happystar
First Adam still considers himself a guest, as recently as an interview in Australia he called himself exactly that. No idea if that's how Brian & Roger see him or if that's just where he's coming from. Despite what you think of him he really doesn't want to be swallowed up as part of the band so probably uses that term to keep the distinction between working with Queen and doing his solo stuff.
He played a mixture of smaller theaters and larger venue's, some festivals, including the putra stadium in malaysia - 14,500 capacity on his first solo tour.
In my opinion Adam's music is so far away from Queen's there's no way I could imagine an audience of mostly Queen fans, even if casual fans, being happy with half of his music being played. I like some of Adam's solo stuff but I was glad they didn't even do the one song of his at the show I went to, I was there for Queen music. Their different styles just don't work together for me. The only song I think might have worked is Lucy, because Brian played on it, seems odd that wasn't the one they used IMO, would have been the logical choice.
When they put the idea to him it was presented as a one off thing and that's how he thought of it. In that context it's no different than what they've done with other artists like Tom Chaplin, George Michael etc. I'm sure he never expected it to grow legs like it did but since people kept wanting them to do more he'd be daft not to do it. It didn't happen overnight he'd been around in the public eye for nearly five years before they did a proper world tour.
You really do have a very different view of him than the majority of people.
The Paul Rodgers shows never had as much of a Queen feeling as the current shows.
The band lineup with a second guitarist (Jamie Mosses) gave the music a slightly different dynamic and certainly made Brian play differently. As you know the setlist was roughly two thirds Queen and a third Paul Rodgers. The production although big was really an average arena show. Which easily scaled down on the 2005 tour to fit into Brixton Academy.
The last two Lambert tours have been huge production wise, this one especially, 22 trucks is far bigger than anything they've toured with. That is what the ticket price is paying for ( although you haven't bought one but feel the need to moan about it). It takes about 140 people (touring and local crew combined) to set the show up, slightly more for the nights load out. Again hugely expensive.
The promoter sets the ticket price, not the band, he pays the band but also takes a cut, quite a big cut. Do expect everyone to work for nothing?
You've made your opinion heard over and over again, but if you look at world wide ticket sales there are plenty who disagree with you.
happystar
I really don't think the majority of fans see it that way at all. All the comments about the shows mention all the other stuff but rarely mention those things and the ones who do are saying they find it funny and love it. The vids make it seem a far larger part of the show than the reality, mainly because it seems to be Adam's fans that post the vids and they focus on him up close. In the scheme of the show those bits are a very small part and probably take up about ten minutes in total. The whole show isn't made up of silly things, far from it. As for Black Sabbath, AC/DC fans I wouldn't imagine they are at a Queen show. Incidentally the couch part hasn't been done on this tour.
I guess all those immediately sold out Shows in Britain this summer will be populated with foreigners! Surely can't be Brits buying those tickets. What about the big weekend festival show in Glasgow (I think?) in July? I guess there is no hope of selling that out. You must really be daft to think Brits don't care for them and it is Adam singing which is part of the draw. I read pretty much only rave reviews when QAL did the Big Ben New Year's show a few years ago. Who do you think is leaving those reviews? British people seem to really like Adam and QAL otherwise they would not keep selling out.
PS- If you preferred Aallto, you need a hearing check!! Adam takes his singing very seriously. You don't know squat about him if you don't realize that! He is a perfectionist and everything is thought out and there are no glitsches usually. The QAL show is made up of musical chapters so to speak and the one you keep moaning about is a small part of the whole. It is well received during the show and is supposed to be campy and out there. Then the band moves on to the next section of the show. They are not a one note band like so many of the boring bands of today. Thank goodness for that! Music is also supposed to be fun not all serious and boring!
happystar
I was pointing out that Adam's fans tend to film him close up, hence the stuff he does looks more in your face than it really is. It's hardly my fault that's what they do. As to AC/DC & Sabbath fans watching vids - not really sure why they would if they aren't Queen fans.
Here's a clip if you can be bothered to watch - Adam talking about doing the killer queen thing, he explains it better than I can. It's less than a minute long, don't need to watch the whole thing. https://youtu.be/53xXh9jtW2U?t=7m40s
I personally didn't like the X Factor thing, their voices just didn't work together at all.
Don't really know what you mean by the statement he's making. If you mean the camp thing in the show, that is clearly done in fun and not meant to be any kind of statement.
Why do Glamberts point out how many years since Freddie passed away? Do they think Queen fans here don't know about it?
[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]
Read the reviews, Dude, and all the tweets, instagrams, facbook and youtube comments. REAL Queen fans who have also seen them back in the day, LOVE THE SHOW!! You and your two or three cohorts here are in the very small minority of people who don't care for this. Great, we get it, but you sure are ugly about it. Go back and watch old Queen videos from back in the day. I will watch the current show as it is spectacular. It is more than just the singer, you know. It is the lights, the sound, the spectacle of it and there was nothing like it originally. The tech wasn't there, so if you prefer the original version of Queen, go watch it and quit complaining. No one is making you endure the current collaboration. Join your other buddies and watch the REGAL queen online![/QUOTE]
I've read plenty. Hasn't changed my mind. Only the music itself can do that. I don't know why you keep harping on about tweets, articles, etc, as if it's some kind of example you hold up that everyone likes the concerts.
That is exactly what it is, documentation, because people here imply that there are lots of people who aren't on board. That is fine if that is their opinion, but it isn't true of most concert goers nor real Queen fans if you read what is online. How else do you show that not everyone agrees with the negativity, that it isn't the majority of fans? In any kind of a debate there is always something that substantiates your POV. By the way nobody is trying to sway you, as that would be impossible (and perfectly fine!!).
[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]
That is exactly what it is, documentation, because people here imply that there are lots of people who aren't on board. That is fine if that is their opinion, but it isn't true of most concert goers nor real Queen fans if you read what is online. How else do you show that not everyone agrees with the negativity, that it isn't the majority of fans? In any kind of a debate there is always something that substantiates your POV. By the way nobody is trying to sway you, as that would be impossible (and perfectly fine!!). [/QUOTE]
Sure, there are lots of people who aren't on board? So what? Do you really expect everyone to love everything about the shows? That will never happen. Why is it so bloody important to/for you that people like the concerts?
Only the music can change my views...I may never like some things, but I liked something else a great deal, and even that's not good enough for you. It's either all or nothing for you , real life is rarely like that.
THose Glamtarts get wo worked up when someone criticizes the annoying goat. In their bubble world he is a rockstar (he is a sad plastic dance artist in real life) and a great singer (he sounds like a raped goat) and looks "magnificent" (like a 5 $ hooker ladyboy)
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]
THose Glamtarts get wo worked up when someone criticizes the annoying goat. In their bubble world he is a rockstar (he is a sad plastic dance artist in real life) and a great singer (he sounds like a raped goat) and looks "magnificent" (like a 5 $ hooker ladyboy)[/QUOTE]
Oh I know some of them do get very worked up.
No comment on the raped goat comment. But I do wish Brian and Roger could do a sort of an unplugged type of concert, even a couple of times to see how it would be without the bells and whistles.
Unplugged would never work as Queen was always about being over the top. They just should get back on track an realise how ridiculous this collaboration was/is. I dont expect an apology but every sane person is just laughing about them teaming up with this guy. Joe Public in the concerts doesnt care but the serious music lover is cringing with embarrassment
Really - every sane person? That's an awful lot of people you're classifying as insane. Are you seriously saying no serious music fans go to the shows? And what about the other musicians from bands that turn up at them, are they all insane as well? And before you say it, no I wasn't talking about Boy George.
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]
Unplugged would never work as Queen was always about being over the top. They just should get back on track an realise how ridiculous this collaboration was/is. I dont expect an apology but every sane person is just laughing about them teaming up with this guy. Joe Public in the concerts doesnt care but the serious music lover is cringing with embarrassment[/QUOTE]
Nah, not always were Queen about being over the top. LOML, ITTWC, YTMB, GC, DOOL, just some of the songs I think could be good for an Unplugged type of show.
I think Brian especially is sticking to his guns about AL. But what Brian says sometimes, for examples AL is the best singer, shows are better than it was with Freddie etc, I guess anything to hype AL and the shows up. Things like that, plus the fact many Glamberts eat it up...not a good thing.
I'm sane...kinda LOL.
Seems to me what Brian says gets taken out of context a lot. He didn't say the shows are better than with Freddie, he said it's as good as anything we did in the old days, but in the context of the whole interview he was meaning from a playing and production point of view, meaning it's not just a watered down version of a Queen show and they still have all the bells & whistles.
