Songwriting with his friends. Is he able to write a song or two by himself for his upcoming music?
I honestly don't have much hope for his song writing given the fact TwoFux was the result of what he had input on along with four other song writers.
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[QUOTE] [b]rockchic65 wrote:[/b]
The music industry dictates a lot of what happens, he was signed to Warner and they presumably wanted him to work with the hit makers Martin/Shelback and their team and when you're tied to a contract you don't have a great deal of say in what happens. There's songs on all his albums that he's co wrote but album 3 is the one with the least input from him. Seems he's changed things up this year, he's been working with independent songwriter friends, various one's and having a lot more input it seems though when the album will get released is anyone's guess, there's obviously label issues going on.
Obviously he makes good money with Queen and why not, he was asked by them and they couldn't be out there touring at the level they are without a singer so it's mutually beneficial, nothing wrong with that.
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Who is he writing songs with? I'd like to learn about it.
Hmm... label issues. I wonder if it's the poor sales from his last two albums.[/QUOTE]
I don't remember their names, he and they have posted clips on instagram over the last eighteen months he's been working on the album with various friends in the studio writing/recording. Most of them are actual friends he's known for ages. No idea about the label, he clearly can't say anything at the moment but it's possible they didn't agree on the direction he wanted to go since he previously said the album was completed but then he was back in the studio recording again. He's probably locked into a time limit where he can't go to another label or release music if he was the one who decided to leave.
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He said "friends"? No links at all?
From AL touring with Brian and Roger, to AL writing songs with friends.
And having Brian and Roger perform TwoFux live could not make that song better...it's hardly a shining moment, more like a turd wrapped in foil. Frankly, I think AL needs better songs.
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They're instagram stories that he and his friends post, mostly them and so they disappear after 24 hours. I follow him on insta but I don't take that much notice of his friends names etc. The one's I know he works with are -
Sarah Hudson, Alisan Porter, Ferras, Justin Tranter, Bonnie McKee, Trey Campbell, Sam Sparro
I'm sure there's been a few others as well.
[QUOTE] [b]Iron Butterfly wrote:[/b]
Songwriting with his friends. Is he able to write a song or two by himself for his upcoming music?
I honestly don't have much hope for his song writing given the fact TwoFux was the result of what he had input on along with four other song writers. [/QUOTE]
Why does he need to write a song alone when he prefers to work with other people, he's a collaborator, he's extremely sociable and loves to be around people so it's how he likes to work. Queen worked best when they all got together in a studio and wrote and recorded on the fly, people collaborating brings everyone's strengths into play and it's how a lot of bands work. Adam's a solo artist but that doesn't mean he has to be a one man band when it comes to all the other parts of putting music together.
As to Two Fux, that's not his one and only song, why is that one so important, it was simply something that appealed to him because of the message, not caring too much about other people's opinion of you, not getting caught up in that cycle of giving power to other people but not taking it too serious either.
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His issues about the record company, I guess another reason why he is so quick to jump in for Brian and Roger while his solo career has fallen behind.[/QUOTE]
He works with them because it's fun for all of them and it's successful. He has plenty other things happening while he waits out whatever issue there is with his music and he loves variety, he's always said he didn't want to just do music from day one so any opportunities that come along to do other things, within reason, and he'll jump at them, he just likes to be busy.
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[QUOTE] [b]Iron Butterfly wrote:[/b]
Songwriting with his friends. Is he able to write a song or two by himself for his upcoming music?
I honestly don't have much hope for his song writing given the fact TwoFux was the result of what he had input on along with four other song writers. [/QUOTE]
Why does he need to write a song alone when he prefers to work with other people, he's a collaborator, he's extremely sociable and loves to be around people so it's how he likes to work. Queen worked best when they all got together in a studio and wrote and recorded on the fly, people collaborating brings everyone's strengths into play and it's how a lot of bands work. Adam's a solo artist but that doesn't mean he has to be a one man band when it comes to all the other parts of putting music together.
As to Two Fux, that's not his one and only song, why is that one so important, it was simply something that appealed to him because of the message, not caring too much about other people's opinion of you, not getting caught up in that cycle of giving power to other people but not taking it too serious either.
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I'd like to see what he could come up with to be honest.
TwoFux isn't his best work. I knock that song, because it's not good song and the fact it took five people to come up with it.
[QUOTE] [b]Iron Butterfly wrote:[/b]
I'd like to see what he could come up with to be honest.
TwoFux isn't his best work. I knock that song, because it's not good song and the fact it took five people to come up with it. [/QUOTE]
I don't personally like it either but it's just one song and I can see his reason for doing it and it was mostly wrote before he had any hand in it.
BEcause he is a talentless twat, a manufactured dance EMO looking like a tranny with no musical talent whatsoever
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[QUOTE] [b]MisterCosmicc wrote:[/b]
He said "friends"? No links at all?[/QUOTE]
They're instagram stories that he and his friends post, mostly them and so they disappear after 24 hours. I follow him on insta but I don't take that much notice of his friends names etc. The one's I know he works with are -
Sarah Hudson, Alisan Porter, Ferras, Justin Tranter, Bonnie McKee, Trey Campbell, Sam Sparro
I'm sure there's been a few others as well.
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So... hired songwriters. Not out of friendship.... but hired. Those are people that work for companies that get paid to write for people.
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So... hired songwriters. Not out of friendship.... but hired. Those are people that work for companies that get paid to write for people.[/QUOTE]
Nope the one's I mentioned are personal friends not just co workers. The others he's working with I'm not sure about and don't remember their names. Obviously they aren't working for free and will get songwriting credits etc but they are still actual friends.
I don’t know, with whom AL is writing his music and I don’t actually think it matters.
My question: What exactly would you people call“good songwriting“?
The all over the radio generic pop songs? They only work, because labels and radio are pushing them. They create their clients and MAKE them stars. Is there anything else, that’s successful at the moment?
I don’t really see it. Sorry. It’s another time and world and not comparable to the time, when the old rock bands created all these new kinds of music.
Now, there are thousands of bands and singers out there, who try to do the same.
Or do you want more original, creative and therefore risky songs?
I think Lamberts“Two Fux“ fits that bill. People like it or they don’t, but it’s different. I actually liked it. It has a catchy melody. The lyrics are personal and kinda funny. It’s a light song with a deeper meaning.
What if Justin Bieber sang it? The radio stations would have played it to death and it would have been a hit.
Lambert‘s 3rd album was produced by Max Martin. The man, who produces hit after hit. Again: Had for instance Adele sang the ballad „There I said it“, it might probably have been a hit.
No, the music industry is sick. They do have their formulas and today it is unfortunately worse than ever. A song like BoRhap would never see the sun today. A singer, who doesn’t do, what he‘s told, is cut short. Success is unfortunately not about songwriting. It‘s about fitting the industry‘s bill.
The really creative musicians play in garage bands.
Edit: I don’t mean to say, that AL songs are that good, that they must be hits. I tried to explain, that they aren’t worse than most of the hit songs by current superstars on the radio. ;)
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I don’t know, with whom AL is writing his music and I don’t actually think it matters.
My question: What exactly would you people call“good songwriting“?
The all over the radio generic pop songs? They only work, because labels and radio are pushing them. They create their clients and MAKE them stars. Is there anything else, that’s successful at the moment?
I don’t really see it. Sorry. It’s another time and world and not comparable to the time, when the old rock bands created all these new kinds of music.
Now, there are thousands of bands and singers out there, who try to do the same.
Or do you want more original, creative and therefore risky songs?
I think Lamberts“Two Fux“ fits that bill. People like it or they don’t, but it’s different. I actually liked it. It has a catchy melody. The lyrics are personal and kinda funny. It’s a light song with a deeper meaning.
What if Justin Bieber sang it? The radio stations would have played it to death and it would have been a hit.
Lambert‘s 3rd album was produced by Max Martin. The man, who produces hit after hit. Again: Had for instance Adele sang the ballad „There I said it“, it might probably have been a hit.
No, the music industry is sick. They do have their formulas and today it is unfortunately worse than ever. A song like BoRhap would never see the sun today. A singer, who doesn’t do, what he‘s told, is cut short. Success is unfortunately not about songwriting. It‘s about fitting the industry‘s bill.
The really creative musicians play in garage bands.
Edit: I don’t mean to say, that AL songs are that good, that they must be hits. I tried to explain, that they aren’t worse than most of the hit songs by current superstars on the radio. ;)
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Yep that's all true and because the physical sales of music have dropped off massively due to streaming etc record labels don't want to invest lots of money so it's a case of make something quick and cheap, if it can be done on computer with no live instruments even better, all keeps the costs down. If you want to be creative and make decent music a lot of times you have to go independent.
Saw this article today, interesting info regarding the music industry.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/the-album-is-in-deep-trouble-and-the-music-business-probably-cant-save-it-753795/
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[QUOTE] [b]Iron Butterfly wrote:[/b]
I'd like to see what he could come up with to be honest.
TwoFux isn't his best work. I knock that song, because it's not good song and the fact it took five people to come up with it. [/QUOTE]
I don't personally like it either but it's just one song and I can see his reason for doing it and it was mostly wrote before he had any hand in it.
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Sorry had to run an errand earlier.
I wish I knew exactly what input he had for TF. To me, it doesn't make much of a statement.
[QUOTE] [b]Sealion wrote:[/b]
I don’t know, with whom AL is writing his music and I don’t actually think it matters.
My question: What exactly would you people call“good songwriting“?
The all over the radio generic pop songs? They only work, because labels and radio are pushing them. They create their clients and MAKE them stars. Is there anything else, that’s successful at the moment?
I don’t really see it. Sorry. It’s another time and world and not comparable to the time, when the old rock bands created all these new kinds of music.
Now, there are thousands of bands and singers out there, who try to do the same.
Or do you want more original, creative and therefore risky songs?
I think Lamberts“Two Fux“ fits that bill. People like it or they don’t, but it’s different. I actually liked it. It has a catchy melody. The lyrics are personal and kinda funny. It’s a light song with a deeper meaning.
What if Justin Bieber sang it? The radio stations would have played it to death and it would have been a hit.
Lambert‘s 3rd album was produced by Max Martin. The man, who produces hit after hit. Again: Had for instance Adele sang the ballad „There I said it“, it might probably have been a hit.
No, the music industry is sick. They do have their formulas and today it is unfortunately worse than ever. A song like BoRhap would never see the sun today. A singer, who doesn’t do, what he‘s told, is cut short. Success is unfortunately not about songwriting. It‘s about fitting the industry‘s bill.
The really creative musicians play in garage bands.
Edit: I don’t mean to say, that AL songs are that good, that they must be hits. I tried to explain, that they aren’t worse than most of the hit songs by current superstars on the radio. ;)
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It amazes me in this day and age, people like Sam Smith and Adele make it...and have made such a splash in the music world. To me, they don't rely on gimmcks, tits and ass to do the talking for them.
I like some pop artists of today, Lady GaGa has proved also what she can do, and I think she's original in her music. She's the one breaking barriers these last few years with her music, style and career.
