Thrill Yeti
This video gives quite a good analysis of the two recordings, Freddie's and Marc's: https://youtu.be/MzhF65YBxs0
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Ivo-1976
After much hesitation I decided to have a go with it.
Touching at some points, but too much fiction on many occasions.
"Brian and John" were quite realistic in looks and behaviour.
I found Roger out of key with his true character. Had some very odd moments in the film, very un-roger-ish.
And Freddie...well...it didn't work for me. Not the looks, the voice, the acting.
The storyline was nice-Hollywood-proof, but it was not the story of Queen and Freddie for me.
However, I can understand why they ended with a highlight and not the sight of a dying man.
In the end, they showed Freddie as an entertainer, not a patient.
But as said before, it is not a documentary. But still, it could and maybe should have been better.
Here in The Netherlands, it is a blockbuster however.
Touching at some points, but too much fiction on many occasions.
"Brian and John" were quite realistic in looks and behaviour.
I found Roger out of key with his true character. Had some very odd moments in the film, very un-roger-ish.
And Freddie...well...it didn't work for me. Not the looks, the voice, the acting.
The storyline was nice-Hollywood-proof, but it was not the story of Queen and Freddie for me.
However, I can understand why they ended with a highlight and not the sight of a dying man.
In the end, they showed Freddie as an entertainer, not a patient.
But as said before, it is not a documentary. But still, it could and maybe should have been better.
Here in The Netherlands, it is a blockbuster however.
Dusta
I hated the movie. It made me angry, and sad for Freddie. It is like they were angry at him(for being gay? For getting most of the attention?), but were afraid to say so while he was alive, so did this movie instead. The *inaccuracies* were self serving and gratuitous. I cannot believe anybody close(Roger) to Freddie actually sanctioned the film. They had this one chance...this one chance...and all they could see was an opportunity to make certain folks knew that Freddie was always late for the studio, left the band to go solo when they would NEVER do such a thing, and that they were kind enough to forgive him. Oh yeah, and that Brian came up with WWRY and the guitar solo in Bo Rhap.
runner_70
[QUOTE] [b]Dusta wrote:[/b]
I hated the movie. It made me angry, and sad for Freddie. It is like they were angry at him(for being gay? For getting most of the attention?), but were afraid to say so while he was alive, so did this movie instead. The *inaccuracies* were self serving and gratuitous. I cannot believe anybody close(Roger) to Freddie actually sanctioned the film. They had this one chance...this one chance...and all they could see was an opportunity to make certain folks knew that Freddie was always late for the studio, left the band to go solo when they would NEVER do such a thing, and that they were kind enough to forgive him. Oh yeah, and that Brian came up with WWRY and the guitar solo in Bo Rhap.[/QUOTE]
110% Spot on. This movie is a slap in the face for any Queen and especially Freddie fan. Maylor should be ashamed of themselves
I hated the movie. It made me angry, and sad for Freddie. It is like they were angry at him(for being gay? For getting most of the attention?), but were afraid to say so while he was alive, so did this movie instead. The *inaccuracies* were self serving and gratuitous. I cannot believe anybody close(Roger) to Freddie actually sanctioned the film. They had this one chance...this one chance...and all they could see was an opportunity to make certain folks knew that Freddie was always late for the studio, left the band to go solo when they would NEVER do such a thing, and that they were kind enough to forgive him. Oh yeah, and that Brian came up with WWRY and the guitar solo in Bo Rhap.[/QUOTE]
110% Spot on. This movie is a slap in the face for any Queen and especially Freddie fan. Maylor should be ashamed of themselves
brENsKi
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]110% Spot on. This movie is a slap in the face for any Queen and especially Freddie fan. Maylor should be ashamed of themselves
[/QUOTE]
No it isn't. It's a "slap in the face" to the Freddie-obsessed Stepfords like yourself. Stepfords, sychophants and Farrokhophiles, who have no life whatsoever outside of the discussion forums - providing a vehicle for their rancid attacks on anything that fails to conform to their own ideological view of how things are in their Freddieland Fairytale. Sadly (for you), your utterly pathetic "truth" is nothing like that of the real world.
Have you *any* other drums to bang Gerry? We ALL know you hate everything Brian and Roger do - we get it.
It's a movie, a piece of entertainment - not a documentary or critique. get the fuck over it.
[/QUOTE]
No it isn't. It's a "slap in the face" to the Freddie-obsessed Stepfords like yourself. Stepfords, sychophants and Farrokhophiles, who have no life whatsoever outside of the discussion forums - providing a vehicle for their rancid attacks on anything that fails to conform to their own ideological view of how things are in their Freddieland Fairytale. Sadly (for you), your utterly pathetic "truth" is nothing like that of the real world.
Have you *any* other drums to bang Gerry? We ALL know you hate everything Brian and Roger do - we get it.
It's a movie, a piece of entertainment - not a documentary or critique. get the fuck over it.
runner_70
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]110% Spot on. This movie is a slap in the face for any Queen and especially Freddie fan. Maylor should be ashamed of themselves
[/QUOTE]
No it isn't. It's a "slap in the face" to the Freddie-obsessed Stepfords like yourself. Stepfords, sychophants and Farrokhophiles, who have no life whatsoever outside of the discussion forums - providing a vehicle for their rancid attacks on anything that fails to conform to their own ideological view of how things are in their Freddieland Fairytale. Sadly (for you), your utterly pathetic "truth" is nothing like that of the real world.
Have you *any* other drums to bang Gerry? We ALL know you hate everything Brian and Roger do - we get it.
It's a movie, a piece of entertainment - not a documentary or critique. get the fuck over it.
[/QUOTE]
I am not Gerry you sad fucktart. Believe all your Maylor lies you sad asshat fanboy and get the hell out of here you moron. The Fairytale you talk about is the Maylor Histoy rewrite you assclown
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]110% Spot on. This movie is a slap in the face for any Queen and especially Freddie fan. Maylor should be ashamed of themselves
[/QUOTE]
No it isn't. It's a "slap in the face" to the Freddie-obsessed Stepfords like yourself. Stepfords, sychophants and Farrokhophiles, who have no life whatsoever outside of the discussion forums - providing a vehicle for their rancid attacks on anything that fails to conform to their own ideological view of how things are in their Freddieland Fairytale. Sadly (for you), your utterly pathetic "truth" is nothing like that of the real world.
Have you *any* other drums to bang Gerry? We ALL know you hate everything Brian and Roger do - we get it.
It's a movie, a piece of entertainment - not a documentary or critique. get the fuck over it.
[/QUOTE]
I am not Gerry you sad fucktart. Believe all your Maylor lies you sad asshat fanboy and get the hell out of here you moron. The Fairytale you talk about is the Maylor Histoy rewrite you assclown
brENsKi
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b][QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]110% Spot on. This movie is a slap in the face for any Queen and especially Freddie fan. Maylor should be ashamed of themselves
[/QUOTE]
No it isn't. It's a "slap in the face" to the Freddie-obsessed Stepfords like yourself. Stepfords, sychophants and Farrokhophiles, who have no life whatsoever outside of the discussion forums - providing a vehicle for their rancid attacks on anything that fails to conform to their own ideological view of how things are in their Freddieland Fairytale. Sadly (for you), your utterly pathetic "truth" is nothing like that of the real world.
Have you *any* other drums to bang Gerry? We ALL know you hate everything Brian and Roger do - we get it.
It's a movie, a piece of entertainment - not a documentary or critique. get the fuck over it.
[/QUOTE]
I am not Gerry you sad fucktart. Believe all your Maylor lies you sad asshat fanboy and get the hell out of here you moron. The Fairytale you talk about is the Maylor Histoy rewrite you assclown[/QUOTE]
Your use of language, spelling, punctuation and grammar would indicate all to the contrary.
Think I touched a nerve, here, Geraldine.
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]110% Spot on. This movie is a slap in the face for any Queen and especially Freddie fan. Maylor should be ashamed of themselves
[/QUOTE]
No it isn't. It's a "slap in the face" to the Freddie-obsessed Stepfords like yourself. Stepfords, sychophants and Farrokhophiles, who have no life whatsoever outside of the discussion forums - providing a vehicle for their rancid attacks on anything that fails to conform to their own ideological view of how things are in their Freddieland Fairytale. Sadly (for you), your utterly pathetic "truth" is nothing like that of the real world.
Have you *any* other drums to bang Gerry? We ALL know you hate everything Brian and Roger do - we get it.
It's a movie, a piece of entertainment - not a documentary or critique. get the fuck over it.
[/QUOTE]
I am not Gerry you sad fucktart. Believe all your Maylor lies you sad asshat fanboy and get the hell out of here you moron. The Fairytale you talk about is the Maylor Histoy rewrite you assclown[/QUOTE]
Your use of language, spelling, punctuation and grammar would indicate all to the contrary.
Think I touched a nerve, here, Geraldine.
runner_70
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b][QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]110% Spot on. This movie is a slap in the face for any Queen and especially Freddie fan. Maylor should be ashamed of themselves
[/QUOTE]
No it isn't. It's a "slap in the face" to the Freddie-obsessed Stepfords like yourself. Stepfords, sychophants and Farrokhophiles, who have no life whatsoever outside of the discussion forums - providing a vehicle for their rancid attacks on anything that fails to conform to their own ideological view of how things are in their Freddieland Fairytale. Sadly (for you), your utterly pathetic "truth" is nothing like that of the real world.
Have you *any* other drums to bang Gerry? We ALL know you hate everything Brian and Roger do - we get it.
It's a movie, a piece of entertainment - not a documentary or critique. get the fuck over it.
[/QUOTE]
I am not Gerry you sad fucktart. Believe all your Maylor lies you sad asshat fanboy and get the hell out of here you moron. The Fairytale you talk about is the Maylor Histoy rewrite you assclown[/QUOTE]
Your use of language, spelling, punctuation and grammar would indicate all to the contrary.
Think I touched a nerve, here, Geraldine.
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And you are that de-dop guy. HE started this as well. You know how he ended :)
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b][QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]110% Spot on. This movie is a slap in the face for any Queen and especially Freddie fan. Maylor should be ashamed of themselves
[/QUOTE]
No it isn't. It's a "slap in the face" to the Freddie-obsessed Stepfords like yourself. Stepfords, sychophants and Farrokhophiles, who have no life whatsoever outside of the discussion forums - providing a vehicle for their rancid attacks on anything that fails to conform to their own ideological view of how things are in their Freddieland Fairytale. Sadly (for you), your utterly pathetic "truth" is nothing like that of the real world.
Have you *any* other drums to bang Gerry? We ALL know you hate everything Brian and Roger do - we get it.
It's a movie, a piece of entertainment - not a documentary or critique. get the fuck over it.
[/QUOTE]
I am not Gerry you sad fucktart. Believe all your Maylor lies you sad asshat fanboy and get the hell out of here you moron. The Fairytale you talk about is the Maylor Histoy rewrite you assclown[/QUOTE]
Your use of language, spelling, punctuation and grammar would indicate all to the contrary.
Think I touched a nerve, here, Geraldine.
[/QUOTE]
And you are that de-dop guy. HE started this as well. You know how he ended :)
brENsKi
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]And you are that de-dop guy. HE started this as well. You know how he ended :)[/QUOTE]
I'm not. and (as I have been away from QZ 3yrs), I am unaware of how "he ended" [sic]. How's things @ St Nicholas', Gerry?
I'm not. and (as I have been away from QZ 3yrs), I am unaware of how "he ended" [sic]. How's things @ St Nicholas', Gerry?
Holly2003
This is an old interview about Hot Space and around the time of the alleged band break up. It's interesting to hear what they have to say especially in light of the film.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxN0ywYERlo[/url]
Some points:
-- Hot Space was mostly Fred's idea
-- Brian, Rog & John have no problem with Fred doing a solo album
-- Queen is their vehicle and solo projects are a side interest
and yet ... Fred seems really defensive about HS and MrBG, and his comments about his relationship with the others suggests some undercurrent of tension or dissatisfaction.
Oh, and John's comments about Burroughs and drugs are interesting. I think this was before John flew of to Bali to take magic mushrooms.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxN0ywYERlo[/url]
Some points:
-- Hot Space was mostly Fred's idea
-- Brian, Rog & John have no problem with Fred doing a solo album
-- Queen is their vehicle and solo projects are a side interest
and yet ... Fred seems really defensive about HS and MrBG, and his comments about his relationship with the others suggests some undercurrent of tension or dissatisfaction.
Oh, and John's comments about Burroughs and drugs are interesting. I think this was before John flew of to Bali to take magic mushrooms.
AlbaNo1
For sure there were tensions, but they were relatively honest about it. It’s when you don’t talk about something that more damaging events can occur.
Freddie comes off as super sharp and powerful. Love the John comment on meeting William Burroughs, that hints at quite an interesting persona.
Freddie comes off as super sharp and powerful. Love the John comment on meeting William Burroughs, that hints at quite an interesting persona.
brENsKi
[QUOTE] [b]AlbaNo1 wrote:[/b]For sure there were tensions, but they were relatively honest about it. It’s when you don’t talk about something that more damaging events can occur.
Freddie comes off as super sharp and powerful. Love the John comment on meeting William Burroughs, that hints at quite an interesting persona.[/QUOTE]
i think there's some very revealing comments in there:
[b]Roger: [i]i think we've come to realise really, that, that particular direction - a whole album of that - isn't really what people want from us.[/b][/i]
there's a Bank of Queen calculated nature about that. it says. the whole thing has to be about doing whatever keeps the greenbacks rolling in. shame really, this could be the point where Queen stopped leading and became followers?
there's also the use of the word "that" rather than defining the genre of music - there's almost and underlying contempt in Roger the Rockers tone.
it might have been interesting also to hear the unexpurgated lyrics for Radio Ga Ga.
Freddie comes off as super sharp and powerful. Love the John comment on meeting William Burroughs, that hints at quite an interesting persona.[/QUOTE]
i think there's some very revealing comments in there:
[b]Roger: [i]i think we've come to realise really, that, that particular direction - a whole album of that - isn't really what people want from us.[/b][/i]
there's a Bank of Queen calculated nature about that. it says. the whole thing has to be about doing whatever keeps the greenbacks rolling in. shame really, this could be the point where Queen stopped leading and became followers?
there's also the use of the word "that" rather than defining the genre of music - there's almost and underlying contempt in Roger the Rockers tone.
it might have been interesting also to hear the unexpurgated lyrics for Radio Ga Ga.
kosimodo
“it might have been interesting also to hear the unexpurgated lyrics for Radio Ga Ga. “
Are there any rumours about that?!
Are there any rumours about that?!
brENsKi
[QUOTE] [b]kosimodo wrote:[/b]“it might have been interesting also to hear the unexpurgated lyrics for Radio Ga Ga. “
Are there any rumours about that?![/QUOTE]
not that i'm aware of. there's little more than Freddie's reference of a significant lyric change from 1m42s > 2m19s.
there's nothing in there to suggest the "original" lyrics were ever recorded. so it may be that Roger presented his "1st draft", Freddie tried them, found it too dark and contributed to a "less heavy" lyric.
Are there any rumours about that?![/QUOTE]
not that i'm aware of. there's little more than Freddie's reference of a significant lyric change from 1m42s > 2m19s.
there's nothing in there to suggest the "original" lyrics were ever recorded. so it may be that Roger presented his "1st draft", Freddie tried them, found it too dark and contributed to a "less heavy" lyric.
MisterCosmicc
[QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]
This is an old interview about Hot Space and around the time of the alleged band break up. It's interesting to hear what they have to say especially in light of the film.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxN0ywYERlo[/url]
Some points:
-- Hot Space was mostly Fred's idea
-- Brian, Rog & John have no problem with Fred doing a solo album
-- Queen is their vehicle and solo projects are a side interest
and yet ... Fred seems really defensive about HS and MrBG, and his comments about his relationship with the others suggests some undercurrent of tension or dissatisfaction.
Oh, and John's comments about Burroughs and drugs are interesting. I think this was before John flew of to Bali to take magic mushrooms.
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Please don’t forget about Brian’s past rants about the Mr. Bad Guy album.
This is an old interview about Hot Space and around the time of the alleged band break up. It's interesting to hear what they have to say especially in light of the film.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxN0ywYERlo[/url]
Some points:
-- Hot Space was mostly Fred's idea
-- Brian, Rog & John have no problem with Fred doing a solo album
-- Queen is their vehicle and solo projects are a side interest
and yet ... Fred seems really defensive about HS and MrBG, and his comments about his relationship with the others suggests some undercurrent of tension or dissatisfaction.
Oh, and John's comments about Burroughs and drugs are interesting. I think this was before John flew of to Bali to take magic mushrooms.
[/QUOTE]
Please don’t forget about Brian’s past rants about the Mr. Bad Guy album.