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Oh my gosh, such interesting conversation! First of all....Alba, LMAO! I was thinking the same thing “not just height”!

Don’t remember the commode thing so I’ll be watching for that on this read. Kinda surprising that’s not sticking out in my memory but I tend to fall down the research hole when I’m reading about Freddie and will look up pics of people, places or listen to a song that’s mentioned so, obviously I get side tracked!

JB, pg. 50. Though it sounds like you may have found it? Will prob add that to my list if I ever get a chance to talk to Phoebe....no boat trip listed yet :(

Katy, thanks for the Phoebe quote, I remember that now and I agree, Freddie was beautiful on the outside as well :).

Alba, when I first saw your comment I thought "What?????" and then, LOL, I got it. Very good!

I've just finished the chapter on the making of the videos. Made me want to go back and watch some of them. It also made me that much more eager for Rudi's book because it sounds as if it will be loaded with behind the scenes stories.

Katy- how cool. His book should be so interesting!

I just read page 50!! Wow!! What an important and compassionate paragraph. I need to read it a few times, but do see it as Peter’s deep understanding of the way Freddie needed to function to do what he did and where it cane from in his life and then connect it to creative geniuses and process what they need emotionally. How the pain in their life is a driving factor, which I’m sure we all know Trtp some extent. This is also a beautifully written and insightful sentence:

“Anger is the furnace which forges genius bit it is also one of the fuels which drives the whole process of creativity forward.” And to compare to Beethoven and his going def... and the last songs Freddie wrote...
Almost sounds like he is talking about what drives creativity, even in the most dire times. Necessary evil??

Amidds, I am So glad you brought out this paragraph to discuss!!

Lol, JB, glad you enjoyed the topic that was born of my ignorance! That’s ok, it was interesting!

Not getting too far too fast in this book but am on pg 56 and there are 2 mentions of Thor with incidents I dont remember him talking about; a NY concert where FM invited Thor and others to outnumber Bill Reid’s invited guests (hilarious) and Thor’s familiarity and introduction to Freddie of Houston. Does anyone else remember these 2, admittedly small, incidents? I’m kind and surprised it wasnt brought up in those other 3 threads but wouldn’t be surprised if I just forgot.

So like a dog that is easily distracted by the squirrel....I had to go and look up the double crown subject! I will have to look into it further, as now it has fascinated me. In China, a double crown is considered a sign of genius, and in India it is a sign of extreme intelligence (and naughtiness, lol!). There may be a link to autism as well...I am wondering if somehow a savant characteristic may be involved? Anyhow, I thought this might interest you guys. I will have to do more research on it. I know some are skeptical, but I raised horses for many years and there is a science behind a horse’s forehead hair swirls (location, direction of swirl and double swirls) and behavior or temperament. I found it to be quite accurate.

Amidds, I found a few references to Thor and Lee’s activities in Phoebe’s book that I don’t recall them telling, and I read every single one of the posts in those threads of hundreds! It also made it more exciting to read the book, as this time through I could recognize them and it was fun knowing I had a remote link. I don’t remember even reading much about them the first time through the book, so it really shocked me to realize that Phoebe had talked about them so much. He certainly had lovely things to say about them, it made me smile!

My human zoo, I been reading and enjoying what you guys have been writing .I dont read much but I do love for someone to interpret books for me to read their opinions.I agree with all you guys I love phoebe and the boys .Freddie had great men in his life.Yes I'm talking about Thor too!Now we can put a face to a name thanks to the threads.Thank you Thor!

MHZ, I didn't know there was significance to the double crown. That's interesting! I can just imagine the trouble Freddie had with that double crown. I wonder if he knew the significance attributed to it in India.

I've finished the book but I'll jump in if I have something to contribute.

Xx

Hope you guys have happy discussions this fine day.Just trying to keep this fine place where it belongs carry on.

Oh what fresh hell is this?!?!? Lol, I’ll come back when things calm down ;)

Hey, it's not an internal troll and I don't think it will be a big deal. We really don't need to do anything at all. I don't think it's that important to hold "position". Both of our threads are large enough to bounce right back up to the first page if that is important to anyone. I suspect the monitors will remove the bot posts and that will be that. Hope you won't stay away Amidds. I'm stopping by here more frequently because you guys stick to Queen/Freddie posts and that's why I"m on QZ. I'd miss your posts if you stay away! I may not post much but I do stop in every day. : )

Oh no, sorry Katy, I was just kidding. I saw all of that when I popped in and figured it would slow things up for a few days. Last time, things got so quiet for a few days! Still (slowly) doing my reading and will drop in when I come across something interesting!

Yeah, last time it was two internal trolls fighting. I don't think we'll have the same havoc this time. BTW, I don't come here through QZ. I have this and Thor's thread marked as favorites so I can come here directly. Every once in a while I check the other threads to see if there is anything interesting so I saw what had happened.

As I said a few posts back, I finished the book. I hope someone comes up with something to discuss. I will say I got bogged down in Phoebe's description of Garden Lodge, and that happens every time I read the book. This time I vowed to concentrate and really try to picture the house but I end up feeling like I'm in a maze. Still sounds absolutely exquisite with the furnishings and paintings. I think what I need is blueprints! Two of my friends were in London a week ago and sent me a picture of them standing in front of GL. That's the closest I'll ever get and I was as thrilled as if it had been me.

I'm also interested to see what you guys think of the sharing of Freddie's final days. Not as graphic as Jim's book, but still I have to wonder if Freddie would have wanted that time shared.

I’m with you Katydid, on the overly in-depth description of Garden Lodge. I appreciate that Phoebe was trying to describe it so we could all imagine being there in person, but for me it just got too detailed. If I were more educated on types of materials and very high end decorating terms maybe I would get it, but being a layperson most of it went over my head. What exactly is a Louis XIV fauteuil? I know I could go google all this stuff but it’s not really something I need to know in detail. I get it that some people are fascinated to know that stuff so it’s fine, but I probably would have preferred more stories about Freddie himself instead of all the Garden Lodge description.

One thing that struck me as odd in the book was when Phoebe said that he was considering leaving Freddie because he was kind of getting the cold shoulder...and it ended up that they suspected him of leaking info to the press. I realize that Freddie had trouble with confrontation and such, but it sure seems like someone as trusted as Phoebe would have at least been tipped off by someone else in the house about what was happening? I just can’t imagine being treated like that after all his dedication. I suppose maybe the others were just happy it wasn’t them being suspected, but still it seems so off considering how close they all were for years. Kind of sad that Phoebe had to go through that!