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OK, so I bought the book on kindle for $10.

I see what you did. You put text from the book up on this site and then gave us the links. I didn’t know that was what you were doing. I thought you just randomly found these quotes on that website.

Typical Greg Brooks I guess. No documentation at all. Clearly these quotes are from different years. Oh well. Probably all interviews with David Wigg.
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[QUOTE] [b]Galileo1564 wrote:[/b]

OK, so I bought the book on kindle for $10.

I see what you did. You put text from the book up on this site and then gave us the links. I didn’t know that was what you were doing. I thought you just randomly found these quotes on that website.

Typical Greg Brooks I guess. No documentation at all. Clearly these quotes are from different years. Oh well. Probably all interviews with David Wigg.[/QUOTE]

I'm doing a project right know when I'm trying to source the quotes from that book and it's a real mess. Sometimes half of sentence comes from one interview and the second half from another one. Once I'm done, I can share it if you want. But it won't be next week :D

There are not only DW interviews there is almost everything recorded or written down by various journalists. It is quite exciting to source all the quotes.
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Oh my goodness what a huge project. I would love if if you shared that!

I’m just assuming that any discussion of his sex life is with DW. I realize it’s not just DW for the whole book. ;)
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mika I listened to all the david wigg interviews from the Freddie Mercury solo collection yesterday. I was nice to hear him say some of the things that I had only seen in print inthe book 'Freddie in his own words.
Even in this book there are parts of what Freddie said in interviews missed out. Also the book has quotes mentioned more than once and you can't fathom when he said them.

I have never seen in anywhere other than in Greg's book the part when he says he wants to get in the shower after sex in case that time gave him the virus.

I am looking for a few sources if you have them

have you seen any source where Brian/Roger actually said 'freddie is the happiest we have seen him ' . A lot of people refer to this when talking about Freddie and Jim. I would prefer to know this is true before believing it.

Mika you are great by the way and Id love to see it when you have finished
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I didn't source this particular "after sex" source yet. But I'm only at the beginning. :) I'm quite annoyed because I didn't think it will be such mess. I thought at least sentences will be kept as a whole but no, it's all one big chaos. There are also factual inaccuracies such as the quote seems to be about Night at the Opera album and when you locate the original quote you find out he spoke about Sheer heart attack.
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So has anyone read Queen album by album martin popoff is it any good?
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I haven't read this book. I have read 40 years of queen and another which I can't remember the name of right ow. Its by Marc Blake. I thought both were good and gave lots of information on the band without focusing just on Freddie
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I have read most of the books on Freddie or Queen. Am I the only one who thought that David Minns This is the Real Life was kinda harsh.

The way he portrays Freddie is violent. I did notice in the biggest fight they have it's all from his point of view and lists no actions he actually did. I am sure it wasn't just David sitting there while Freddie threw things at him and then just unprovoked hit him on the head with a glass candlestick.

I made an idiot out of myself on Instagram and said that freddie wasn't violent. Then someone references that book. Idk what to think at the moment. Freddie seems like he could be phyisically violent towards his lovers and that is seriously disappointing and disheartening. What is your view on it?
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Perk....I didn't finish This is the Real Life feeling it was harsh on Freddie. I have found out enough about Freddie from when he first started out with the band until his death to realize he was far from perfect. When he first starting seeing David and remember it was Freddie that went after David, Freddie was still with Mary and was most likely really struggling juggling them both and this likely caused bouts of anger caused by frustration. At the time Freddie seemed to be quite a diva and it must have been very hard having a relationship with him.
I have seen evidence that Freddie loved David, there are notes he wrote to David confirming this.
The book was written by David Evans and David Minns so it will be from their point of view. From memory of the book , David and Freddie had a row and David hit Freddie over the head with whatever it was and Freddie punched him him back. Yes I agree David started it and in truth reading it all these years later it's quite amusing if you picture the scene of two gay men fighting . Wasn't it because Freddie had decided to go to the beach with another guy that started it all? I can't quite remember.

Anyway I didn't finish the book thinking freddie or david were violent, I just put it down to a heated row that went to far.

Apart from this I don't recall other instances of Freddie being violent towards boyfriends although he did used to get into big rows with them verbally as he helped his creative output. He once said if he falls in love and has a lovely relationship bang goes all the best songs .

The problem with Freddie was he had a couple of his lovers cheat on him and that gave him trust issues but at the same time he found it perfectly ok to cheat on them.

In short this is what made Freddie such an interesting and complex character and why we all want to find out about him
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That relationship was toxic and they both were pretty shitty to each other. I got the feeling that David was a very sensitive person and a bit of a whiner, because for a whole book he just talked about how horrible was Freddie to him, but brushed off his own wrong doings (like throwing ashtrays or hitting head with clogs). And I think that a lot of their fights that they had, had a lot to do with internalized homophobia, keeping in mind that Freddie's parents were homophobic and judgemental. Also, we have to remember that this story is written from David's perspective and it's gonna be biased. There was a discussion about this book a few pages back, and I think it was pretty spot on.
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This is what Paul Prenter said about their fight in that interview with The Sun:
"Prenter told how the singer took his friend David Minns with him to Florida – but soon went off to the beach with a camp American dancer called Dane Clark.

"Minns screamed at Freddie calling him a 'faceless hussy'," said Prenter.

"Later in the hotel lift, Minns suddenly took off his shoe and started beating Freddie over the head.

"Freddie smacked Minns in the teeth and he collapsed on the floor.""

https://4imaroza.livejournal.com/1101.html
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I don't take much notice of what is printed in the sun but this story from Paul matches with David Minns account . I really can't blame David for being pissed with Freddie . Who would like to see their man/woman flirting with another on purpose. That is just what Freddie used to do even right up to the begging of his relationship with Jim.

David must have been very pisssed to have hit Freddie with his shoe but in the heat of the moment who are we to judge, we weren't there .

Also remember that Freddie came back from the US with Joe Fanelli and was more than happy to continue a relationship with both of them. When things started to go wrong with joe, Freddie would go back to David moaning about it. Can't say I'd be best pleased with this.

Also don't forget Freddie wanted David to sign an agreement that he wouldn't dish any dirt.

In conclusion they were probably both a nightmare but Freddie in my opinion could of treated David better. Freddie hit on Jim and pulled him into his mad world and he did the same with David although with David he had mixed in the same circles.

I think we have to acknowledge that Freddie wasn't the best in relationships , even though he was searching for lasting love, he couldn't remain faithful. You can't expect a partner to remain faithful but cheat yourself.
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Yeah, but at least they made up and became friends again. Freddie himself has said in a few interviews that he wasn't very good at relationships. He also had lots of insecurities and they probably affected his behaviour. Also, in the 70s and 80s same sex relationships weren't viewed equally to heterosexual relationships and Freddie was a rock star, so that could have made it even more difficult to create a meaningful relationship.

I also read that book by Rosemary Pearson, Freddie's first girlfriend and from what was written about him, it looks like he was kind of an emotional wreck in the late 60s.
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I have read many articles and books about Queen that are listed here. Also, I am now reading books that they indicated in various interviews. In fact, they made a lot of links to the [url=https://fb2bookfree.com/classic/]classical literature[/url] that I download from this site. Although, Freddie didn't like reading books.