was hardly a massive promotion campaign to sell the tickets.
Queen/Adam tickets have a massive over the top hyping campaign on facebook and even advertised on British tv, something that was never done in Freddies days, so now they can reach more people and sell more tickets for half the talent of Freddie & John !
runner & happystar
Serious question, if this collaboration upsets you as much as it clearly does, why do you keep inflicting it on yourselves in the Q+AL part of the forum when there's the rest of the forum dedicated to Queen stuff where you could discuss all the Freddie & John related stuff you want?
Serious question, if this collaboration upsets you as much as it clearly does, why do you keep inflicting it on yourselves in the Q+AL part of the forum when there's the rest of the forum dedicated to Queen stuff where you could discuss all the Freddie & John related stuff you want?
happystar the internet provides instant access to every major bands tours. That's how it is now.
To say Queen weren't at the forefeet of advertising commercially in the 70's and 80's is very wide of the mark.
The 77 UK summer tour had full page advertising in the weekly music papers MM, NME, Sounds, Record Mirror etc As did the 78, 79, 80, etc. Knebworth in 86 had double page ad's all of the albums and singles in the UK from Killer Queen onwards again had full page ad's. Tours and albums were given bill board space too.
Had the internet existed back then they would have been all over that instead.
To say Queen weren't at the forefeet of advertising commercially in the 70's and 80's is very wide of the mark.
The 77 UK summer tour had full page advertising in the weekly music papers MM, NME, Sounds, Record Mirror etc As did the 78, 79, 80, etc. Knebworth in 86 had double page ad's all of the albums and singles in the UK from Killer Queen onwards again had full page ad's. Tours and albums were given bill board space too.
Had the internet existed back then they would have been all over that instead.
It's ironic that people who don't like QAL are being told to "move on" or "stop living in the past" while half of Queen play their Greatest hits setlists on every tour.
Holly2003 wrote:
It's ironic that people who don't like QAL are being told to "move on" or "stop living in the past" while half of Queen play their Greatest hits setlists on every tour.
Greatest Hits is their biggest selling album Its the album that made them able to sell concert tickets in the quantity they still do.
They've played a greatest hits set since 86. It what the biggest percentage of ticket buyers are expecting to hear.
The set list has changed since 2005 each time they've toured to a certain decree.
Saying move on from 1991 is valid just as playing what they play is. Ticket sales prove it