QAL Europe/UK Tour — 2018

SweetCaroline wrote:

OMG that was awful. I never saw Freddie sitting on Superman’s shoulders. Was that considered “classy?”

It was considered a part of the show that lasted for a few minutes, if that. What is s awful about it? Sitting on shoulders is nothing new.

Icy, your HYPOCRISY is showing!! Really, how much longer is the sitting on the head for KQ and the bike is less than no time at all! This is exactly what I mean about Queen fans excusing anything Freddie did and yet lesser things trigger their hate and scorn. The thing is that the outfit was totally weird, on top of a weird Superman of all things? Makes no sense at all to me! Definitely think that part should have been taken out ASAP! Just my POV! Actually, I don't care, it was a part of a show, but for me, it is much weirder than anything Adam has done. YMMV.

snifflese wrote:

Icy, your HYPOCRISY is showing!! Really, how much longer is the sitting on the head for KQ and the bike is less than no time at all! This is exactly what I mean about Queen fans excusing anything Freddie did and yet lesser things trigger their hate and scorn. The thing is that the outfit was totally weird, on top of a weird Superman of all things? Makes no sense at all to me! Definitely think that part should have been taken out ASAP! Just my POV! Actually, I don't care, it was a part of a show, but for me, it is much weirder than anything Adam has done. YMMV.

No, I'm not a hypocrite. Freddie sitting on anyone's shoulders is no big deal to me. I dont understand why you and sweetcaroline think it's so awful and tacky? Is it because of the costumes or the fact that he was sitting on another man's shoulders? It's hardly offensiv, it's probably one of the least offensive things I can think of.Why should it have been removed? Come on, snifflese, I think you are better than this.
Superman was mentioned in Bicycle Race. So was Star Wars. Maybe that's why Freddie did it? I never heard him explain it, so I am assuming. I have never heard of any outrage about it in all my years of being a Queen fan before today.
And it's known AL kissed a same sex band member on the AMA Awards broadcast and put his face near someone's crotch. Just wondering what you think about that. And before you call me a hypocrite again,that was no big deal to me either. I do find it odd the reactions here by you and sweetcaroline of Freddie sitting on someone's shoulders.

Bye icy, see you in September! Don’t miss torturing me too much! LOLOL

Iron Butterfly wrote:

inu-liger wrote:
Caroline, if only you knew how many people specifically mentioned you rather disdainfully while I was chatting with people in the queue pre-show at Rotterdam last week whenever the topic of Queenzone came up...

Ouch LOL.

Ouch indeed, and I wish I were exaggerating, but I’m not.

no wonder ...... she clearly lost it - like Maylor did when they opted for the goat

runner_70 wrote:
no wonder ...... she clearly lost it - like Maylor did when they opted for the goat

Mental health speculation aside, you weren’t spared attention either. I recall you were mentioned at least twice when people were discussing the bad apples that makes this website and the Queen fandom look bad to the rest of the public. The people we interacted with over these conversations included people who aren’t participating members of QZ, not that I expect you will care anyway.

SweetCaroline wrote:

Bye icy, see you in September! Don’t miss torturing me too much! LOLOL

Why bye? Is your 'break' over from QOL over now? Either way, you won't let up wherever you go about all things AL. What will you do in the meantime, spam about him,, post about what he does in his downtime, fit him anywhere you can, all things you have done before ;-).
I don't say you could try to discuss Freddie with Queen in the meantime because some of what Freddie did was "awful" according to you. Thank f**k you didn't try to discuss Freddie and Queen much, because when you do, you prove what a hypocrite you are. Oh yeah, Freddie sitting on shoulders is so awful and OMG you posted earlier today,...yea only you would think that. You aren't a Queen fan if you are so taken aback by that. Bloody hypocrite and grandma who cluches her pearls by Freddie on someone's shoulders, boy so very easy for you to be insulted, LOL. No damn wonder why the people inu liger talked with had things to say about you. At best you are a hypocrite, the worst you are, is that you are full of shit.

inu-liger wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

inu-liger wrote:
Caroline, if only you knew how many people specifically mentioned you rather disdainfully while I was chatting with people in the queue pre-show at Rotterdam last week whenever the topic of Queenzone came up...

Ouch LOL.

Ouch indeed, and I wish I were exaggerating, but I’m not.

I trust you that you weren't exaggerating. She really does no favours for AL, the Glamberts or herself. She will never get that, because you know it's still all my fault for what she does.

SweetCaroline wrote:

OMG that was awful. I never saw Freddie sitting on Superman’s shoulders. Was that considered “classy?”

You really are something else. Keep clutching your pearls, grandma. ;-)

There is llittle difference between that and Adam sitting on Frank and yet you go on and on and on about it. Adam's outfit is definitely classier than that sparkle thing Freddie was wearing. There is a reason Frank is in the show, a clear reason and it is funny that Adam sits on him. I don't get the difference. I don't really have a problem with either, but the Freddie youtube looked really tacky to me. I guess just different view points and don't bring in the AMA's, as that has no relation to Queen whatsoever. You could justify anything Freddie does, just as a Glambert will justify what QAL and Adam do. When you can finally see that, you will have arrived!!!

snifflese wrote:

There is llittle difference between that and Adam sitting on Frank and yet you go on and on and on about it. Adam's outfit is definitely classier than that sparkle thing Freddie was wearing. There is a reason Frank is in the show, a clear reason and it is funny that Adam sits on him. I don't get the difference. I don't really have a problem with either, but the Freddie youtube looked really tacky to me. I guess just different view points and don't bring in the AMA's, as that has no relation to Queen whatsoever. You could justify anything Freddie does, just as a Glambert will justify what QAL and Adam do. When you can finally see that, you will have arrived!!!

I don't know if you realise how iconic Frank was to Queen's history. No need for AL to take the piss out of it by his head 'jokes' while sitting on Frank. That's beyond crass, IMO.
As for what Freddie and AL were and are wearing. Both have their own styles. I much prefer Freddie's style most of the time, it suited the eras he was in. Sometimes it worked, sometimes not. Really that sliver outfit and white shorts seems to bother some Glamberts. Why? Because I never thought skin being shown was such a big deal. Or is it a big deal because Freddie wore it? I've seen plenty of posts from sweetcaroline saying how gorgeous, sexy, etc she thinks AL is. Yet, it's awful and OMG that Freddie wore and what he did and what he did in the video rockchic posted. I don't think she understands Freddie at all given the fact that bothers her so much.
I actually don't like that sliver costume, there was a similar red one Freddie wore that was much better, IMO.
No, I don't justify everything Freddie did. Not sure why you think that? I hate the look he had for CLTCL for example, I think the whole video was just cheap, yep even tacky. But I could see why it was done for the whole vibe that it was going for. And despite my not liking it, it worked.
Some Glamberts are so quick to try to discredit Freddie while bigging up AL. The hypocrisy is staggering. I have read that on AL related places on the web for years, but to see it on Queen boards...is something else. Not good at all. And some wonder why some Glamberts are talked about.

Well, I guess if you don't understand why the Video from rockchic bothered her, we don't understand why everything about Adam pretty much bothers you! Same difference, which I can see, but you just don't see that. I don't think she was bothered by it, nor was I. It was just an example to show that Freddie could wear bizarre clothes and do bizarre things. But to Queen fans, it is all OK. But Adam for some reason isn't given free rein like Freddie is. I don't know how much clearer I can state that. I just find it funny that nobody but Freddie can do outlandish stuff. If anyone else does, it is crass and unbecoming to the music and a gimmick, etc, etc, etc. I think it is just selective rationalization. All the antics and costumes fit into the persona of Queen past and present, in my opinion.

This has nothing to do with "bigging Adam up". To me it is a matter of what is good for the goose, is good for the gander. You can't criticixe one person, when the other one does pretty much the same thing! That is the way that I view this. I really find it funny, to be honest. I applaud Freddie in all his craziness and I am glad Adam feels comfortable enough to let his freak flag fly. I don't know what else to say! Who wants to be like somebody else? You have to be yourself and I think that is what has happened here.

Surely Adam is not given free reign cause it is not his shitshow. He is destroying QUeen songs with his godawful voice and more over is acting like a twat doesnt help. Freddie looked ridiculous from time to time as well but he did it tongue in cheek. Moreover he wrote most of the songs had a great voice and did not take himself seriously as the annoying tool does. Just look at him when is is wearing his crown.

snifflese wrote:

Well, I guess if you don't understand why the Video from rockchic bothered her, we don't understand why everything about Adam pretty much bothers you! Same difference, which I can see, but you just don't see that. I don't think she was bothered by it, nor was I. It was just an example to show that Freddie could wear bizarre clothes and do bizarre things. But to Queen fans, it is all OK. But Adam for some reason isn't given free rein like Freddie is. I don't know how much clearer I can state that. I just find it funny that nobody but Freddie can do outlandish stuff. If anyone else does, it is crass and unbecoming to the music and a gimmick, etc, etc, etc. I think it is just selective rationalization. All the antics and costumes fit into the persona of Queen past and present, in my opinion.

This has nothing to do with "bigging Adam up". To me it is a matter of what is good for the goose, is good for the gander. You can't criticixe one person, when the other one does pretty much the same thing! That is the way that I view this. I really find it funny, to be honest. I applaud Freddie in all his craziness and I am glad Adam feels comfortable enough to let his freak flag fly. I don't know what else to say! Who wants to be like somebody else? You have to be yourself and I think that is what has happened here.

But why did that video bother sweetcaroline enough to say The OMG that was awful? She hasn't explained that. Was it because f the costume or what Freddie wore, or both? It's hardly offensive.
I don't think rockchic was bothered by the video and what was worn and what Freddie did in the video. Even though you don't like it either, I don't think you are offended by it.
I'd like sweetcaroline to explain her reaction to it. It's pretty harmless what Freddie wore and did, so I don't understand sweetcarolines reaction about it at all.
AL should not have free reign in these shows. Except for one song, the rest of the music isn't his. Sometimes it looks like he is taking the piss out thngs. The giving head 'jokes', the ending somebody to love banter, the fat bitches etc. That doesn't come across as funny to me. It's like he is trying too hard to be funny...and he isn't funny when he does it. Something it's like he is taking the piss out of things not Queen history, the Coronet, and Frank especially.
Except for one song in these Q+AL shows, it's not an AL solo concert. I don't think he ever should have free reign.
I don't know if you know this about me, but I'm a bit Elton John and Bowie fan. Both of them sure have been outlandish in their live shows, I never said only Freddie was outlandish. Freddie, EJ and Bowie were groundbreakers in many ways. Live, fashion wise, in the studio, pretty groundbreaking I say. AL is pretty stale compared to those three artists.
What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Freddie and AL have been pretty out there at times with what the wore, and how they wore it. For me, and IMO, one of those artists came across as much more genuine and natural. The other guy it's like he is reading and acting out a script.