Sebastian, if you don't know the reason of John's retirement then how come you are so categorically - "no, it wasn't a matter of 'the man is gone, I'm out of here!'"?
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Because Frederick died in 1991 and John didn't immediately retire - it took him years, rather than months or weeks, to do so. So, whatever the reason was, it wasn't a matter of 'the man is gone, I'm out of here.'
I don't *think* John spent weeks rehearsing the tribute (after Fred had kicked it), months recording the posthumous album (after Frederick was long gone), I *know* he did. I don't *believe* John appeared at a 1993 live gig with Roger (as 'Queen'), I know he did. I don't *guess* or *speculate* John played on 'No-One Buy You' and the Elton John thing, I'm aware there's overwhelming evidence that he did.
All of that took place after Frederick had passed away, so, whatever the reason was, it wasn't a matter of 'the man is gone, I'm out of here.'
aristide1 · Member since
It's hard to follow your logic about John's last steps in Queen - the tribute and the posthumous album.
To me, his serious involvement in Frederick's legacy anticipates clearly his final move - "the man is gone, I'm out of here".
Sebastian · Member since
He wasn't out - he still took part of those projects, those involving Frederick's memory and those not related to him (the 1993 gig, Elton's performance).
So, no: he didn't leave as soon as Frederick died. He left long afterwards.
Invisible Woman · Member since
Only John knows why decided to retire from music and why he didn't continued to works with Queen.
Maybe didn't see himself no longer in music, maybe have realized that without Freddie it was all different, who knows.
I belive that he probably had good reason for that desicion.
Apocalipsis_Darko · Member since
Reinhold Mack told me, John did Made in heaven because John felt Freddie deserved a last tribute. Also told me John get tired from Brian. Well, is a person who knows very well John.
There is other thing, George Michael was one day in the sessions of Made In Heaven, Ash Alexander wrote about that. So there were a lot of speculations at the time....I know why George didnt sing in Made In Heaven, but I will keep it for my Queen book.
mooghead · Member since
"It's hard to follow your logic about John's last steps in Queen - the tribute and the posthumous album.
To me, his serious involvement in Frederick's legacy anticipates clearly his final move - "the man is gone, I'm out of here". "
Please don't call him 'Frederick' like the other prick who has such a sense of self importance that he feels he has the right...
Star* · Member since
What ever the reason for Johns absence from Queen he made the right decision. At least no one can laugh at him for been a berk on stage with an American idol tosser who and two old desperados.
Chopin1995 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Apocalipsis_Darko wrote:[/b]
Reinhold Mack told me, John did Made in heaven because John felt Freddie deserved a last tribute. Also told me John get tired from Brian. Well, is a person who knows very well John.[/QUOTE]
Makes sense to me.
Sebastian · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]mooghead wrote:[/b]
Please don't call him 'Frederick' like the other prick who has such a sense of self importance that he feels he has the right...[/QUOTE]
We've all got the right to use a person's name. I'm sorry you feel like offending me and accusing me of having 'such a sense of self importance' just because I call him 'Frederick', as if that were such a crime.
At the end of the day, his name was Frederick, so calling him that way is correct. Calling him Fred, Freddie, Farrokh, Mr Mercury, Lord Teeth, etc., is also correct.
I'm not a prick. Corrupt politicians are pricks. Wife beaters are pricks. Burglars are pricks. I'm just a person who types 'Frederick' instead of 'Freddie'. That's not even in the 1,000,000,000 most relevant or pivotal actions or decisions going on at this very moment.
Take care.
Stick · Member since
Hahaha Lord Teeth!
Your Fairy King · Member since
John Deacon is the obvious choice. I've lost all respect for Brian and Roger trotting out their greatest hits tour with a voice better suited for Broadway show tunes. Among the departed, Frederick is the obvious choice, because at this point - despite the fact that I've always believed Queen was the perfect sum of its parts - at this point it is evident that Roger and Brian are pretty clueless about what Queen really was as a band.
mooghead · Member since
"At the end of the day, his name was Frederick, so calling him that way is correct. Calling him Fred, Freddie, Farrokh, Mr Mercury, Lord Teeth, etc., is also correct. "
I suppose it is John, James, George and Richard with you is it?
Sebastian · Member since
Well, James' middle-name is Paul, so they're both fine. I don't think I've ever referred to him as Jimmy McCartney, though. I might... thanks for the idea!
Holly2003 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Your Fairy King wrote:[/b]
John Deacon is the obvious choice. I've lost all respect for Brian and Roger trotting out their greatest hits tour with a voice better suited for Broadway show tunes. Among the departed, Frederick is the obvious choice, because at this point - despite the fact that I've always believed Queen was the perfect sum of its parts - [b]at this point it is evident that Roger and Brian are pretty clueless about what Queen really was as a band.[/b] [/QUOTE]
Potentially very interesting point. Can you elaborate?
Sebastian · Member since
They were about making money, and they're making money. They were about playing live, and they're playing live. I don't see the problem...