Advice?

snifflese wrote:

One thing Adam never does is screech anymore! On Idol there were a few screechy songs, but that was a long time ago. I love heavy metal and that is my sweet spot and there is a lot of screeching there, so I know what I am talking about when I say Adam doesn't screech. A lot of the divas screech, IMO, when they go for the high notes. Adam hits those high notes cleanly and so melodically. There are no pop or rock singers that do that. To say otherwise just means you can't hear or you are just so overwhelmed with your dislike of him that you can't be fair. You can say a lot of other things about his voice, but he never screeches and he has an extraordinary voice. we get you don't like him, but why post negative crap all the time (most of which isn't even close to being true?). Most people avoid things when they don't care for them!

Have you ever heard of Avantasia, kind of opera/metal, I've always thought Adam would be awesome at that.

Ha why dont you stop making out that Lambert is greater than Freddie when he is no where near.
i dont hear of Lambert winning any greatest male vocalists awards, so he cannot be that great can he.
Sorry but he does scream like a silly girl and he does it with his mouth open and you can see his tongue like a lizard yuk.

Avantasia are great and Lamefart would not hold a candle to any of those involved. Screaming like a silly girl hits the nail on its ugly head. Too bad it is queen songs he is raping.

happystar wrote:

Ha why dont you stop making out that Lambert is greater than Freddie when he is no where near.
i dont hear of Lambert winning any greatest male vocalists awards, so he cannot be that great can he.
Sorry but he does scream like a silly girl and he does it with his mouth open and you can see his tongue like a lizard yuk.

I'm not making out he's better than Freddie but I do say he has amazing technical ability. Winning awards doesn't mean much, Taylor Swift must be the best vocalist on the planet, far and above your Freddie's and Plant's of the world if awards are a measure of talent.

As to screaming, I'm gonna guess you don't know that much about singing from a technical standpoint, because if you do you would know what Adam does isn't screaming and even when he deliberately does, it's in key, there's actual notes there. Here check this out to see what actual screaming is as opposed to what Adam does and there's no way the high notes on STL etc is screaming. I'll give you he sticks his tongue out sometimes, to give more space for the high notes. This is one of the guys from the season of Idol Adam was on and he decided for rock week to do Aerosmiths Dream On - now that is what's called a scream and not one you'd ever hear Tyler do. http://youtu.be/o6kAHxkkFzM

runner_70 wrote:

Avantasia are great and Lamefart would not hold a candle to any of those involved. Screaming like a silly girl hits the nail on its ugly head. Too bad it is queen songs he is raping.

You obviously don't know much about singing either, Adam trained in opera for a while and has the kind of voice suited to metal, as everyone likes to point out, so the two together opera/metal would be in his wheelhouse. I'm guessing he wouldn't want to but that's a different thing, You need to watch the vid I just posted, that's screaming and nothing remotely like what Adam does. If you seriously can't tell the difference then it's no wonder you call him so much.

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

Avantasia are great and Lamefart would not hold a candle to any of those involved. Screaming like a silly girl hits the nail on its ugly head. Too bad it is queen songs he is raping.

You obviously don't know much about singing either, Adam trained in opera for a while and has the kind of voice suited to metal, as everyone likes to point out, so the two together opera/metal would be in his wheelhouse. I'm guessing he wouldn't want to but that's a different thing, You need to watch the vid I just posted, that's screaming and nothing remotely like what Adam does. If you seriously can't tell the difference then it's no wonder you call him so much.

I don't want to dredge up any past debates, but I used to say AL didn't have the voice for hard rock rock music. I have to give hm some credit, and say he has improved.
But AL having the voice for metal? I don't think he has the angst that it takes for him to do that genre well. Stone Cold Crazy for example...it's like he is acting all the way through it, IMO.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

I don't want to dredge up any past debates, but I used to say AL didn't have the voice for hard rock rock music. I have to give hm some credit, and say he has improved.
But AL having the voice for metal? I don't think he has the angst that it takes for him to do that genre well. Stone Cold Crazy for example...it's like he is acting all the way through it, IMO.

The way Adam approaches Queen songs for the shows is a choice, he decided that being a theatrical band that's how he'd sing them. There's also the fact that despite him being able to do a lot of crazy stuff with his voice, he can't do it consistently every night, not without doing some damage and he knows it's his living so he's careful. The Queen set is demanding vocally, he's strategic in the way he does it but he can sing in various different ways when he chooses.

I do think his voice could suit the more operatic metal, (not sure if you've heard Avantasia but it's not the Pantera type of thing), if he wanted, but coming from a classical background he's probably well aware it could limit his longevity, it's hardly kind to the vocal chords. I agree about the angst, he's just far too into having fun and being lighthearted IMO. I can't remember where but I'm pretty sure he once said he isn't really into listening to metal much at all, he's more into blues.

mrwillismanTonight's @officialqueenmusic and @adamlambert gig was absolutely immense. I had an awesome time and would say easily it was the best gig I've ever been to. Whether or not you're a Queen fan, I would seriously suggests any musician, tech or live production peeps watch these guys in action. It's incredible! The production, the show structure, the control of the room pre, during and post gig, the musicianship, the structure of the set, the songs, the branding. Just music professionals who seriously know how to entertain an audience. That's why they still sell out stadiums and arenas to this day. Adam Lambert's voice is just incredible and his showmanship is second to none.
Pics and vids to follow. But I just had to say, if you are going to aspire to be a live music professional, the schooling is right there in Queen.
#Queen #QAL #AdamLambert #Wembley #London

This is for the runner and Happywhatever. You ought to check the tweets, instagrams and all the social media after Wembley today. This one touches all aspecits of the QAL ecxperience, but there are so many references to Adam and his voice. That just isn't normal for a concert and it is because he has an amazing voice.

Icy, SCC isn't metal. It is heavier rock and I grant you that is not Adam's strong poin BUT it is 100% better than when he began singing Queen. I think he does a more than credible job with that genre of music. I think he has been working on his lower register and as a male ages, the voice does deepen, which in his case is quite helpful. SCC is not one of my favs and I would drop it personally as there are other songs more suited to his voice, but I still enjoy it and think it is much improved.

Avantasia or the female in Evanescens (sp) and Ed Head woud be great for his voice. There is lots of really high heavy metal where his voice could soar. But as Rock Chic said it takes its toll and Adam is nothing if not careful with his voice. I am surprised he is doing both WWTLF and TSMGO. That is a lot of heavy duty singing in the Queen show. Not many could do that show after show and still sound wonderful. I heard Martel at the end of a tour and it wasn't pretty. Neither was Freddie's voice actually in some concerts. I never got to see him. I just had records and I was so surprised after reading on the Queen forums and then looked up youtubes and actually heard him singing at big concerts. He sang in different keys and sounded different from the recordings. Huge surprise for me!

Actually I meant Ed Guy. Haven't thought of them in a while, but my younger son had all their stuff! While I was standing and doing dishes I was thinking about what I would like Adam to sing and Ozzie and Black Sabbath came to mind. Hallowed be thy Name by Maiden (actually anything by Maiden would be awesome!). I could see him fronting a band singing these kinds of songs! I am also a classical lover and would love to hear him sing something by Bocelli or Nessun Dorma. Then to be totally ridiculous ( for some of you) I would love to hear Adam sing Ave Maria or O Holy Night at Christmas. What I wouldn't give for that, as I am a huge Christmas lover (dumb, I know!!). I even have Judas Priest's Christmas album from a few years ago if that tells you anything! There are so many more challenging songs to sing than what Adam sings as far as his music goes. Anybody can do that stuff. The reason I like him singing Queen is that it matches his voice capability, I guess! Ridicule me all you want, but there is so much more out there for Adam to sink his teeth into and I hope he will do so with his new music. And I am NOT saying I didn't like his own stuff. I own them all and listen to them and enjoy them, but he is not pushing his vocal boundaries! However, as a fan, I will be happy with anything he releases, as I just love his voice. It gives me goose bumps!!

snifflese wrote:

Actually I meant Ed Guy. Haven't thought of them in a while, but my younger son had all their stuff! While I was standing and doing dishes I was thinking about what I would like Adam to sing and Ozzie and Black Sabbath came to mind. Hallowed be thy Name by Maiden (actually anything by Maiden would be awesome!). I could see him fronting a band singing these kinds of songs! I am also a classical lover and would love to hear him sing something by Bocelli or Nessun Dorma. Then to be totally ridiculous ( for some of you) I would love to hear Adam sing Ave Maria or O Holy Night at Christmas. What I wouldn't give for that, as I am a huge Christmas lover (dumb, I know!!). I even have Judas Priest's Christmas album from a few years ago if that tells you anything! There are so many more challenging songs to sing than what Adam sings as far as his music goes. Anybody can do that stuff. The reason I like him singing Queen is that it matches his voice capability, I guess! Ridicule me all you want, but there is so much more out there for Adam to sink his teeth into and I hope he will do so with his new music. And I am NOT saying I didn't like his own stuff. I own them all and listen to them and enjoy them, but he is not pushing his vocal boundaries! However, as a fan, I will be happy with anything he releases, as I just love his voice. It gives me goose bumps!!

I agree about his own stuff not pushing his vocal abilities although some of it is hard to sing, just not in the same way Queen music is, I love the powerful dramatic stuff. I'm with you on O Holy Night, I heard him sing the first four lines on a Chinese show, no music and only one of those radio mic's you use for talking but I thought straight away he'd really suit that one.

Rockchic: i dont want to see your silly downloads to justify Lambert, fact is he is not right for Queen.
He would be good in musicals though, but he looks so lost on the world stages and he has no idea how to command an audience like our dear Freddie had.

happystar wrote:

Rockchic: i dont want to see your silly downloads to justify Lambert, fact is he is not right for Queen.
He would be good in musicals though, but he looks so lost on the world stages and he has no idea how to command an audience like our dear Freddie had.

He has no trouble commanding the audience he just does it in a totally different way to how Freddie did it. That's a good thing, I for one don't want a copy, no one could do what Freddie did so I much prefer someone to have their own way of doing things. Doesn't make it bad, it's like going to see any band, they all do things differently but they're good in their own way. I wouldn't go to see U2 and expect Bono to act like Freddie but he's still good, there isn't just one way of doing things.

Rockchic So if Adam Lambert had been included in Live Aid back in 1985 do you think he would have stolen Freddies thunder?

Adam was only 3 years old in 1985! LOL

Its Edguy not Eh HEad or Ed Guy. Get a life and learn your lessons. SCC was the forerunner of speed Metal and Lamebird is failing miserably on this one (liek on all others btw) His voice fits Queen songs like Adele does Metallica. And Adele
at least is original and writes her own songs. Lamefart is a failure thru and thru and until know noone gives a shit about him. Queen fans go for Maylor and dont care who is singing even if its a no talent hack liek Lamebert.