[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
I wish we could stand Adam and Freddie side by side to measure the length of their legs. Adam’s 6 ft. 3 in. frame is mostly legs!
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He's 6'1 not 6'3.
rockchic65
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Holly2003
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
I wish we could stand Adam and Freddie side by side to measure the length of their legs. Adam’s 6 ft. 3 in. frame is mostly legs!
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Adam is taller than Fred vs. Fred wrote Bohemian Rhapsody.
I wonder in the years to come which of those facts will be most celebrated.
:D :D :D
I wish we could stand Adam and Freddie side by side to measure the length of their legs. Adam’s 6 ft. 3 in. frame is mostly legs!
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Adam is taller than Fred vs. Fred wrote Bohemian Rhapsody.
I wonder in the years to come which of those facts will be most celebrated.
:D :D :D
Sealion
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
I wish we could stand Adam and Freddie side by side to measure the length of their legs. Adam’s 6 ft. 3 in. frame is mostly legs!
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His height is max 6’1. I stood close to the barricade this year and he walked by. He‘s not taller than me.
And why is the length of their legs interesting???
For your info: Freddie was clearly shorter than Adam. Not sure, if that’s true for all body parts though...
I wish we could stand Adam and Freddie side by side to measure the length of their legs. Adam’s 6 ft. 3 in. frame is mostly legs!
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His height is max 6’1. I stood close to the barricade this year and he walked by. He‘s not taller than me.
And why is the length of their legs interesting???
For your info: Freddie was clearly shorter than Adam. Not sure, if that’s true for all body parts though...
SweetCaroline
Ha! Ha! Someone with long legs takes longer strides which may look slower than a spark plug like Freddie used to be doing his quick step across the stage!
I think they both are/were very special performers.
Maybe it is those 3 inch heels that gives the appearance that he is 6 / 3?
I have to say Rami did a good job of learning that special Freddie dance step.
I think they both are/were very special performers.
Maybe it is those 3 inch heels that gives the appearance that he is 6 / 3?
I have to say Rami did a good job of learning that special Freddie dance step.
Sealion
@SweetCaroline
It would help a lot, if you tried to stay on topic for once. Your last comments didn’t contribute anything to that.
It would help a lot, if you tried to stay on topic for once. Your last comments didn’t contribute anything to that.
MisterCosmicc
What's crazy is Adam's albums chart in the top ten, but then they just disappear and don't even reach gold status!
rockchic65
[QUOTE] [b]MisterCosmicc wrote:[/b]
What's crazy is Adam's albums chart in the top ten, but then they just disappear and don't even reach gold status![/QUOTE]
He has got gold and platinum discs especially for his first album. The figures for sales are messed up on wiki especially for his last album, they only put the original figures on and it's never been updated. It's also not included streams on spotify etc.
What's crazy is Adam's albums chart in the top ten, but then they just disappear and don't even reach gold status![/QUOTE]
He has got gold and platinum discs especially for his first album. The figures for sales are messed up on wiki especially for his last album, they only put the original figures on and it's never been updated. It's also not included streams on spotify etc.
thomasquinn 32989
[QUOTE] [b]Mr Right wrote:[/b]
VOCAL HARMONY Elvis and Sinatra where not manufactured on a reality crap show like American idol so get your facts right
and for the record i am a long way from been called an idiot.
Grow up or get back on the streets you tart.[/QUOTE]
Elvis might not've been manufactured on a reality show, but he was definitely moulded, shaped and exploited by an all-powerful management (the colonel).
VOCAL HARMONY Elvis and Sinatra where not manufactured on a reality crap show like American idol so get your facts right
and for the record i am a long way from been called an idiot.
Grow up or get back on the streets you tart.[/QUOTE]
Elvis might not've been manufactured on a reality show, but he was definitely moulded, shaped and exploited by an all-powerful management (the colonel).
thomasquinn 32989
[QUOTE] [b]rockchic65 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]
But he is not a songwriter, so don't pretend he is. That just detracts from the things he IS good at.[/QUOTE]
I'd love to know how people "know" he's no songwriter? He wrote songs prior to Idol with Monty Pitman, he wrote Aftermath with Alisan Porter prior to Idol then used it on his first album and also as a charity single. He co wrote the original high song which they changed once he was signed with Warner and Max started working with him, the original demo is on YouTube as well as the released one. Not saying he's gonna be the greatest songwriter in the world but he has more input than people give him credit for and it's obvious which songs are very personal to him and which he's had a large hand in. Broken Open is one and Chokehold, both one's he's explained what he wrote them about. Yeah they're all collaborations, he didn't write them solo but they do reflect his personal opinions and feelings about things.
To clarify, what I mean is I see that differently from the songs he was just given to sing from other people with no input or personal meaning. I don't see it matters if he actually wrote the all the words so long as the message is personal. Not saying there's anything wrong with singing other people's music either, both ways work fine and he does both.
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Writing lyrics is not the same as writing songs. If you can't play any instrument, it's extremely unlikely that you're capable of writing songs. That is quite aside from quality, whether or not you can write *good* songs. It means you don't have the tools or the specialist knowledge.
To put it in a metaphor: no matter how good you are at playing the guitar, it says nothing about your skill at building a guitar.
[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]
But he is not a songwriter, so don't pretend he is. That just detracts from the things he IS good at.[/QUOTE]
I'd love to know how people "know" he's no songwriter? He wrote songs prior to Idol with Monty Pitman, he wrote Aftermath with Alisan Porter prior to Idol then used it on his first album and also as a charity single. He co wrote the original high song which they changed once he was signed with Warner and Max started working with him, the original demo is on YouTube as well as the released one. Not saying he's gonna be the greatest songwriter in the world but he has more input than people give him credit for and it's obvious which songs are very personal to him and which he's had a large hand in. Broken Open is one and Chokehold, both one's he's explained what he wrote them about. Yeah they're all collaborations, he didn't write them solo but they do reflect his personal opinions and feelings about things.
To clarify, what I mean is I see that differently from the songs he was just given to sing from other people with no input or personal meaning. I don't see it matters if he actually wrote the all the words so long as the message is personal. Not saying there's anything wrong with singing other people's music either, both ways work fine and he does both.
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Writing lyrics is not the same as writing songs. If you can't play any instrument, it's extremely unlikely that you're capable of writing songs. That is quite aside from quality, whether or not you can write *good* songs. It means you don't have the tools or the specialist knowledge.
To put it in a metaphor: no matter how good you are at playing the guitar, it says nothing about your skill at building a guitar.
rockchic65
[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]
Writing lyrics is not the same as writing songs. If you can't play any instrument, it's extremely unlikely that you're capable of writing songs. That is quite aside from quality, whether or not you can write *good* songs. It means you don't have the tools or the specialist knowledge.
To put it in a metaphor: no matter how good you are at playing the guitar, it says nothing about your skill at building a guitar.[/QUOTE]
I take your point I just think if you have technical knowledge of singing and by that I mean you have the knowledge of what key and note etc you're singing then you could theoretically come up with a melody line in your head and sing it to someone who plays an instrument the same way someone can just play something by ear on a piano for example. I know Adam changes the arrangement of a lot of his songs when touring solo or works with the band to come up with arrangements of covers he decides to do last minute. He obviously needs them to play what he's thinking but between them they can work it out so the same in theory can apply when writing new music. Not saying he does, just that he could.
At the end of the day though it doesn't really matter, like you said lots of singers never write music and it doesn't hold them back. They can't all be multi skilled.
Writing lyrics is not the same as writing songs. If you can't play any instrument, it's extremely unlikely that you're capable of writing songs. That is quite aside from quality, whether or not you can write *good* songs. It means you don't have the tools or the specialist knowledge.
To put it in a metaphor: no matter how good you are at playing the guitar, it says nothing about your skill at building a guitar.[/QUOTE]
I take your point I just think if you have technical knowledge of singing and by that I mean you have the knowledge of what key and note etc you're singing then you could theoretically come up with a melody line in your head and sing it to someone who plays an instrument the same way someone can just play something by ear on a piano for example. I know Adam changes the arrangement of a lot of his songs when touring solo or works with the band to come up with arrangements of covers he decides to do last minute. He obviously needs them to play what he's thinking but between them they can work it out so the same in theory can apply when writing new music. Not saying he does, just that he could.
At the end of the day though it doesn't really matter, like you said lots of singers never write music and it doesn't hold them back. They can't all be multi skilled.
Sealion
[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]
Elvis might not've been manufactured on a reality show, but he was definitely moulded, shaped and exploited by an all-powerful management (the colonel). [/QUOTE]
I would even rather call Elvis manufactured, to tell the truth. Yes, Lambert came to the big scene via a TV show. But before and after, he at least tried to do his own thing.
Elvis on the other hand was always in the hand of his manager. I remember my mother saying, that she had always hoped for a tour of his in Europe, but he had his contract in Vegas and couldn’t leave. His manager made sure, Elvis stayed in the US, because he himself wasn’t allowed to leave the country. He was booked in lots of films, even when he wanted to do music again.
The „mighty“ Elvis was a puppet of his manager. These were the words of my mother, a lifelong Elvis fan.
Elvis might not've been manufactured on a reality show, but he was definitely moulded, shaped and exploited by an all-powerful management (the colonel). [/QUOTE]
I would even rather call Elvis manufactured, to tell the truth. Yes, Lambert came to the big scene via a TV show. But before and after, he at least tried to do his own thing.
Elvis on the other hand was always in the hand of his manager. I remember my mother saying, that she had always hoped for a tour of his in Europe, but he had his contract in Vegas and couldn’t leave. His manager made sure, Elvis stayed in the US, because he himself wasn’t allowed to leave the country. He was booked in lots of films, even when he wanted to do music again.
The „mighty“ Elvis was a puppet of his manager. These were the words of my mother, a lifelong Elvis fan.
rockchic65
[QUOTE] [b]Sealion wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]
Elvis might not've been manufactured on a reality show, but he was definitely moulded, shaped and exploited by an all-powerful management (the colonel). [/QUOTE]
I would even rather call Elvis manufactured, to tell the truth. Yes, Lambert came to the big scene via a TV show. But before and after, he at least tried to do his own thing.
Elvis on the other hand was always in the hand of his manager. I remember my mother saying, that she had always hoped for a tour of his in Europe, but he had his contract in Vegas and couldn’t leave. His manager made sure, Elvis stayed in the US, because he himself wasn’t allowed to leave the country.
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It's no wonder the poor guy ended up how he did after what they did with him. He may have made money it but it came at a high price.
[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]
Elvis might not've been manufactured on a reality show, but he was definitely moulded, shaped and exploited by an all-powerful management (the colonel). [/QUOTE]
I would even rather call Elvis manufactured, to tell the truth. Yes, Lambert came to the big scene via a TV show. But before and after, he at least tried to do his own thing.
Elvis on the other hand was always in the hand of his manager. I remember my mother saying, that she had always hoped for a tour of his in Europe, but he had his contract in Vegas and couldn’t leave. His manager made sure, Elvis stayed in the US, because he himself wasn’t allowed to leave the country.
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It's no wonder the poor guy ended up how he did after what they did with him. He may have made money it but it came at a high price.
MisterCosmicc
I imagine the songs are recorded before Adam is aware they exist, and then he reviews which ones he likes.
Holly2003
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
I think they both are/were very special performers.
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They're not equals.
I think they both are/were very special performers.
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They're not equals.
rockchic65
[QUOTE] [b]MisterCosmicc wrote:[/b]
I imagine the songs are recorded before Adam is aware they exist, and then he reviews which ones he likes.[/QUOTE]
The ones he was given to record that were already written by other people would have been like WWFM which was written by Pink and Max Martin and quite a few others but the one's he's had input with likely weren't, especially the one's he works on with friends. He wrote one with one of the judges on Idol which they worked on together and on his last album he spent three months in Stockholm doing nothing but go into the studio with a team and come up with songs and then record them. He went to writing workshop in France between tour legs last year, he clearly likes to have input even if he doesn't write the whole thing.
I imagine the songs are recorded before Adam is aware they exist, and then he reviews which ones he likes.[/QUOTE]
The ones he was given to record that were already written by other people would have been like WWFM which was written by Pink and Max Martin and quite a few others but the one's he's had input with likely weren't, especially the one's he works on with friends. He wrote one with one of the judges on Idol which they worked on together and on his last album he spent three months in Stockholm doing nothing but go into the studio with a team and come up with songs and then record them. He went to writing workshop in France between tour legs last year, he clearly likes to have input even if he doesn't write the whole thing.