John Deacon is the obvious choice. I've lost all respect for Brian and Roger trotting out their greatest hits tour with a voice better suited for Broadway show tunes. Among the departed, Frederick is the obvious choice, because at this point - despite the fact that I've always believed Queen was the perfect sum of its parts - [b]at this point it is evident that Roger and Brian are pretty clueless about what Queen really was as a band.[/b] [/QUOTE]
Potentially very interesting point. Can you elaborate?
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Two thirds of Smile performing mainly Queen hits, using their former Queen frontman as a totem to sell tickets...
It seems likely that Brian thinks Queen is his band. He put out the ad that Roger replied to. But Smile failed and Fred was the driving force behind the band Queen. And although he enjoyed the success, fan adoration and cash, I don't think Brian ever forgave Fred for that. In their respective solo careers, Brian is the only one who desperately tried to create the Queen sound. His solo career failed. He couldn't bear that John and Roger worked on MiH without him so he took over that project, and that probably contributed to John calling it a day after No One But You. Musically, Brian has been treading water for 20 years. The only good tracks he's been involved in since the 1990s is Some Things That Glitter, The Call and Invincible Hope. He hasn't composed a good guitar solo since Innuendo.
So I think you're wrong: Brian HASN'T forgotten what made Queen the band it was. It was Fred! And Brian's been living off that legacy since his solo career bombed.
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I think you're being a bit harsh on Brian....He always talks in high regard of Freddie. I don't see the Jelously thing, if anything he praises Freddie's work more than anyones. I do think they were all Important, But Freddie and Brian were the most crucial to their success. Think about it, since the last recordings of Mercury were finished in 1995 what have they recorded of substance? 4 good songs in how many years? Freddie was that Important. Of course Brian and Roger know that.
rockchic65 · Member since
^^^^ Totally agree, I really don't understand all the flack Brian gets, I've seen comments everywhere about Brian being jealous of Freddie but I don't get that impression.
Star* · Member since
Personally i disagree, because Brian has been pretty nasty in recent interviews saying things like "Adam is the gift from god" and Adam can reach higher notes than Freddie ever could ! You do not say things like that because that is just disrespecting everything Freddie stood for. Brian has crowed on for over 10 years hyping Lambert to get him the attention and he never ever praised Freddie from the roof tops like he has with Lambert. He has lost all of my respect now. Mercury is the greatest male rock singer but Brian just wants to crow on about a an American idol reject, well that puts it all in to perspective ! We all know where May's priorities lie dont we.
rockchic65 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]happystar wrote:[/b]
Personally i disagree, because Brian has been pretty nasty in recent interviews saying things like "Adam is the gift from god" and Adam can reach higher notes than Freddie ever could ! You do not say things like that because that is just disrespecting everything Freddie stood for. Brian has crowed on for over 10 years hyping Lambert to get him the attention and he never ever praised Freddie from the roof tops like he has with Lambert. He has lost all of my respect now. Mercury is the greatest male rock singer but Brian just wants to crow on about a an American idol reject, well that puts it all in to perspective ! We all know where May's priorities lie dont we.[/QUOTE]
I think you may have been missed some of the things he's said in interviews to be honest happystar, I saw one where he was talking about Freddie and he said "I don't think even we realized how good he actually was back then". I've seen several where he talks about Freddie, says there's not a day goes by they don't think of him in some way. He does praise Adam and I get the impression they both genuinely like and respect him but that doesn't take anything away from how they felt/feel about Freddie. He's the guy giving them the chance to still be out there doing what they love and he's easy to be around.
I saw a YouTube comment on a QAL video about Adam that kind of sums it up to me - "I feel like he's my stepdad.... I want to hate him for taking my dad's place , but deep inside I kinda know that he's the best mom could do under the circumstances".? IMO you can love/like/admire more than one person, and it doesn't mean you ever forget them or that someone replaces them, but you have to move on and do the best you can.
As to him saying Adam can reach higher notes, I think isolated comments he's made taken out of context sound worse than if you actually hear the whole interview. He actually said he can sing higher in a live situation and it's true, but then he naturally has a higher voice, Freddie sang in a higher key than his natural voice was set, so in the studio it's fine, but touring it's bound to take it's toll if you try to do that night after night. Added to that Freddie developed nodules which further impeded his ability to hit the high notes live. I sometimes think Brian says things without realizing just how they might sound to someone else, but I don't get the feeling he's meaning to slight Freddie at all.
Star* · Member since
Brian does have a habit of talking utter crap without realising what he said.
There again he also says things to benefit himself to get tickets and records sold.
He certainly knows how to milk the public to get what he wants.
Lambert has been Brians own little project for a number of years, and he has hyped and hyped Lambert in every interview he has done, without little regard
to Freddie's fan base. Personally i think Brian feel easier that Freddie is not around around anymore as Mercury always dismissed a lot of Mays & Taylors ideas as "ridiculous"
But Freddie did keep the band classy, but now Queen have so many musicians playing with them its hard to call them Queen.
mike hunt · Member since
Brian said the same about Rodgers...praising him constantly when they worked together. How did that turn out? Brian hasn't mentioned him since. Brian is Just selling his newest brand. A guy who hits high notes, but has no originality or substance. Brian is smart enough too know what made Freddie great isn't about the high notes. It's about delivery....listen to Dragon Attack with Lambert and how embarrassing it sounds. Truly horrible as a rock singer. I seen enough Interviews with Brian about Freddie and That's all I hear is praise. Watch the ANATO Doc and how he loves the creation of love Of My Life and No RHap, or his love of his songs in thr later years like The Miracle and Made In Heaven. I hear no Jelously. I really don't.
mike hunt · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]mike hunt wrote:[/b]
Brian said the same about Rodgers...praising him constantly when they worked together. How did that turn out? Brian hasn't mentioned him since. Brian is Just selling his newest brand. A guy who hits high notes, but has no originality or substance. Brian is smart enough too know what made Freddie great isn't about the high notes. It's about delivery....listen to Dragon Attack with Lambert and how embarrassing it sounds. Truly horrible as a rock singer. I seen enough Interviews with Brian about Freddie and That's all I hear is praise. Watch the ANATO Doc and how he loves the creation of love Of My Life and No RHap, or his love of his songs in thr later years like The Miracle and Made In Heaven. [/QUOTE]
Sebastian · Member since
Brian praising Adam doesn't preclude Brian honouring or respecting Frederick.
He's still a human being and, as such, he's probably not too far off the undetermined amount of lies the average person tells every day. Being a PhD and a magnificent (May-estic) musician doesn't guard him from normal human behaviour. He gets thirsty, he ages, he has to go for a wee, he probably laughs at some lame puns or memes and he's probably fallen for the odd click-bait once in a while.
He also misremembers, exaggerates and embellishes stories like any other human being (e.g. 'there'd be no "Thriller" without "Hot Space"'), but I doubt there's any particular agenda behind it.
Whatever Queen were/are/will-be about, there's no reason to think he doesn't know it, let alone to think we know it better than he does. If Roger ever claims Brian's got no idea of Queen, then fair enough, it's between them; same if John ever says so. The three of them are up there... the rest of us are not.
Holly2003 · Member since
By that bizarre logic only politicians can talk about politics, only weather forecasters can talk about the weather etc.
Sebastian · Member since
Er, no. I didn't say we're not allowed to talk about Queen, I said we're not more qualified than (former) Queen members to establish what Queen were/are/will-be about.
Stardust Parade · Member since
To be honest, I really like them all! I love watching Brian jam on the guitar and Roger play the drums, and John is cool I guess (although he always seems to be in the background whenever I watch videos of their past shows).
But I if I had to pick ONE, I'm jumping on the Freddie bandwagon because he was such an amazing performer. I get chills up my spin whenever I watch one of the videos of him singing Bohemian Rhapsody. It's amazing seeing someone sing with that much passion.
Again though, I love them all! It's hard to pick just one.
bucsateflon · Member since
Freddie without Queen would have been somewhere between MJ and Elton John, which is pretty lame.