I imagine the songs are recorded before Adam is aware they exist, and then he reviews which ones he likes.
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SweetCaroline wrote:
I think they both are/were very special performers.
They're not equals.
MisterCosmicc wrote:
I imagine the songs are recorded before Adam is aware they exist, and then he reviews which ones he likes.
The ones he was given to record that were already written by other people would have been like WWFM which was written by Pink and Max Martin and quite a few others but the one's he's had input with likely weren't, especially the one's he works on with friends. He wrote one with one of the judges on Idol which they worked on together and on his last album he spent three months in Stockholm doing nothing but go into the studio with a team and come up with songs and then record them. He went to writing workshop in France between tour legs last year, he clearly likes to have input even if he doesn't write the whole thing.
Adam was not “manufactured” by American Idol. He was already a great singer/stage performer since age 10. Michael Orland and the music director (can’t think of his name right now) have both said how Adam was constantly e-mailing them with his ideas and adaptations for the songs he was performing each week.
SweetCaroline wrote:
I wish we could stand Adam and Freddie side by side to measure the length of their legs. Adam’s 6 ft. 3 in. frame is mostly legs!
Why would you want to compare that of all things?!
You put to much stock in physical appearances.
rockchic65 wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:
I can't see him doing a full rock album, or have a full rock band.
I'd be interested if that did happen. It just that he changes his mind about his sound and genre. Remember the blusey feel he said he was going for?
He's said from day one that genre doesn't matter and he likes so many different styles of music that he seems to want to put them all on one album. Maybe that's one of the problems, he's not just one thing, you can't put a label on him and say he's pop or rock or blues or funk because he mixes it all together. He sounds like he's more sure what he wants to do on this album but even recent comments sound as if it's still gonna be a mix of genre's, whether that will work is anyone's guess. He's still taking blues, soul, glam rock but with a more modern feel, whatever he means by that. The consistent thing is he's said it's all gonna be real instruments not electronic EDM type stuff and he's mentioned getting back to the influences that first inspired him to get into it, so Queen, Bowie, Prince and George Michael.
It was Mister Cosmicc calling him obese in an earlier reply to me.
I still think of AL as a pop artist to be honest.
Gosh knows what his next music will be like just because he changes his mind so often. If I can be honest, I don't expect much to change, genre wise.
Holly2003 wrote:
SweetCaroline wrote:
I think they both are/were very special performers.
They're not equals.
Yep. Worlds apart, truth be told.
rockchic65 wrote:
MisterCosmicc wrote:
I imagine the songs are recorded before Adam is aware they exist, and then he reviews which ones he likes.
The ones he was given to record that were already written by other people would have been like WWFM which was written by Pink and Max Martin and quite a few others but the one's he's had input with likely weren't, especially the one's he works on with friends. He wrote one with one of the judges on Idol which they worked on together and on his last album he spent three months in Stockholm doing nothing but go into the studio with a team and come up with songs and then record them. He went to writing workshop in France between tour legs last year, he clearly likes to have input even if he doesn't write the whole thing.
WWFM? What the fuck is that? Can we do away with the initials and learn to type shit out? You're fully capable of typing out a huge paragraph but can't write out the title of a song?
Holly2003 wrote:
SweetCaroline wrote:
I wish we could stand Adam and Freddie side by side to measure the length of their legs. Adam’s 6 ft. 3 in. frame is mostly legs!
Adam is taller than Fred vs. Fred wrote Bohemian Rhapsody.
I wonder in the years to come which of those facts will be most celebrated.
:D :D :D
Depends on the fan base ;-)
About AL being“manufactured“:
I found it surprising to learn, that American Idol worked completely different from X-factor or The Voice.
The contestants chose their songs out of about 100 provided ones each week all by themselves.
They learnt and rehearsed them all by themselves, with a little help by a few behind the scenes crew and musicians. No mentors were involved in how they staged their songs or presented themselves.
The judges were only there for the castings and live shows. They weren’t allowed to talk to them, other than in the show. The judges had no possibility to influence the results of a show. Only the audience decided in the live shows.
After the show ended, Simon Cowell didn’t manage anyone of them. That would happen on X-factor.
I learnt all that, after my surprise, that Adam once said, that he hadn’t been in contact with Cowell since idol. That was about 2 years ago or so.
I wouldn’t call any artist coming from that show manufactured.
I found it surprising to learn, that American Idol worked completely different from X-factor or The Voice.
The contestants chose their songs out of about 100 provided ones each week all by themselves.
They learnt and rehearsed them all by themselves, with a little help by a few behind the scenes crew and musicians. No mentors were involved in how they staged their songs or presented themselves.
The judges were only there for the castings and live shows. They weren’t allowed to talk to them, other than in the show. The judges had no possibility to influence the results of a show. Only the audience decided in the live shows.
After the show ended, Simon Cowell didn’t manage anyone of them. That would happen on X-factor.
I learnt all that, after my surprise, that Adam once said, that he hadn’t been in contact with Cowell since idol. That was about 2 years ago or so.
I wouldn’t call any artist coming from that show manufactured.
AL is still in contact with Cowell these days. I wish All would leave those type of shows behind, and move on from it.
PS..I don't need or want to see links or pics of AL and Cowell together, sweetcaroline.
PS..I don't need or want to see links or pics of AL and Cowell together, sweetcaroline.
Iron Butterfly wrote:
AL is still in contact with Cowell these days. I wish All would leave those type of shows behind, and move on from it.
PS..I don't need or want to see links or pics of AL and Cowell together, sweetcaroline.
Those must be new. I was looking for a connection about two-three years ago. There was none. Nothing in the whole WWW since idol.
Wasn’t he a judge on one of his shows not long ago? Maybe the connection got renewed.
MisterCosmicc wrote:
WWFM? What the fuck is that? Can we do away with the initials and learn to type shit out? You're fully capable of typing out a huge paragraph but can't write out the title of a song?
Sorry you appeared to be familiar with some of his songs so I assumed you would know that one being the most well known - it's Whataya Want From Me, the second single of his first album.
Sealion wrote:
About AL being“manufactured“:
I found it surprising to learn, that American Idol worked completely different from X-factor or The Voice.
The contestants chose their songs out of about 100 provided ones each week all by themselves.
They learnt and rehearsed them all by themselves, with a little help by a few behind the scenes crew and musicians. No mentors were involved in how they staged their songs or presented themselves.
The judges were only there for the castings and live shows. They weren’t allowed to talk to them, other than in the show. The judges had no possibility to influence the results of a show. Only the audience decided in the live shows.
After the show ended, Simon Cowell didn’t manage anyone of them. That would happen on X-factor.
I learnt all that, after my surprise, that Adam once said, that he hadn’t been in contact with Cowell since idol. That was about 2 years ago or so.
I wouldn’t call any artist coming from that show manufactured.
Yeah X Factor is completely different, it's Simon's own show and the judges all mentor the contestants, choose the songs or at least have input into it etc. Idol was created by Simon Fuller and Cowell was only a judge, he didn't have any sway over it and his record company weren't involved, nineteen was the label they got signed to from Idol, part of RCA.
Iron Butterfly wrote:
AL is still in contact with Cowell these days. I wish All would leave those type of shows behind, and move on from it.
PS..I don't need or want to see links or pics of AL and Cowell together, sweetcaroline.
He always get's introduced as from Idol so it's pointless to try to cut ties with it and like Cowell or not he has a lot of influence and X Factor is seen by millions every week. They have guest artists on every week and most have no connection to the show so if Adam get's asked to perform or guest judge he'd be daft to turn it down, it's all publicity at the end of the day.