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Never knew people had such strong opinions on Hyde Park 76.
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Holly2003
[QUOTE] [b]blueroom wrote:[/b]
Never knew people had such strong opinions on Hyde Park 76.[/QUOTE]
Hadn't you heard? There is a conspiracy of homophobes, led by Brian May, to hide Fred's 1970s dong from public view.
Never knew people had such strong opinions on Hyde Park 76.[/QUOTE]
Hadn't you heard? There is a conspiracy of homophobes, led by Brian May, to hide Fred's 1970s dong from public view.
Fireplace
[QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]blueroom wrote:[/b]
Never knew people had such strong opinions on Hyde Park 76.[/QUOTE]
Hadn't you heard? There is a conspiracy of homophobes, led by Brian May, to hide Fred's 1970s dong from public view.
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Sorry to correct you there, but Fred was hidden from PUBIC view.
[QUOTE] [b]blueroom wrote:[/b]
Never knew people had such strong opinions on Hyde Park 76.[/QUOTE]
Hadn't you heard? There is a conspiracy of homophobes, led by Brian May, to hide Fred's 1970s dong from public view.
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Sorry to correct you there, but Fred was hidden from PUBIC view.
brians wig
[QUOTE] [b]Toozeup wrote:[/b]
Hyde Park was recorded for broadcast but dodgy power supplies on the day led to severe speed fluctuations of both the audio and video recordings. This is the reason it was never broadcast or officially released. QPL have made efforts to fix it but as you can tell from even the most recent clips in documentaries, Freddie's vocals still exhitbit wow and flutter.
Recent Queen tape transfers have been done at Plangent who I believe did a lot of work to try and correct the Hyde Park issues as they already have in-house software for correcting speed fluctuations. Our best hope for an official Hyde Park release is that one day the software will be good enough to deal with more severe speed issues.[/QUOTE]
Wow.
All this slagging off going on and nobody has picked up on THIS ^^^^^ !!!
I've not heard this info before "Toozeup".
Where's it from please?
Hyde Park was recorded for broadcast but dodgy power supplies on the day led to severe speed fluctuations of both the audio and video recordings. This is the reason it was never broadcast or officially released. QPL have made efforts to fix it but as you can tell from even the most recent clips in documentaries, Freddie's vocals still exhitbit wow and flutter.
Recent Queen tape transfers have been done at Plangent who I believe did a lot of work to try and correct the Hyde Park issues as they already have in-house software for correcting speed fluctuations. Our best hope for an official Hyde Park release is that one day the software will be good enough to deal with more severe speed issues.[/QUOTE]
Wow.
All this slagging off going on and nobody has picked up on THIS ^^^^^ !!!
I've not heard this info before "Toozeup".
Where's it from please?
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Can you also provide an example of where speed fluctuation is present on any documentary footage that has been broadcast?
Negative Creep
Calling bullshit on that. The speed fluctuations are on the high generation VHS dubs, not the various master tapes.
thomasquinn 32989
[QUOTE] [b]Negative Creep wrote:[/b]
Calling bullshit on that. The speed fluctuations are on the high generation VHS dubs, not the various master tapes.[/QUOTE]
It's likely that you're right. But I don't see how we could be sure about that unless we'd have access to either the master tape itself or a copy with a different lineage for comparison. I think we have to call this "undetermined".
Calling bullshit on that. The speed fluctuations are on the high generation VHS dubs, not the various master tapes.[/QUOTE]
It's likely that you're right. But I don't see how we could be sure about that unless we'd have access to either the master tape itself or a copy with a different lineage for comparison. I think we have to call this "undetermined".
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[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Negative Creep wrote:[/b]
Calling bullshit on that. The speed fluctuations are on the high generation VHS dubs, not the various master tapes.[/QUOTE]
It's likely that you're right. But I don't see how we could be sure about that unless we'd have access to either the master tape itself or a copy with a different lineage for comparison. I think we have to call this "undetermined".[/QUOTE]
This is why I asked for an example of TV documentary footage where it is present, then it could be determined.
In all the footage I have collected over the years I have only noticed the speed fluctuations on video recordings which originate from QTV broadcasts.
On these recordings the speed fluctuations occur in the same place the video becomes unstable.
White Queen is a good example, but there are lower generation copies where it isn't apparent.
[QUOTE] [b]Negative Creep wrote:[/b]
Calling bullshit on that. The speed fluctuations are on the high generation VHS dubs, not the various master tapes.[/QUOTE]
It's likely that you're right. But I don't see how we could be sure about that unless we'd have access to either the master tape itself or a copy with a different lineage for comparison. I think we have to call this "undetermined".[/QUOTE]
This is why I asked for an example of TV documentary footage where it is present, then it could be determined.
In all the footage I have collected over the years I have only noticed the speed fluctuations on video recordings which originate from QTV broadcasts.
On these recordings the speed fluctuations occur in the same place the video becomes unstable.
White Queen is a good example, but there are lower generation copies where it isn't apparent.
thomasquinn 32989
Ok, now that's definitely an indicator. When you say "it isn't apparent", could it have been 'fixed', or does it truly seem like it was never present?
brians wig
As far as I'm aware, the official reason given as to why HP hasn't and never will be released in full, is because they don't have the full multitracks for every song.
Of course, if this information is out of date, I'm sure Bob will correct me
Of course, if this information is out of date, I'm sure Bob will correct me
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]brians wig wrote:[/b]
As far as I'm aware, the official reason given as to why HP hasn't and never will be released in full, is because they don't have the full multitracks for every song.
Of course, if this information is out of date, I'm sure Bob will correct me[/QUOTE]
I have no idea. The only people who know are people who have listened to the tapes.
All I can tell you is not a note of them has come out apart from You Take My Breath Away. Everything else in documentaries is from the mono video feed.
The fact that the only song to emerge has no guitar, bass, drums, or backing vocals may suggest that one or more of those tracks on the 24 track tape may be damaged, but of course that's just speculation.
As far as I'm aware, the official reason given as to why HP hasn't and never will be released in full, is because they don't have the full multitracks for every song.
Of course, if this information is out of date, I'm sure Bob will correct me[/QUOTE]
I have no idea. The only people who know are people who have listened to the tapes.
All I can tell you is not a note of them has come out apart from You Take My Breath Away. Everything else in documentaries is from the mono video feed.
The fact that the only song to emerge has no guitar, bass, drums, or backing vocals may suggest that one or more of those tracks on the 24 track tape may be damaged, but of course that's just speculation.
Jake12
I had noticed that too. Always wondered why Take my breath away was the only real release from anything from HP but with that theory it does make sense
Negative Creep
Sweet Lady was officially released - as a bonus on a DVD (ANAO documentary bonus?). I haven't watched the DVD in a long long time, but I'm guessing this is ripped from it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyOlAkXvOrk
The audio on that is fine, although it does seem to be mono (could be a conversion thing or not) - if it's the original live/rough mix then it is (obviously) much cleaner than the bootlegs. The sound fluctuation comment is obviously just based on the bootlegs - the master of the rough cut is clearly fine based on the above. There's always whispers about supposed technically reasons for things like this and Earls Court not being released, but it's because of Brian and his so called perfectionism (and the fact he clearly doesn't rate Queen very highly as a live band thourh the 70's at least).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyOlAkXvOrk
The audio on that is fine, although it does seem to be mono (could be a conversion thing or not) - if it's the original live/rough mix then it is (obviously) much cleaner than the bootlegs. The sound fluctuation comment is obviously just based on the bootlegs - the master of the rough cut is clearly fine based on the above. There's always whispers about supposed technically reasons for things like this and Earls Court not being released, but it's because of Brian and his so called perfectionism (and the fact he clearly doesn't rate Queen very highly as a live band thourh the 70's at least).
bucsateflon
If BM decided is not worthy for a release, than it's no debate about it...he is RIGHT!
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[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]
Ok, now that's definitely an indicator. When you say "it isn't apparent", could it have been 'fixed', or does it truly seem like it was never present?[/QUOTE]
The lower gen mono tapes (with TCR) have not been "fixed", but do not suffer from the same severe "wow and flutter" as the recordings from QTV broadcasts:
Stereo clip from TV documentary broadcast: