[QUOTE] [b]Iron Butterfly wrote:[/b]
But why did that video bother sweetcaroline enough to say The OMG that was awful? She hasn't explained that. Was it because f the costume or what Freddie wore, or both? It's hardly offensive.
I don't think rockchic was bothered by the video and what was worn and what Freddie did in the video. Even though you don't like it either, I don't think you are offended by it.
I'd like sweetcaroline to explain her reaction to it. It's pretty harmless what Freddie wore and did, so I don't understand sweetcarolines reaction about it at all.
AL should not have free reign in these shows. Except for one song, the rest of the music isn't his. Sometimes it looks like he is taking the piss out thngs. The giving head 'jokes', the ending somebody to love banter, the fat bitches etc. That doesn't come across as funny to me. It's like he is trying too hard to be funny...and he isn't funny when he does it. Something it's like he is taking the piss out of things not Queen history, the Coronet, and Frank especially.
Except for one song in these Q+AL shows, it's not an AL solo concert. I don't think he ever should have free reign.
I don't know if you know this about me, but I'm a bit Elton John and Bowie fan. Both of them sure have been outlandish in their live shows, I never said only Freddie was outlandish. Freddie, EJ and Bowie were groundbreakers in many ways. Live, fashion wise, in the studio, pretty groundbreaking I say. AL is pretty stale compared to those three artists.
What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Freddie and AL have been pretty out there at times with what the wore, and how they wore it. For me, and IMO, one of those artists came across as much more genuine and natural. The other guy it's like he is reading and acting out a script. [/QUOTE]
No it didn't bother me in the slightest I only posted it because of runner and happystar going on ad nauseam about Adam's clothes.
I don't think Adam has free reign completely but he definitely has a lot of input and although the robot and staging weren't his idea I'd hazard a guess the Killer Queen part probably was. I know he runs ideas by Brian & Roger and if there was something they really hated I'm sure it wouldn't end up in the show but they've all said he has a lot of freedom in the way he chooses to sing, act etc, IMO it couldn't work any other way, you can't be restricted and thinking is this okay all the time.
I don't see Adam as not genuine at all but I would say he was more free in his solo shows naturally, since he had complete freedom to do whatever he wanted however he wanted and no one else to consult.
From reading all the feedback of the shows for the last few weeks no one mentions any of the stuff he does, they all mention how respectful to Freddie and the band he is and all say he's fun, to me that means they don't take any of the stuff with the robot or the bike seriously and Adam certainly doesn't. Like I've said previously those things only take up a very small part in the show and definitely come across differently live which is why hardly anyone seems to think anything of it, even the die hard fans.
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]
Surely Adam is not given free reign cause it is not his shitshow. He is destroying QUeen songs with his godawful voice and more over is acting like a twat doesnt help. Freddie looked ridiculous from time to time as well but he did it tongue in cheek. Moreover he wrote most of the songs had a great voice and did not take himself seriously as the annoying tool does. Just look at him when is is wearing his crown. [/QUOTE]
He does have a lot of freedom in the shows and no idea why you keep saying he takes himself seriously, anyone who knows anything about him knows that's the last thing he does, he laughs at himself all the time and does a lot of stuff just to make people laugh.
5 Star review for QAL at Glasgow:
http://www.list.co.uk/article/101872-live-review-trnsmt-glasgow-fri-6-jul/
Well, I am going to do Caroline one better and post the review with the Queen part. This is a festival, compared against other groups and other years and they blew everyone out of the water. There was glee on the Queen forums that it wasn't selling and no one wanted to see them. Not so! There were 40,000 people left wanting more. Maybe runner and Happystar should actually read this, as they always say everything we post is made up. QAL ended with a bang and they are killer when they perform. Quit pretending it ain't so!!
Queen + Adam Lambert (?????) make other bands look lazy. The hit rate is phenomenal. Ridiculously overblown rock classics pretty much from start to finish. Keeping it old school with opener 'Seven Seas of Rhye' then come 'Play the Game', 'Fat Bottomed Girls', 'Killer Queen', 'Don't Stop Me Now' and 'Bicycle Race' in quick succession. It's exciting, exhilarating and infectious, these are anthems built for stadiums and festivals. Big life affirming celebrations of excess and rock grandeur, matched by a huge theatrical production with lazers, smoke, giant robots, disco balls, hydraulic platforms and a pink tricycle.
For such an astounding, technical guitarist, Brian May always looks so calm and composed as he reels off classic riffs and glorious solos. Adam Lambert knows how to work a crowd, it's cheeky, funny and a little bit saucy but his voice is outstanding. Crisp, clear and powerful it's exactly what's needed to bring such massive tunes to life. There will always be pedantic purists who whinge about lineup changes and authenticity but Queen openly acknowledge this is a new chapter. Everyone misses Freddie Mercury and there are tributes and video footage throughout the show. What's great about Lambert is that he never tries to impersonate Freddie but there's something about his performance that captures his spirit, flamboyance and showmanship. Roger Taylor also gets his time in the spotlight as a drum kit pops up at the end of the runway for a drum battle and to share vocals on 'Under Pressure'.
May takes centre stage for a 10 minute guitar solo before 'The Show Must Go On', 'Radio Ga Ga' and 'Bohemian Rhapsody' ended their main set in truly epic style. The encore of 'We Will Rock You' and 'We Are the Champions', with its handclaps and huge singalong choruses, surely reverberated through the tower blocks that dominate the skyline across the Clyde, the majesty of rock writ large across Glasgow Green.
The ? marks on the review above are supposed to be stars. Not sure why they weren't shown as stars, but they were actually 5 RED stars! Happy Star and Runner check out the vocals part!
His voice is outstanding. Crisp, clear, and POWERFUL (not thin and weak!!!). Pretty good at an outdoor festival where the accoustics aren't in your favor. This review totally refutes all the crap you keep posting, just like the other million posts over the years. Note that QAL are getting more reviews and more positive, not dying because they are lousy!!
WHo you wanna impress with this crap??? When Queen were Queen they got awful reviews and they were amazing. Now it is vice versa No big deal. And you know who is paying those pple for favourable reviews dont ya? "Gimme one positive review and you' ll get future photopasses and we will place an ad" - welcome to 2018
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[QUOTE] [b]Iron Butterfly wrote:[/b]
But why did that video bother sweetcaroline enough to say The OMG that was awful? She hasn't explained that. Was it because f the costume or what Freddie wore, or both? It's hardly offensive.
I don't think rockchic was bothered by the video and what was worn and what Freddie did in the video. Even though you don't like it either, I don't think you are offended by it.
I'd like sweetcaroline to explain her reaction to it. It's pretty harmless what Freddie wore and did, so I don't understand sweetcarolines reaction about it at all.
AL should not have free reign in these shows. Except for one song, the rest of the music isn't his. Sometimes it looks like he is taking the piss out thngs. The giving head 'jokes', the ending somebody to love banter, the fat bitches etc. That doesn't come across as funny to me. It's like he is trying too hard to be funny...and he isn't funny when he does it. Something it's like he is taking the piss out of things not Queen history, the Coronet, and Frank especially.
Except for one song in these Q+AL shows, it's not an AL solo concert. I don't think he ever should have free reign.
I don't know if you know this about me, but I'm a bit Elton John and Bowie fan. Both of them sure have been outlandish in their live shows, I never said only Freddie was outlandish. Freddie, EJ and Bowie were groundbreakers in many ways. Live, fashion wise, in the studio, pretty groundbreaking I say. AL is pretty stale compared to those three artists.
What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Freddie and AL have been pretty out there at times with what the wore, and how they wore it. For me, and IMO, one of those artists came across as much more genuine and natural. The other guy it's like he is reading and acting out a script. [/QUOTE]
No it didn't bother me in the slightest I only posted it because of runner and happystar going on ad nauseam about Adam's clothes.
I don't think Adam has free reign completely but he definitely has a lot of input and although the robot and staging weren't his idea I'd hazard a guess the Killer Queen part probably was. I know he runs ideas by Brian & Roger and if there was something they really hated I'm sure it wouldn't end up in the show but they've all said he has a lot of freedom in the way he chooses to sing, act etc, IMO it couldn't work any other way, you can't be restricted and thinking is this okay all the time.
I don't see Adam as not genuine at all but I would say he was more free in his solo shows naturally, since he had complete freedom to do whatever he wanted however he wanted and no one else to consult.
From reading all the feedback of the shows for the last few weeks no one mentions any of the stuff he does, they all mention how respectful to Freddie and the band he is and all say he's fun, to me that means they don't take any of the stuff with the robot or the bike seriously and Adam certainly doesn't. Like I've said previously those things only take up a very small part in the show and definitely come across differently live which is why hardly anyone seems to think anything of it, even the die hard fans.
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You don't seem the type to be easily offended or insulted by what Freddie wore or did. Thank f**k someone is reasonable here.
I just wish AL didn't take the piss out of Frank and the Coronet. Both have deep meaning in Queen history. I can bet if it even looked like some people were taking the piss out of AL, some Glamberts would not be happy.
There are many differences of course between AL with Brian and Roger and his own solo shows. I can understandt why he did what he did with his own shows, but his Q+AL persona comes across at times as bad acting, IMO. As a Queen fan, I can't help but wish it was more about the music.
[QUOTE] [b]Iron Butterfly wrote:[/b]
You don't seem the type to be easily offended or insulted by what Freddie wore or did. Thank f**k someone is reasonable here.
I just wish AL didn't take the piss out of Frank and the Coronet. Both have deep meaning in Queen history. I can bet if it even looked like some people were taking the piss out of AL, some Glamberts would not be happy.
There are many differences of course between AL with Brian and Roger and his own solo shows. I can understandt why he did what he did with his own shows, but his Q+AL persona comes across at times as bad acting, IMO. As a Queen fan, I can't help but wish it was more about the music. [/QUOTE]
No I'm not easily bothered by things people do especially when it's done tongue in cheek and for fun. I really don't get the impression Adam is taking the piss with Frank it's his dorky sense of humour, he even says it in the show, making fun of his own dad jokes etc. I'm pretty sure the coronet is meant to denote being lower down the rank than Freddie, i.e. Freddie wore a crown (king) where Adam wears a coronet (Prince) and also pay homage to him at the same time. I guess not everyone gets the way his mind works.
One of the reviews actually said "Lambert is utterly respectful of Freddie Mercury's position in the eyes of fans, and chooses to have fun with his role rather than try to imitate the late singer". I'd say that sums up how I see what he does.
I think Inu was confusing me with icy in that queue line because she is the one who is ridiculously annoying in this forum. Freddie can do no wrong and Adam can do no right!
I think they both have been exceptional entertainers. It doesn’t matter that Adam didn’t write the Queen songs. He has breathed new life into the production and everyone gets along and has fun doing it. Seeing Brian riding in the back of that golf cart with a big smile on his face was a hoot!
What has riding in a golfcar to to with Lamebird being any good? Glamtart logic right? He didn t breath new life into the Queen vehicle he sucked the energy out of it with his godawful girls voice and his stage manners like a retarded clown on dope
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
I think Inu was confusing me with icy in that queue line because she is the one who is ridiculously annoying in this forum. Freddie can do no wrong and Adam can do no right!
I think they both have been exceptional entertainers. It doesn’t matter that Adam didn’t write the Queen songs. He has breathed new life into the production and everyone gets along and has fun doing it. Seeing Brian riding in the back of that golf cart with a big smile on his face was a hoot![/QUOTE]
Wasn't it obvious who Inu was speaking about in his post? He even mentioned your name, so no confusion there.
And so much for your bye until September. Again.
You think it doesn't matter AL didn't write the Queen songs. You would say that, wouldn't you, because all that matters for you is that AL is the one singing the Queen songs. You are literally blind to Queen history, either you don't want to know or care to know about it. Your reaction when Freddie was on someone's shoulders and wearing that costume, sure made you clutch your pearls and made you freak out. Good thing you aren't a Queen fan after all.
You are the new who thinks no matter what happens n Q+AL, AL is perfect, magnificent, spectacular, magical. It took you weeks to admit to yourself when AL screwed up lyrics, because you couldn't hear it or realise it even it was pointed out to you.
I never said Freddie could do no wrong by the way.
[QUOTE] [b]inu-liger wrote:[/b]
Caroline, if only you knew how many people specifically mentioned you rather disdainfully while I was chatting with people in the queue pre-show at Rotterdam last week whenever the topic of Queenzone came up...[/QUOTE]
He mentioned you by name, sweetcaroline. Proof in the post here.
Icy, Freddie is not here to sing his songs, and IMO and millions of other concert goers, Adam is the next best thing. That is who Brian and Roger have chosen to tour with, so who cares if Freddie wrote the songs at this point! Is he allowed to sing songs by Brian and Roger? Is that OK? Tons of singers sing other singers songs (LOL) and a lot of the original singers aren't even dead. No one except you gets upset about it. It is bordering on ridiculous at this point.
You don't need to know Queen's history to enjoy Queen's song. The two have nothing to do with one another. As I have told you so many times, knowing as much as you do sure ruins QAL for you. I would rather be dumb and pleased, I guess! Truthfully, seeing Freddie in a sparkling onesie on Superman's shoulder in the middle of a Queen song did give me pause for a moment. But as I said, it is a theatrical concert! I still think nothing Adam has done approaches that moment with Superman!! I just don't know how that moment is fine for you, but some of Adam's are not. To me they are pretty much the same. I still think there is pretty much nothing Adam and QAL can do to please you. That is fine, if you would just admit your animus. Instead you throw out a bone about Save Me or some other thing. It is fine that you don't like him, but it gets my goat that you pretend it just isn't so.
[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]
Icy, Freddie is not here to sing his songs, and IMO and millions of other concert goers, Adam is the next best thing. That is who Brian and Roger have chosen to tour with, so who cares if Freddie wrote the songs at this point! Is he allowed to sing songs by Brian and Roger? Is that OK? Tons of singers sing other singers songs (LOL) and a lot of the original singers aren't even dead. No one except you gets upset about it. It is bordering on ridiculous at this point.
You don't need to know Queen's history to enjoy Queen's song. The two have nothing to do with one another. As I have told you so many times, knowing as much as you do sure ruins QAL for you. I would rather be dumb and pleased, I guess! Truthfully, seeing Freddie in a sparkling onesie on Superman's shoulder in the middle of a Queen song did give me pause for a moment. But as I said, it is a theatrical concert! I still think nothing Adam has done approaches that moment with Superman!! I just don't know how that moment is fine for you, but some of Adam's are not. To me they are pretty much the same. I still think there is pretty much nothing Adam and QAL can do to please you. That is fine, if you would just admit your animus. Instead you throw out a bone about Save Me or some other thing. It is fine that you don't like him, but it gets my goat that you pretend it just isn't so. [/QUOTE]
Freddie isn't around, yes I am fully aware of that. Do I think AL is the next best person to sing the Queen songs? No. You are singing from the Glambert handbook right now, I'm afraid. There are many better singers that I feel that are better than AL in many ways. I'm not going to be sorry for that.
I don't get why Freddie on Superman's shoulders is such an affront. If you knew more about Freddie and how he was onstage, maybe it would not have been such a surprise?
How many times has sweetcaroline linked to things that AL did, to try and prove some point? Yet she didn't know that Freddie was on Superman's shoulders wearing a sliver costume...and that's pretty damn tame after all. Her reaction to that was a bit much, IMO. It was done during a Queen concert by the guys who wrote and sang the music and put the shows together. That's why Freddie on Superman's shoulders didn't bother me during a Queen show, ( or if anyone else did it it wouldn't make me bat an eye), and it's not as if Freddie was going around naked or being offensive with it. I think it was pretty dang cool how it was done. Late 70s when Star Wars and Superman was a big deal... very cool actually.
I have never lied about what I liked and didn't like during Q+AL shows. So be it that you think my liking AL sing Save Me was throwing a bone. It's honestly the Queen song I loved AL singing the most, it suited hm very well, I thought. It's not all or nothing for me, not even for Freddie, Brian, Roger and John.
Icy, I think you are missing the point. Freddie in that youtube is not an affront to me. It is part of a theatrical show. The point is that I don't get why Freddie can do outrageous stuff and wear crazy clothes and you think it is just fine and part of the show. But if Adam does something (which I don't think is as out there as Superman), then that is a problem. To me it makes no difference if Freddie wrote the songs or not. I don't get why that has anything to do with anything. Brian and Roger wrote a good number of them and it is still their band which they perform in and they picked Adam to sing Queen's songs and let him know if something is not acceptable, I am sure. Just because you wrote the song doesn't give you leeway to do anything you want. I can't follow your train of thought on this one at all. I also didn't find the superman thing too cool, just kind of weird, but not offensive or anything. Brian and Roger wrote a lot of the songs and they put the show together (which you mention aove) so why can't Adam do what he does? He has the approval. obviously of Brian and Roger. Adam's antics are done during a Queen show, with the guys who wrote the music and sing the music, who put the show together and oversee all of it. Anything offensive to them would not be done in the show. So, it should all be OK, since it reminds me of many of Freddie's strange outfits and crazy behavior, all of which you find perfectly acceptable. It is hard to wrap my mind around this.
So, you don't think Adam is the best person to sing Queen music. It is not just the Glambert handbook who thinks he does a great job. There are tons of people who find he has the perfect voice for Queen's music. I can't think of another person with the range, the ability to switch genres, and have the stamina to sing the to the same standard every night like he does. Who else do you think should be singing? I am really curious who you feel would be better. That is an interesting topic!
