Michael Jackson - New allegations in documentary: Leaving Neverland

The hate-campaign against Oprah is especially hypocritical. MJ loved Oprah and vice versa afaik (she is even in the HIStory book), but because she did the after Neverland interview she is evil?
The people trying to "debunk" the story or are have been publicly speaking out against it have some serious credibility issues. Wendy Williams ffs? Really? And the Jackson family? Hell I liked Rageaholic's Queen video, but he's a fucking MJ fan, how is he credible?
At least Oprah has had hundreds of victims on her show and has had a team of experts on her shows on this subject. Plus she is a "survivor".
Doesn't it seem likely that she knows what she is talking about? Also, would she go with this story if she didn't believe these guys were telling the truth?

Agree Fairy King.

I really can't listen to a lot of his songs after the shit storm.

In The Closet - He liked the closet
P.Y.T. - no explanation needed.
Bad - Yes, you were, Michael.
Smooth Criminal - Yes, you were, Michael.
Do You Know Where Your Children Are? - Are you kidding me?
You Are Not Alone - Written by R.Kelly xD
Leave Me Alone - No.
Black Or White? - White, apparently.

Could go on. XD

As I said up thread, I knew MJ’s music when he was still a boy. He was on the cover of all the teen mags when Donny Osmond wasn’t. I didn’t buy those mags, but used to look at the covers in the store. (I’m sure there were others on the covers but you know how memory is.)

Rockin’ Robin. Santa Clause is Comin’ to Town. Ben. ABC. I’m purposely choosing the more boyish songs.

He was the child star who came back with Off The Wall. And then his career exploded. And he became more and more strange as the years went by.

Oprah had a crush on one of the Jackson brothers when she was a girl. I can’t remember which one. Maybe Germaine?

I was actually expecting Leaving Neverland to be inconclusive BS leaving me with more questions than answers. I was not expecting to come away thinking the stories are completely believable. And I wouldn’t have if they had been violent stories. Instead, totally believable seduction.

[QUOTE] [b]The Fairy King wrote:[/b]

I really can't listen to a lot of his songs after the shit storm.

In The Closet - He liked the closet
P.Y.T. - no explanation needed.
Bad - Yes, you were, Michael.
Smooth Criminal - Yes, you were, Michael.
Do You Know Where Your Children Are? - Are you kidding me?
You Are Not Alone - Written by R.Kelly xD
Leave Me Alone - No.
Black Or White? - White, apparently.

Could go on. XD
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“Black Or White? - White, apparently.”

I LOLd.

The documentary was sad and extrememly disturbing. While it necessarily centred around MJ in this instance, I think the bigger lessons are around the way this happens to children generally. The elements of elevating the child to special status, the ingratiation with the family through manipulation, followed by covert efforts to separate the child from them not only physically but emotionally and psychologically as well. The initiation into a secret they are seduced and overwhelmed into keeping. It’s a hell of a black art, and successful pedophiles are necessarily masters of it.

[QUOTE] [b]Galileo1564 wrote:[/b]

As I said up thread, I knew MJ’s music when he was still a boy. He was on the cover of all the teen mags when Donny Osmond wasn’t. I didn’t buy those mags, but used to look at the covers in the store. (I’m sure there were others on the covers but you know how memory is.)

Rockin’ Robin. Santa Clause is Comin’ to Town. Ben. ABC. I’m purposely choosing the more boyish songs.

He was the child star who came back with Off The Wall. And then his career exploded. And he became more and more strange as the years went by.

Oprah had a crush on one of the Jackson brothers when she was a girl. I can’t remember which one. Maybe Germaine?

I was actually expecting Leaving Neverland to be inconclusive BS leaving me with more questions than answers. I was not expecting to come away thinking the stories are completely believable. And I wouldn’t have if they had been violent stories. Instead, totally believable seduction. [/QUOTE]

“And he became more and more strange as the years went by.”

A good deal of that strangeness was deliberately crafted. Bubbles the chimp, sleeping in the oxygen chamber or whatever that was, buying John Merrick’s bones etc. That certainly primed the pump for the world accepting his strange conduct with boys as just another part of an eccentric eternal child compensating for his own abbreviated childhood. Well, no, actually he’s an adult man who brings children into his bed abd has multiple locks on the entrance to his bedroom hallway and bells that go off to warn when someone is coming.

“I was actually expecting Leaving Neverland to be inconclusive BS leaving me with more questions than answers. I was not expecting to come away thinking the stories are completely believable.”

The only thing more compelling and believable than Leaving Neverland Part 1 is Leaving Neverland Part 2. Safechuck is just so damaged. It’s utterly heartwrenching.

Welcome back after all these years ...

I suppose that you are going back into lurker mode?

[QUOTE] [b]Saint Jiub wrote:[/b]

Welcome back after all these years ...

I suppose that you are going back into lurker mode?[/QUOTE]

If I coud remember how to post images, I’d post this.

https://images.app.goo.gl/XP6VxjEy4VNRcknY9

:)

LOL

Hardcore Jackson fans seem to be the most rabid and unpleasant of the lot (along with Beyonce fans, I'd say).

Holy cow, what an annoying cunt - the guy making the rebuttal vids, that is.

Wow, lots of ignorant people here.

A little research debunks the "documentary" completely.

[QUOTE] [b]innuendojou wrote:[/b]

Wow, lots of ignorant people here.

A little research debunks the "documentary" completely. [/QUOTE]

No it doesn't. That's wishful thinking by Jackson fans.


Edit: That's your first post?
Did you sign up to this forum just to post that comment?

[QUOTE] [b]Day dop wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]innuendojou wrote:[/b]

Wow, lots of ignorant people here.

A little research debunks the "documentary" completely. [/QUOTE]

No it doesn't. That's wishful thinking by Jackson fans.


Edit: That's your first post?
Did you sign up to this forum just to post that comment?[/QUOTE]

Jackson stans....Jackson stans everywhere! xD

I don't know how to quote on that forum, therefore, I'm going to post this directly, my apologies.

Yes, it gets debunked easily after a little research.

You can start your research by watching these videos first. I will gladly help you if you want me to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXOfz1YkWeA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw6T_05ZzoM

Yes, this is my first post on here, however, if that pleases you, I got my account in November 2018, have been a Queen fan since 2013, have been lurking around here since 2016.

Second of all, me, being a MJ fan doesn't change the facts. Do your research, I'm here if you want to discuss the subject in civil manners.

Edit: I learned how to quote, lol.