Mr Bad Guy - Special edition

Yes, I agree. They should've enlisted remixers to create a new BONUS techno song LOVE ME LIKE THERE'S MR DANGEROUS


I'm just upset that they've effectively put the original BARCELONA out of print.

Guess they technically created a new work from the redo and wish to reap in better percentages.

It's the only thing that'd explain how they'd release a VERY inferior version of his DUET album with MONTSERRAT CABALLE

....or as the Brits called her "Montserrat Kabali "

Chief Mouse, re:

>Pre-ordered it from the Queen official website a couple days ago. To be honest, I'm quite excited for the new mix :)

Wishing you all the very best with it, but, remember, you're free to return the disc(s) as faulty if they are as I believe they will turn out to be - highly polished turds.

Have to ask what actually is the point of this release?

Fred gave up on it once the mix was completed and returned to Queen after getting over his hissy fit. Is this just an attempt to give a bit of legitimacy to a release that was botched from the very start or, will the new "mix" just be making it sound more "Queen".

Would love for it to be **BETTER** but, unless it's taken over by John and Roger with guitar parts added by Brian "off piste", there's very little chance it will have any value.

[QUOTE] [b]dudeofqueen wrote:[/b]

Chief Mouse, re:

>Pre-ordered it from the Queen official website a couple days ago. To be honest, I'm quite excited for the new mix :)

Wishing you all the very best with it, but, remember, you're free to return the disc(s) as faulty if they are as I believe they will turn out to be - highly polished turds.

Have to ask what actually is the point of this release?

Fred gave up on it once the mix was completed and returned to Queen after getting over his hissy fit. Is this just an attempt to give a bit of legitimacy to a release that was botched from the very start or, will the new "mix" just be making it sound more "Queen".

Would love for it to be **BETTER** but, unless it's taken over by John and Roger with guitar parts added by Brian "off piste", there's very little chance it will have any value.[/QUOTE]

There's some decent tracks on Mr Bad Guy. I've always quite liked the alum. If the production is improved / updated, I don't see that as a bad thing at all.

Tbh, after Brian and Roger's version of IWBTLY, I'd rather they kept away from it. Taking the last couple of decades or so into consideration, I really don't have much faith left in Roger and Brian's creative abilities anymore.

I already have the original version in the Freddie Mercury Solo Collection, and the original Mr Bad guy on vinyl as well. So I pre-ordered it on CD.

Really surprising that the whole bass track has been re-recorded; bizarre that the original take has been deemed not good enough - I wonder how the original player feels about that? (I assume he’s still alive??) I also wonder if that is the case for the whole album and not just this track?

Does anyone know if Mack is aware - and is so - whether he has commented - on the Mr Bad Guy treatment?

A guy called Jo Burt played bass on the original Man Made Paradise. He was one of, if not the best bass player I ever saw live. He was in a band called Sector 27 with Tom Robinson and led the band after Tom left. Anyhow, he was freaking awesome on his fretless bass. Bouncing around the stage playing these awesome runs and slides.

Anyhow, I'd be surprised if they replaced his bass work. Unless the tapes were shot.

Not sure what happened to him after.
Think I'll throw on my 12" of Excalibur, give his fingers a listen.

Maybe it's got something to do with releases and copyright.


Maybe this new edition sees Fairclough in for some major percentage residuals


Unless the tapes were poorly recorded....who really knows. I WISH i wasted time investigating just this kind of stuff

[QUOTE] [b]Day dop wrote:[/b]

Taking the last couple of decades or so into consideration, I really don't have much faith left in Roger and Brian's creative abilities anymore. [/QUOTE]
True Roger's solo albums were so-so but Brian did absolutely NOTHING apart from a few collaborations and The ELlis ALbums which were mainly covers.

Sad as he was a prolific songwriter-where has the passion for creating gone?

[QUOTE] [b]dudeofqueen wrote:[/b]

Chief Mouse, re:

>Pre-ordered it from the Queen official website a couple days ago. To be honest, I'm quite excited for the new mix :)

Wishing you all the very best with it, but, remember, you're free to return the disc(s) as faulty if they are as I believe they will turn out to be - highly polished turds.

Have to ask what actually is the point of this release?

Fred gave up on it once the mix was completed and returned to Queen after getting over his hissy fit. Is this just an attempt to give a bit of legitimacy to a release that was botched from the very start or, will the new "mix" just be making it sound more "Queen".

Would love for it to be **BETTER** but, unless it's taken over by John and Roger with guitar parts added by Brian "off piste", there's very little chance it will have any value.[/QUOTE]

Since I don't own the album in any form, I figured this might be worth getting on vinyl. Why not, I like a couple songs on it and I think they should sound a bit better than the originals. Your opinion is valid but so are my choices.

I personally consider Mr. Bad Guy the worst of all the guys' solo efforts, so I won't be buying this. However, since I'm occasionally, and inexplicably, able to view things with some detachment, it does seem to me that Mr. Bad Guy suffered from almost inconceivably sloppy production, so a return to the multitracks and a completely new mix and, if the vague hints are true, some re-recorded parts, might well improve the record considerably.

I still don't think it'll be a great record, because most of the songs just aren't that great IMHO, and because it's aged poorly (riding a this-year's-model trend for a club audience was never likely to age well). But if you disagree with me on this and do like Mr. Bad Guy, then I think you have a good chance of getting a marked improvement here.

[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]

I personally consider Mr. Bad Guy the worst of all the guys' solo efforts, so I won't be buying this. However, since I'm occasionally, and inexplicably, able to view things with some detachment, it does seem to me that Mr. Bad Guy suffered from almost inconceivably sloppy production, so a return to the multitracks and a completely new mix and, if the vague hints are true, some re-recorded parts, might well improve the record considerably.

I still don't think it'll be a great record, because most of the songs just aren't that great IMHO, and because it's aged poorly (riding a this-year's-model trend for a club audience was never likely to age well). But if you disagree with me on this and do like Mr. Bad Guy, then I think you have a good chance of getting a marked improvement here.[/QUOTE]

Cmon you really think Fun In Space or Fun On Earth are better albums? MBG was a disposable pop album that had some great tunes. And the voice alone makes it worth purchasing

MACK was asked what he thinks of it on FB. His answer: "I have no idea what they are up to". There is friction between Queen(Productions) and especially Maylor and MACK wonder what happened?!?
He wasnt even invited to the BR premiere

I asked Mack on Facebook if he had been involved/consulted/what he thought of the remix and replacement of bass parts...his reply is:

“No idea what they are up to” !

Two schools of thought:

1) he was a hired hand as engineer/producer/mixer and would have been paid accordingly at the time so it’s nothing to do with him, or
2) knowing his closeness to Freddie (and the band for a long period) and that he was so involved with Me Bad Guy, courtesy would suggest they at least let him know this was happening and what their reasons are.

Still, Mike Moran has been excluded from Barcelona and that’s pretty much as much his product as Freddie’s, so on those grounds Jim Beach is clearly not bothered who he upsets.


Incidentally, I still think Brian doesn’t have much regard for Mack - he put him out of his comfort zone with different recording methods and clearly formed a close bond with Freddie, and didn’t pander to some of Brian’s ways in the studio. Brian also publicly disparaged him when ‘Rock Montreal’ came out, suggesting the original audio mix left a lot to be desired and had now been sorted ....totally unjust when it was probably their best sounding live audio at the time...Rio and Japan 85 were/are FAR worse!

Wow, amazing if they redid any of the MBG tracks, even subtly.

I bet that if it got a similar treatment to Barcelona 2012, the result could be a lot more pleasing. MBG has aged poorly and its brilliance was marred by unworthy production.