Runner, I doubt very much that Brian and Roger are paying for reviews. What a ridiculous idea. Brian and Roger have had plenty of poor reviews back in the day, so I doubt they would even bother with them. I think they have many more important things to do than worry about that. The reviews are organic and stemming from the fact that the group has jelled and put on a great show. I guess you will have to think what you want, since nothing will change your mind.
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Icy, I think you are missing the point. Freddie in that youtube is not an affront to me. It is part of a theatrical show. The point is that I don't get why Freddie can do outrageous stuff and wear crazy clothes and you think it is just fine and part of the show. But if Adam does something (which I don't think is as out there as Superman), then that is a problem. To me it makes no difference if Freddie wrote the songs or not. I don't get why that has anything to do with anything. Brian and Roger wrote a good number of them and it is still their band which they perform in and they picked Adam to sing Queen's songs and let him know if something is not acceptable, I am sure. Just because you wrote the song doesn't give you leeway to do anything you want. I can't follow your train of thought on this one at all. I also didn't find the superman thing too cool, just kind of weird, but not offensive or anything. Brian and Roger wrote a lot of the songs and they put the show together (which you mention aove) so why can't Adam do what he does? He has the approval. obviously of Brian and Roger. Adam's antics are done during a Queen show, with the guys who wrote the music and sing the music, who put the show together and oversee all of it. Anything offensive to them would not be done in the show. So, it should all be OK, since it reminds me of many of Freddie's strange outfits and crazy behavior, all of which you find perfectly acceptable. It is hard to wrap my mind around this.
So, you don't think Adam is the best person to sing Queen music. It is not just the Glambert handbook who thinks he does a great job. There are tons of people who find he has the perfect voice for Queen's music. I can't think of another person with the range, the ability to switch genres, and have the stamina to sing the to the same standard every night like he does. Who else do you think should be singing? I am really curious who you feel would be better. That is an interesting topic![/QUOTE]
Because what Freddie did, it was during a Queen concert. It wasn't Freddie singing other people's music while doing it. It was good, clean harmless fun, IMO. I think that you don't like it and that's ok, but at least it was done during Queen shows with the band who had so much to do with the music. AL isn't even near that, but some feel he can do whatever he wants during Q+AL shows. I don't think he should have free reign, as 99% of the music isn't AL's to begin with. Yes, it matters to me who wrote the songs and the history about it all. Is there something iconic in AL's career that you would not want the piss to be taken out of? Genuine question.
No, I don't think AL can sing any genre. His solo music is pop and EDM based, he hasn't sang harder rock with his solo music. Singing the Queen cat doesn't prove he can sing any genre either. Only his own music could prove he can sing any genre, not covers of other people's music.
Jeff Scott Sotto and Gary Cherone would be two who I think could handle the Queen catalogue and do it very well. And nope, it's not all about hitting high notes for me, emotion always comes first for me in Queen's and all the other music I like.
Amazing how far this pathetic Glambirds are going saying "who care that Freddie wrote the song" while defending the talentfree ladyboy taking the piss out of this songs. It fucking matters because your prick idol is living on them and destroying them at the same time. He should be ashamed about what he does to the music. And if it was not enough to listen to his godawful powerless screaming girls voice you have to endure his stage manners and crossdressing. as well. Poor people who go there because of Maylor (which is 99%) and have to sit thru this Lametart mess. I pity them.
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]
Amazing how far this pathetic Glambirds are going saying "who care that Freddie wrote the song" while defending the talentfree ladyboy taking the piss out of this songs. It fucking matters because your prick idol is living on them and destroying them at the same time. He should be ashamed about what he does to the music. And if it was not enough to listen to his godawful powerless screaming girls voice you have to endure his stage manners and crossdressing. as well. Poor people who go there because of Maylor (which is 99%) and have to sit thru this Lametart mess. I pity them. [/QUOTE]
People go because of the show not just Brian & Roger and as you know out of the ones who initially go for that reason the majority end up coming away loving Adam as well. You can put him down all you like but it doesn't change the fact that people love this collab, and why wouldn't they if you take away all the ridiculous criticism of what he wears, how he acts onstage, which the huge majority of people at the shows never even mention and focus on the fact he can sing, whether you like to think so or not.
As to not caring who wrote the songs I don't think snifflease meant it the way you are taking it. Freddie along with the others wrote all the songs so of course that matters, the music wouldn't exist otherwise, but the fact remains he's sadly no longer here and Brian & Roger still want to play. Even biased as you are you can't deny they look incredibly happy while playing, not unless you're being deliberately obtuse. No one should have to give up doing something they love through circumstances they had no control over.
As to how Adam sings or chooses to perform the songs, I personally can't see what difference that makes to anyone else, they either like it or they don't. Judging by the overwhelming response they've been getting, even more on this tour than before, I'd say the majority love it. If people were complaining then yeah they'd need to look at that and change it, but they aren't. The only complaints for the most part are that people wish they would change up the set list a bit. Nothing Adam does, regardless of what you think about it, offends anyone and even when reviewers write things like on the other thread about the bike, clothes etc, they still said he's right for the band and it works.
Don’t try to reason with icy. It’s impossible! Only her opinion matters. But it doesn’t really because she has never seen Freddie, Paul or Adam in person. I’m sure she has never seen Jeff Scott Soto or Gary Cherone either.
But she is the “expert!”
And now prepare yourselves for another 10 pages of anti SC and anti Adam vitriol.
I knew Soto, of course, and I relistened to him again and I do like his voice. He is a strong singer and would sound good, but I am not sure how he would be on some of the more whimsical things like Killer Queen. Not sure he has the right vibe for that. I do like him, though! I could hear him singing a lot of the Queen songs, even tho' I am still partial to Adam's voice. He is a good choice. Best of all the ones I have heard so far!
Gary Cherone I wasn't familiar with, so I listened to a bunch of you tubes. Honestly, I didn't care for his voice much. I even heard a song from JC Superstar, with very little instrumentation so you could hear his voice, and it didn't speak to me at all. He has a really pronounced vibrato and an unpleasant tonal quality to his voice that didn't resonate with me.
Thanks for the suggestions, Icy!
Hahaha - very ironic when someone is criticizing CHerone for his vibrato (which is decent) and tone and praising the Shit king of vibrato and lil gir's tone - Lame-Bird himself....
Soto would also wipe the floor with the gooat
[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]
I knew Soto, of course, and I relistened to him again and I do like his voice. He is a strong singer and would sound good, but I am not sure how he would be on some of the more whimsical things like Killer Queen. Not sure he has the right vibe for that. I do like him, though! I could hear him singing a lot of the Queen songs, even tho' I am still partial to Adam's voice. He is a good choice. Best of all the ones I have heard so far!
Gary Cherone I wasn't familiar with, so I listened to a bunch of you tubes. Honestly, I didn't care for his voice much. I even heard a song from JC Superstar, with very little instrumentation so you could hear his voice, and it didn't speak to me at all. He has a really pronounced vibrato and an unpleasant tonal quality to his voice that didn't resonate with me.
Thanks for the suggestions, Icy!
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I love Jeff doing Queen songs, he hasn't got the high range to really hit the super high notes but he's still great, he'd definitely have been my pick if they hadn't gone with Adam.
Check this out, he did a full concert of Queen songs, it's brilliant IMO. http://youtu.be/Yob0Wpgcxns
There's timestamps in the first comment if you just want to jump to individual songs.
I'm not fond of Gary Cherone's voice personally either.
Extreme were the best band at the Freddie tribute by far. Cherone and Nuno were awesome. With their next album "3 Sides to EVery story" they wen totally Queeny - sadly it flopped and Extreme were more or less done. Great band still awesome live
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
Don’t try to reason with icy. It’s impossible! Only her opinion matters. But it doesn’t really because she has never seen Freddie, Paul or Adam in person. I’m sure she has never seen Jeff Scott Soto or Gary Cherone either.
But she is the “expert!”
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How about you let people make up their own minds if they want to discuss things wpith me or not? I could say the same about you, it's impossible for you to see another view other than your own. And I thought you said bye until September. Are you going to keep my name out of your posts in the meantime while clutching your peas about what Freddie wore and did like OMG that was awful!!!
I was asked a question, and I answered it. Maybe snifflese should have asked your permission first, but I think she can use her own mind.
You haven't seen Freddie live either. Maybe if you did, things wouldn't shock you so much. Maybe if you did see Freddie, you would realise how great he truly was. Much, much better than AL much of the time. I guess you will come back with your usual Brian thinks AL is a gift from God, he can sing it all, blah blah.
Maybe if you get your head out of AL's ass, you would know there's a big world of music out there. You miss out on that by being so focused on AL.
What's the matter today, you don't like that others are actually discussing things with me? Is this how you want to keep the thread going?
Your reactions some times prove how bitter you can be. I never said I was an expert, but I do know more about Freddie, Queen and other music than you ever did or will.
Where have I been anti AL lately? What n Earth do you come up with and why? Just look at how you start to stir your shit.
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]
Extreme were the best band at the Freddie tribute by far. Cherone and Nuno were awesome. With their next album "3 Sides to EVery story" they wen totally Queeny - sadly it flopped and Extreme were more or less done. Great band still awesome live[/QUOTE]
Yep, I agree. They were the best band. They were actually a very good band.
[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]
I knew Soto, of course, and I relistened to him again and I do like his voice. He is a strong singer and would sound good, but I am not sure how he would be on some of the more whimsical things like Killer Queen. Not sure he has the right vibe for that. I do like him, though! I could hear him singing a lot of the Queen songs, even tho' I am still partial to Adam's voice. He is a good choice. Best of all the ones I have heard so far!
Gary Cherone I wasn't familiar with, so I listened to a bunch of you tubes. Honestly, I didn't care for his voice much. I even heard a song from JC Superstar, with very little instrumentation so you could hear his voice, and it didn't speak to me at all. He has a really pronounced vibrato and an unpleasant tonal quality to his voice that didn't resonate with me.
Thanks for the suggestions, Icy!
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Thing is, with Jeff and Gary, I think they would both let the music do the talking...without any gimmicks which would be a bonus for me.
Both have damn good voices, I really like a good male rock voice full of emotion and grit. Freddie did that so we'll, better than anyone I've heard before or since.
I saw Jeff Scott Soto with Queen Extravaganza the first time they were touring. He sang the heavier rock songs and two others in the cast of 6 sang the lighter ones. That’s what got me about Adam in that first QAL concert in Kiev — that he was singing ALL of the numbers that 6 people were doing in QE!
Can't imagine why Jeff did the extravaganza, he was way too good for a tribute band type thing.
