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Togg
The part in which Freddie has a meeting to get back with teh band IS historically accurate, that meetig happened, and had Mr Bad Guy been massive, who here thinks Freddie wouldn't have gone off touring and promoting it... Also for the first time it's confirmed it was two album deal, something that was rumoured beofre but never really confirmed officially after the ablum bombed.
The band were massively pissed that size of the deal Freddie got that's well documented, and yes they may well have split up in that period, so while all the words may not be 100% accurate the tone of Freddie wanting to come back and admitting he'd been a prick with Prenter is accurate... Lots of this was out in the public arena at the time.
The band were massively pissed that size of the deal Freddie got that's well documented, and yes they may well have split up in that period, so while all the words may not be 100% accurate the tone of Freddie wanting to come back and admitting he'd been a prick with Prenter is accurate... Lots of this was out in the public arena at the time.
Togg
Very interesting article from the screenwriter...
He has steered 40 movies and television series to the screen, has won an Oscar and worked with director Martin Scorsese and stars like Leonardo DiCaprio, Johnny Depp and Angelina Jolie.
His movies have earned some 65 Oscar nominations, but nothing 56-year-old Graham King experienced came close to the difficulties, traumas and setbacks he encountered during the ten long years he spent producing Bohemian Rhapsody, the story of the flamboyant singer Freddie Mercury and the band Queen.
First there was the problem of getting the rights from Queen members Brian May and Roger Taylor, who were initially reluctant for the movie to take place. Then Sacha Baron Cohen, who was originally set to play Mercury, feuded with Queen leader Brian May and badmouthed the script.
The script was re-thought and rewritten more times than King can count. And while filming was well underway, the director Bryan Singer was fired.
"Freddie Mercury has been throwing hurdles at me for ten years and continues to do so," says King ruefully. "Every time we thought we were on the right track, something else would go wrong."
The British-born producer, whose movies include The Aviator, Argo, The Rum Diaries, Hugo and The Departed, for which he won an Oscar, is talking in a Beverly Hills screening room after unveiling a 25-minute clip of Bohemian Rhapsody, which stars Rami Malek, from the TV series “Mr. Robot,” as Freddie Mercury.
King is relieved and delighted that his vision has finally made it to the screen and is ready for release. But he is also wracked with nervous anxiety as he anticipates audience reaction to the project.
"We've made a film that's got to please a lot of audience members and millions of Queen fans," he says. "We don't hide from Freddie Mercury having HIV and getting AIDS. We don't hide his sexuality, but every time we put a piece of footage out there, somebody says, 'You're not showing Freddie Mercury doing this or that.'
"I think Rock Hudson and Freddie were the first two major stars to pass away from AIDS. We were never going to hide from that, but the question was how we were going to put it into the film without it becoming Philadelphia or without it becoming a movie about AIDS or about sexuality. He was one of the greatest performers of our time and with one of the greatest voices. So that's what we've struggled with for so long—putting all these ingredients into a 120-page script. And even up until the last second we were changing dialogue and changing scenes.
"For me, it was about getting the script right and it was the development that took so many years. When you're developing someone's life story into a two-hour film, you've got to pick the moments. And with Freddie’s life it took so much work, and so many writers came in to help to build this story and hopefully tell the right story. We all know you get one shot in a film at telling the story and it was never quite right for a long time. I would keep going off to do another movie, then coming back to the drawing board and figuring out how we can get this done.”
Growing up in London, King remembers seeing Queen on the “Top of the Pops” television show and marveling at the flamboyance of Freddie Mercury. "I was just mesmerized watching him because of his looks and voice and the chemistry he had with an audience," he recalls. "I always said that if he was a politician he could go in front of 400,000 people and just command respect and show them and teach them where to go. No one cared if he was straight or gay, which you couldn't say about many entertainers. So, for me, it was all about telling the life story of someone that people don't know a lot about."
After much negotiating and difficulty, King managed to obtain the movie rights from Brian May, Roger Taylor and Queen's longtime manager, Jim Beach. "But they were very opinionated in the early days about the movie they wanted," King recalls. "I told May, 'We're making a film, not a documentary, and if you don't stick to every minute of history and every song it's okay, you can get away with it.'"
He finally won over May and Taylor, but then, he says, "the whole Sacha Baron Cohen thing happened."
He was shooting Hugo at the time, which co-starred Baron Cohen. "Sacha clearly had a passion to play Freddie Mercury, but there was no script and there was nothing done at the time," King says. "As a producer, until I have a screenplay and until I have a director, I'm not going to ever hire a cast member. Sacha wanted me to sign his deal and I didn't, and he got mad and it all kind of kicked off from there.
"There was a lot of talk from him about how in the script Freddie dies halfway through and then the movie is about the band. Well, that's never, ever been the case. The movie is bookended with the Live Aid concert and starts and ends with Live Aid.
"Then the whole Sacha-Brian May thing became a war in the press, and for me it was always about Brian May, who anytime could say, 'Let's not bother making this film.' Queen didn't need to make the film. They didn't need money, so the friction between Sacha and Brian May became nerve-wracking to me, because any minute he could have just pulled the plug."
King spent hours and days sitting with the band and asking questions about Freddie and their lives with him. But all the time he was worried that they might change their minds. "Whether I had the rights or not, if they weren't going to support the film and didn't want to get involved, I would never make the film. So that was always the big tension for me. Other than that, I think they've been terrific.
"But there were times where they would be like, 'Are we actually going to make this movie?' And I don't think Brian May ever thought we were going to make the film. And when I said I'd got it green-lit at Fox, I think I called his bluff in a way." He laughs.
"But it was a lot of meetings, a lot of getting together and I realize that their life stories are going to be on 6,000 screens around the world, so I understand how nervous they are."
Ben Whishaw was mentioned as a possible Freddie Mercury, but again, no script was ready. Then, King recalls, "I was in London shooting a film and Denis O’Sullivan, who works with me, called me and said, 'I think I've found our Freddie Mercury. I'd love you to fly back to L.A. to meet this guy Rami Malek and spend some time with him.'
"So I did and I think he was really nervous, but there was a little bit of Freddie in him then and he really wanted this gig. And I think we would have been killed if we had a white Freddie Mercury. Freddie was born in Zanzibar and went to school in Mumbai, while Rami has an Egyptian and Greek background. But it wasn't about the look; I wasn't looking for an impersonator, there was just something about him.
"He put himself on an iPhone, copying one of Freddie’s interviews and he sent that to me. And I was like, 'Oh my God, that's Freddie Mercury.' I knew right then that was it—done, done, done! Sometimes it's a gut feeling and I know it sounds a bit corny, but I knew he was right for the part. I've worked with Daniel Day Lewis and Leo and all these guys and this performance I think is one of the best I've ever seen. It's unbelievable. Unbelievable."
The songs in the movie are performed by Freddie, Rami and a Freddie sound-alike named Marc Martel.
"Rami sings a little bit in the film, there's a lot of Freddie Mercury obviously, and a lot of Marc Martel. He sent a video to Brian May and Roger Taylor and he sounds exactly like Freddie Mercury. We knew that we had someone we could use for parts that maybe Rami couldn't do and obviously Freddie didn't do. So we were in Abbey Road recording studio for maybe two and a half months with Marc and with Rami, recording bits and pieces that we knew we needed. It's hard to find someone who can sing like Freddie Mercury and I'm not sure the movie w
He has steered 40 movies and television series to the screen, has won an Oscar and worked with director Martin Scorsese and stars like Leonardo DiCaprio, Johnny Depp and Angelina Jolie.
His movies have earned some 65 Oscar nominations, but nothing 56-year-old Graham King experienced came close to the difficulties, traumas and setbacks he encountered during the ten long years he spent producing Bohemian Rhapsody, the story of the flamboyant singer Freddie Mercury and the band Queen.
First there was the problem of getting the rights from Queen members Brian May and Roger Taylor, who were initially reluctant for the movie to take place. Then Sacha Baron Cohen, who was originally set to play Mercury, feuded with Queen leader Brian May and badmouthed the script.
The script was re-thought and rewritten more times than King can count. And while filming was well underway, the director Bryan Singer was fired.
"Freddie Mercury has been throwing hurdles at me for ten years and continues to do so," says King ruefully. "Every time we thought we were on the right track, something else would go wrong."
The British-born producer, whose movies include The Aviator, Argo, The Rum Diaries, Hugo and The Departed, for which he won an Oscar, is talking in a Beverly Hills screening room after unveiling a 25-minute clip of Bohemian Rhapsody, which stars Rami Malek, from the TV series “Mr. Robot,” as Freddie Mercury.
King is relieved and delighted that his vision has finally made it to the screen and is ready for release. But he is also wracked with nervous anxiety as he anticipates audience reaction to the project.
"We've made a film that's got to please a lot of audience members and millions of Queen fans," he says. "We don't hide from Freddie Mercury having HIV and getting AIDS. We don't hide his sexuality, but every time we put a piece of footage out there, somebody says, 'You're not showing Freddie Mercury doing this or that.'
"I think Rock Hudson and Freddie were the first two major stars to pass away from AIDS. We were never going to hide from that, but the question was how we were going to put it into the film without it becoming Philadelphia or without it becoming a movie about AIDS or about sexuality. He was one of the greatest performers of our time and with one of the greatest voices. So that's what we've struggled with for so long—putting all these ingredients into a 120-page script. And even up until the last second we were changing dialogue and changing scenes.
"For me, it was about getting the script right and it was the development that took so many years. When you're developing someone's life story into a two-hour film, you've got to pick the moments. And with Freddie’s life it took so much work, and so many writers came in to help to build this story and hopefully tell the right story. We all know you get one shot in a film at telling the story and it was never quite right for a long time. I would keep going off to do another movie, then coming back to the drawing board and figuring out how we can get this done.”
Growing up in London, King remembers seeing Queen on the “Top of the Pops” television show and marveling at the flamboyance of Freddie Mercury. "I was just mesmerized watching him because of his looks and voice and the chemistry he had with an audience," he recalls. "I always said that if he was a politician he could go in front of 400,000 people and just command respect and show them and teach them where to go. No one cared if he was straight or gay, which you couldn't say about many entertainers. So, for me, it was all about telling the life story of someone that people don't know a lot about."
After much negotiating and difficulty, King managed to obtain the movie rights from Brian May, Roger Taylor and Queen's longtime manager, Jim Beach. "But they were very opinionated in the early days about the movie they wanted," King recalls. "I told May, 'We're making a film, not a documentary, and if you don't stick to every minute of history and every song it's okay, you can get away with it.'"
He finally won over May and Taylor, but then, he says, "the whole Sacha Baron Cohen thing happened."
He was shooting Hugo at the time, which co-starred Baron Cohen. "Sacha clearly had a passion to play Freddie Mercury, but there was no script and there was nothing done at the time," King says. "As a producer, until I have a screenplay and until I have a director, I'm not going to ever hire a cast member. Sacha wanted me to sign his deal and I didn't, and he got mad and it all kind of kicked off from there.
"There was a lot of talk from him about how in the script Freddie dies halfway through and then the movie is about the band. Well, that's never, ever been the case. The movie is bookended with the Live Aid concert and starts and ends with Live Aid.
"Then the whole Sacha-Brian May thing became a war in the press, and for me it was always about Brian May, who anytime could say, 'Let's not bother making this film.' Queen didn't need to make the film. They didn't need money, so the friction between Sacha and Brian May became nerve-wracking to me, because any minute he could have just pulled the plug."
King spent hours and days sitting with the band and asking questions about Freddie and their lives with him. But all the time he was worried that they might change their minds. "Whether I had the rights or not, if they weren't going to support the film and didn't want to get involved, I would never make the film. So that was always the big tension for me. Other than that, I think they've been terrific.
"But there were times where they would be like, 'Are we actually going to make this movie?' And I don't think Brian May ever thought we were going to make the film. And when I said I'd got it green-lit at Fox, I think I called his bluff in a way." He laughs.
"But it was a lot of meetings, a lot of getting together and I realize that their life stories are going to be on 6,000 screens around the world, so I understand how nervous they are."
Ben Whishaw was mentioned as a possible Freddie Mercury, but again, no script was ready. Then, King recalls, "I was in London shooting a film and Denis O’Sullivan, who works with me, called me and said, 'I think I've found our Freddie Mercury. I'd love you to fly back to L.A. to meet this guy Rami Malek and spend some time with him.'
"So I did and I think he was really nervous, but there was a little bit of Freddie in him then and he really wanted this gig. And I think we would have been killed if we had a white Freddie Mercury. Freddie was born in Zanzibar and went to school in Mumbai, while Rami has an Egyptian and Greek background. But it wasn't about the look; I wasn't looking for an impersonator, there was just something about him.
"He put himself on an iPhone, copying one of Freddie’s interviews and he sent that to me. And I was like, 'Oh my God, that's Freddie Mercury.' I knew right then that was it—done, done, done! Sometimes it's a gut feeling and I know it sounds a bit corny, but I knew he was right for the part. I've worked with Daniel Day Lewis and Leo and all these guys and this performance I think is one of the best I've ever seen. It's unbelievable. Unbelievable."
The songs in the movie are performed by Freddie, Rami and a Freddie sound-alike named Marc Martel.
"Rami sings a little bit in the film, there's a lot of Freddie Mercury obviously, and a lot of Marc Martel. He sent a video to Brian May and Roger Taylor and he sounds exactly like Freddie Mercury. We knew that we had someone we could use for parts that maybe Rami couldn't do and obviously Freddie didn't do. So we were in Abbey Road recording studio for maybe two and a half months with Marc and with Rami, recording bits and pieces that we knew we needed. It's hard to find someone who can sing like Freddie Mercury and I'm not sure the movie w
Vocal harmony
[QUOTE] [b]mike hunt wrote:[/b]
Thank u....The fact is, Bo Rhap was Queen's masterpiece In The studio, written by Mercury....Live Aid was considered a watershed moment live, as Brian said, Freddie stole the show...Freddie wrote the first hits that made them stars...Some people can't handle the truth....Doesn't mean It was the Freddie band, obviously they were all talented. Brian was/is An Influence as a guitarist, but he does seem a bit Jealous of Freddie, and this movie with that scene proves it.[/QUOTE]
Both Brian and Roger have been very vocal (all along) about how great Freddie was, as a song writer, vocalist, musician and front man. How anyone can turn that into proof of jealousy is a bit far off the mark.
People made noises about the film being watered down and skipping over what really happened, I guess gay bars, lines of coke etc is what some were expecting to see or wanted to see.We all know that went on, and to some excess sometimes. But when the film presents a chapter in the band's history that you weren't expecting or don't want to accept, then it gets labelled as untrue.
Thank u....The fact is, Bo Rhap was Queen's masterpiece In The studio, written by Mercury....Live Aid was considered a watershed moment live, as Brian said, Freddie stole the show...Freddie wrote the first hits that made them stars...Some people can't handle the truth....Doesn't mean It was the Freddie band, obviously they were all talented. Brian was/is An Influence as a guitarist, but he does seem a bit Jealous of Freddie, and this movie with that scene proves it.[/QUOTE]
Both Brian and Roger have been very vocal (all along) about how great Freddie was, as a song writer, vocalist, musician and front man. How anyone can turn that into proof of jealousy is a bit far off the mark.
People made noises about the film being watered down and skipping over what really happened, I guess gay bars, lines of coke etc is what some were expecting to see or wanted to see.We all know that went on, and to some excess sometimes. But when the film presents a chapter in the band's history that you weren't expecting or don't want to accept, then it gets labelled as untrue.
Vocal harmony
[QUOTE] [b]Togg wrote:[/b]
The part in which Freddie has a meeting to get back with teh band IS historically accurate, that meetig happened, and had Mr Bad Guy been massive, who here thinks Freddie wouldn't have gone off touring and promoting it... Also for the first time it's confirmed it was two album deal, something that was rumoured beofre but never really confirmed officially after the ablum bombed.
The band were massively pissed that size of the deal Freddie got that's well documented, and yes they may well have split . . . . . .[/QUOTE]
Funny that I posted in this forum in the past that that or something similar is what happened and I was shot down by certain members. Now that it's in the film, a film people wanted the nitty gritty to be exposed in, some still don't believe this happened.
I guess had the film claimed they played to a million people at Rio that would have been believable!
The part in which Freddie has a meeting to get back with teh band IS historically accurate, that meetig happened, and had Mr Bad Guy been massive, who here thinks Freddie wouldn't have gone off touring and promoting it... Also for the first time it's confirmed it was two album deal, something that was rumoured beofre but never really confirmed officially after the ablum bombed.
The band were massively pissed that size of the deal Freddie got that's well documented, and yes they may well have split . . . . . .[/QUOTE]
Funny that I posted in this forum in the past that that or something similar is what happened and I was shot down by certain members. Now that it's in the film, a film people wanted the nitty gritty to be exposed in, some still don't believe this happened.
I guess had the film claimed they played to a million people at Rio that would have been believable!
cmsdrums
[QUOTE] [b]Togg wrote:[/b]
Also for the first time it's confirmed it was two album deal, something that was rumoured beofre but never really confirmed officially after the ablum bombed.
.[/QUOTE]
I certainly remember the two album deal info being out there in the last few years, especially in an interview with Jim Beach. I wasn't however aware of it at the time of Mr Bad Guy, but then it was pre internet so pretty easy to understand that it just wouldn't have been reported.
Also for the first time it's confirmed it was two album deal, something that was rumoured beofre but never really confirmed officially after the ablum bombed.
.[/QUOTE]
I certainly remember the two album deal info being out there in the last few years, especially in an interview with Jim Beach. I wasn't however aware of it at the time of Mr Bad Guy, but then it was pre internet so pretty easy to understand that it just wouldn't have been reported.
Darren_1977
Was Barbara Valentin featured or the 39th birthday in Munich recreated. was there any scenes of drug use or did they bypass all this debauchery!
Togg
[QUOTE] [b]cmsdrums wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Togg wrote:[/b]
Also for the first time it's confirmed it was two album deal, something that was rumoured beofre but never really confirmed officially after the ablum bombed.
.[/QUOTE]
I certainly remember the two album deal info being out there in the last few years, especially in an interview with Jim Beach. I wasn't however aware of it at the time of Mr Bad Guy, but then it was pre internet so pretty easy to understand that it just wouldn't have been reported.[/QUOTE]
I think it first came to my attention when The Great Pretender came out, rumours were he was making a full album of covers
[QUOTE] [b]Togg wrote:[/b]
Also for the first time it's confirmed it was two album deal, something that was rumoured beofre but never really confirmed officially after the ablum bombed.
.[/QUOTE]
I certainly remember the two album deal info being out there in the last few years, especially in an interview with Jim Beach. I wasn't however aware of it at the time of Mr Bad Guy, but then it was pre internet so pretty easy to understand that it just wouldn't have been reported.[/QUOTE]
I think it first came to my attention when The Great Pretender came out, rumours were he was making a full album of covers
Togg
[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Togg wrote:[/b]
The part in which Freddie has a meeting to get back with teh band IS historically accurate, that meetig happened, and had Mr Bad Guy been massive, who here thinks Freddie wouldn't have gone off touring and promoting it... Also for the first time it's confirmed it was two album deal, something that was rumoured beofre but never really confirmed officially after the ablum bombed.
The band were massively pissed that size of the deal Freddie got that's well documented, and yes they may well have split . . . . . .[/QUOTE]
Funny that I posted in this forum in the past that that or something similar is what happened and I was shot down by certain members. Now that it's in the film, a film people wanted the nitty gritty to be exposed in, some still don't believe this happened.
I guess had the film claimed they played to a million people at Rio that would have been believable![/QUOTE]
Yep, I can remember hearing Freddie had left Queen a week or so before Mr Bad Guy came out, then it got a fair bit of attention in the press and people were ringing the Fan club trying to find out. I think it's actually a pretty close representation of what happened at that point.
[QUOTE] [b]Togg wrote:[/b]
The part in which Freddie has a meeting to get back with teh band IS historically accurate, that meetig happened, and had Mr Bad Guy been massive, who here thinks Freddie wouldn't have gone off touring and promoting it... Also for the first time it's confirmed it was two album deal, something that was rumoured beofre but never really confirmed officially after the ablum bombed.
The band were massively pissed that size of the deal Freddie got that's well documented, and yes they may well have split . . . . . .[/QUOTE]
Funny that I posted in this forum in the past that that or something similar is what happened and I was shot down by certain members. Now that it's in the film, a film people wanted the nitty gritty to be exposed in, some still don't believe this happened.
I guess had the film claimed they played to a million people at Rio that would have been believable![/QUOTE]
Yep, I can remember hearing Freddie had left Queen a week or so before Mr Bad Guy came out, then it got a fair bit of attention in the press and people were ringing the Fan club trying to find out. I think it's actually a pretty close representation of what happened at that point.
Voice of Reason 2018
[QUOTE] [b]Togg wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Togg wrote:[/b]
The part in which Freddie has a meeting to get back with teh band IS historically accurate, that meetig happened, and had Mr Bad Guy been massive, who here thinks Freddie wouldn't have gone off touring and promoting it... Also for the first time it's confirmed it was two album deal, something that was rumoured beofre but never really confirmed officially after the ablum bombed.
The band were massively pissed that size of the deal Freddie got that's well documented, and yes they may well have split . . . . . .[/QUOTE]
Funny that I posted in this forum in the past that that or something similar is what happened and I was shot down by certain members. Now that it's in the film, a film people wanted the nitty gritty to be exposed in, some still don't believe this happened.
I guess had the film claimed they played to a million people at Rio that would have been believable![/QUOTE]
Yep, I can remember hearing Freddie had left Queen a week or so before Mr Bad Guy came out, then it got a fair bit of attention in the press and people were ringing the Fan club trying to find out. I think it's actually a pretty close representation of what happened at that point.
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Mr. Bad Guy came out on 29 April. Queen were in Australia and had six more shows to do oin Japan.
We just seem to keep going around in circles.
[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Togg wrote:[/b]
The part in which Freddie has a meeting to get back with teh band IS historically accurate, that meetig happened, and had Mr Bad Guy been massive, who here thinks Freddie wouldn't have gone off touring and promoting it... Also for the first time it's confirmed it was two album deal, something that was rumoured beofre but never really confirmed officially after the ablum bombed.
The band were massively pissed that size of the deal Freddie got that's well documented, and yes they may well have split . . . . . .[/QUOTE]
Funny that I posted in this forum in the past that that or something similar is what happened and I was shot down by certain members. Now that it's in the film, a film people wanted the nitty gritty to be exposed in, some still don't believe this happened.
I guess had the film claimed they played to a million people at Rio that would have been believable![/QUOTE]
Yep, I can remember hearing Freddie had left Queen a week or so before Mr Bad Guy came out, then it got a fair bit of attention in the press and people were ringing the Fan club trying to find out. I think it's actually a pretty close representation of what happened at that point.
[/QUOTE]
Mr. Bad Guy came out on 29 April. Queen were in Australia and had six more shows to do oin Japan.
We just seem to keep going around in circles.
Voice of Reason 2018
'We haven't played together in years'
-'We were in Japan last week Rog'
'Oh yeah!'
I saw it last night.
I thought it was pretty poor.
And laughable too. So much so that I didn't even get angry at what I was seeing.
I hope now I can forget the film, get back to my life and look forward to the tour!
And maybe spend less time on the Forums!
Take care.
Cheers.
-'We were in Japan last week Rog'
'Oh yeah!'
I saw it last night.
I thought it was pretty poor.
And laughable too. So much so that I didn't even get angry at what I was seeing.
I hope now I can forget the film, get back to my life and look forward to the tour!
And maybe spend less time on the Forums!
Take care.
Cheers.
Togg
[QUOTE] [b]Voice of Reason 2018 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Togg wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Togg wrote:[/b]
The part in which Freddie has a meeting to get back with teh band IS historically accurate, that meetig happened, and had Mr Bad Guy been massive, who here thinks Freddie wouldn't have gone off touring and promoting it... Also for the first time it's confirmed it was two album deal, something that was rumoured beofre but never really confirmed officially after the ablum bombed.
The band were massively pissed that size of the deal Freddie got that's well documented, and yes they may well have split . . . . . .[/QUOTE]
Funny that I posted in this forum in the past that that or something similar is what happened and I was shot down by certain members. Now that it's in the film, a film people wanted the nitty gritty to be exposed in, some still don't believe this happened.
I guess had the film claimed they played to a million people at Rio that would have been believable![/QUOTE]
Yep, I can remember hearing Freddie had left Queen a week or so before Mr Bad Guy came out, then it got a fair bit of attention in the press and people were ringing the Fan club trying to find out. I think it's actually a pretty close representation of what happened at that point.
[/QUOTE]
Mr. Bad Guy came out on 29 April. Queen were in Australia and had six more shows to do oin Japan.
We just seem to keep going around in circles.
Indeed they were, but Freddie had a terrible tour, drunk much of the time, even on stage, he was not really putting his heart and soul into Queen at that point rumours were flying around, this was obviously before the internet or youtube so much was being stirred up by the press, I had a newpaper clipping from then saying he'd left... Whether he actually intended to leave or not there's no doubt Prenter had been pushing for exactly that during this time. That's been quoted before by a number of people. Rumours kept coming out even till 86 at which point Freddie states on stage they are not breaking up.. The band were pissed at his record deal and frankly since Hot Space flopped had struggled to keep it together until Live Aid. There was no begging to come back, but there was a decision to make as to whether Queen would carry on after the far east tour, luckily Live Aid came along or they may well have called it a day, that has been quotes a million times...
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[QUOTE] [b]Togg wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Togg wrote:[/b]
The part in which Freddie has a meeting to get back with teh band IS historically accurate, that meetig happened, and had Mr Bad Guy been massive, who here thinks Freddie wouldn't have gone off touring and promoting it... Also for the first time it's confirmed it was two album deal, something that was rumoured beofre but never really confirmed officially after the ablum bombed.
The band were massively pissed that size of the deal Freddie got that's well documented, and yes they may well have split . . . . . .[/QUOTE]
Funny that I posted in this forum in the past that that or something similar is what happened and I was shot down by certain members. Now that it's in the film, a film people wanted the nitty gritty to be exposed in, some still don't believe this happened.
I guess had the film claimed they played to a million people at Rio that would have been believable![/QUOTE]
Yep, I can remember hearing Freddie had left Queen a week or so before Mr Bad Guy came out, then it got a fair bit of attention in the press and people were ringing the Fan club trying to find out. I think it's actually a pretty close representation of what happened at that point.
[/QUOTE]
Mr. Bad Guy came out on 29 April. Queen were in Australia and had six more shows to do oin Japan.
We just seem to keep going around in circles.
Indeed they were, but Freddie had a terrible tour, drunk much of the time, even on stage, he was not really putting his heart and soul into Queen at that point rumours were flying around, this was obviously before the internet or youtube so much was being stirred up by the press, I had a newpaper clipping from then saying he'd left... Whether he actually intended to leave or not there's no doubt Prenter had been pushing for exactly that during this time. That's been quoted before by a number of people. Rumours kept coming out even till 86 at which point Freddie states on stage they are not breaking up.. The band were pissed at his record deal and frankly since Hot Space flopped had struggled to keep it together until Live Aid. There was no begging to come back, but there was a decision to make as to whether Queen would carry on after the far east tour, luckily Live Aid came along or they may well have called it a day, that has been quotes a million times...
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Togg... good post, there was no begging to come back is my and Yaff's only point....Freddie going in the wrong direction with Paul is well Documented and they did have a meeting without Paul around. No one's debating that.
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Thank u....The fact is, Bo Rhap was Queen's masterpiece In The studio, written by Mercury....Live Aid was considered a watershed moment live, as Brian said, Freddie stole the show...Freddie wrote the first hits that made them stars...Some people can't handle the truth....Doesn't mean It was the Freddie band, obviously they were all talented. Brian was/is An Influence as a guitarist, but he does seem a bit Jealous of Freddie, and this movie with that scene proves it.[/QUOTE]
Both Brian and Roger have been very vocal (all along) about how great Freddie was, as a song writer, vocalist, musician and front man. How anyone can turn that into proof of jealousy is a bit far off the mark.
People made noises about the film being watered down and skipping over what really happened, I guess gay bars, lines of coke etc is what some were expecting to see or wanted to see.We all know that went on, and to some excess sometimes. But when the film presents a chapter in the band's history that you weren't expecting or don't want to accept, then it gets labelled as untrue.
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[QUOTE] [b]mike hunt wrote:[/b]
Thank u....The fact is, Bo Rhap was Queen's masterpiece In The studio, written by Mercury....Live Aid was considered a watershed moment live, as Brian said, Freddie stole the show...Freddie wrote the first hits that made them stars...Some people can't handle the truth....Doesn't mean It was the Freddie band, obviously they were all talented. Brian was/is An Influence as a guitarist, but he does seem a bit Jealous of Freddie, and this movie with that scene proves it.[/QUOTE]
Both Brian and Roger have been very vocal (all along) about how great Freddie was, as a song writer, vocalist, musician and front man. How anyone can turn that into proof of jealousy is a bit far off the mark.
People made noises about the film being watered down and skipping over what really happened, I guess gay bars, lines of coke etc is what some were expecting to see or wanted to see.We all know that went on, and to some excess sometimes. But when the film presents a chapter in the band's history that you weren't expecting or don't want to accept, then it gets labelled as untrue.
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The meeting to let Freddie back in the band IS in the film. It’s a bit lighthearted but it happens.
Forgot to say, that Live Aid day begins with Freddie taking Jim (who he tracks down for the first time since meeting in 1980) to his parents for tea.
There’s also a line in which Freddie says to Mary that he’s “got to finish his second album”, put in around the time of the MBG sessions (no mention of opera, either!).
Golden Salmon: the only thing that stood out was the live Bo Rhap audio (1975 era) in which Freddie sounded amazing. I’m not convinced that the audio is Edinburgh 1976, which the recreated performance was meant to resemble.
Most performances are partial; Live Aid has abridged versions of BR/RGG/HTF/WATC and the vocal improvisation.
It’s easy to work out when it’s Marc Martel’s vocals; main one I remember is when Freddie is at a piano improvising the lyrics/chords to LOML.
WWRY Movie Mix is a bit different to the soundtrack and automatically less jarring.
Freddie’s first performance with Smile (playing KYA) has him screwing up the lyrics. Brian is heard saying “learn the words, Freddie”, or words to that extent.
FM’s voice is also portrayed to be in bad form at the Live Aid rehearsals (in the film said to be a week out from the gig) which prompts him to tell the band about his illness.
In general, I still don’t know what to make of it. The outfits and sets look fantastic, and are largely accurately recreated throughout (down to the Live Aid camera crew who Freddie messes with during HTF). One of the best moments is the way one dark scene goes straight into the Break Free video recording; a great juxtaposition. Also, the recreation of the Killer Queen video is excellent - features the side-on angle (from Roger's right-hand side, if you follow), which was a great touch.
It ends with a shot of Wembley (recreated stunningly throughout the Live Aid sequence) and the Live Aid audio echoing (as per the soundtrack), before the credits start with an acapella first verse to DSTMN. There’s a small timeline (Freddie death date, Freddie and Jim lived together, set up of Mercury Phoenix Trust, Bo Rhap re-release, from memory) - no mention of Queen “continuing” to this day, which will please some. DSMN audio eventually fades into the TSMGO.[/QUOTE]Does anyone have more info about that Bohemian Rhapsody rock section live audio?
It's not the one we've seen in one of the trailers (that was mostly Earls Court)?
The meeting to let Freddie back in the band IS in the film. It’s a bit lighthearted but it happens.
Forgot to say, that Live Aid day begins with Freddie taking Jim (who he tracks down for the first time since meeting in 1980) to his parents for tea.
There’s also a line in which Freddie says to Mary that he’s “got to finish his second album”, put in around the time of the MBG sessions (no mention of opera, either!).
Golden Salmon: the only thing that stood out was the live Bo Rhap audio (1975 era) in which Freddie sounded amazing. I’m not convinced that the audio is Edinburgh 1976, which the recreated performance was meant to resemble.
Most performances are partial; Live Aid has abridged versions of BR/RGG/HTF/WATC and the vocal improvisation.
It’s easy to work out when it’s Marc Martel’s vocals; main one I remember is when Freddie is at a piano improvising the lyrics/chords to LOML.
WWRY Movie Mix is a bit different to the soundtrack and automatically less jarring.
Freddie’s first performance with Smile (playing KYA) has him screwing up the lyrics. Brian is heard saying “learn the words, Freddie”, or words to that extent.
FM’s voice is also portrayed to be in bad form at the Live Aid rehearsals (in the film said to be a week out from the gig) which prompts him to tell the band about his illness.
In general, I still don’t know what to make of it. The outfits and sets look fantastic, and are largely accurately recreated throughout (down to the Live Aid camera crew who Freddie messes with during HTF). One of the best moments is the way one dark scene goes straight into the Break Free video recording; a great juxtaposition. Also, the recreation of the Killer Queen video is excellent - features the side-on angle (from Roger's right-hand side, if you follow), which was a great touch.
It ends with a shot of Wembley (recreated stunningly throughout the Live Aid sequence) and the Live Aid audio echoing (as per the soundtrack), before the credits start with an acapella first verse to DSTMN. There’s a small timeline (Freddie death date, Freddie and Jim lived together, set up of Mercury Phoenix Trust, Bo Rhap re-release, from memory) - no mention of Queen “continuing” to this day, which will please some. DSMN audio eventually fades into the TSMGO.[/QUOTE]Does anyone have more info about that Bohemian Rhapsody rock section live audio?
It's not the one we've seen in one of the trailers (that was mostly Earls Court)?