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Thanks, Katy for the correction, I guess I missed that. I'm impressed that you keep files. :)

Oh, and thanks Rainbow!

JB050, If you think about Freddie was a musical prostitute passionate about his music it was his life.He poured his heart and soul into it.It was his dream he worked hard for it put in long hours to achieve the fame.He sang to his voice bleed that's determination.Folks that love music and have the appreciation for it want to be around it and that's exactly what Freddie did.I played piano and Guitar as a kid and still do but cant say I had that passion.Who can say they got to live out their dream well Freddie did.He played for a little band called the heritics in school which alot of young boys do in school.He then went on to fame and turned this struggling band named smile and renamed it QUEEN by the way and became the star he told his college buddies he said he would.They are still rocking that name today.

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Oh I forgot about his college band he had one of those too sour milk sea I believe.I will have to research that's before my time lol.

Thank goodness Rainbow has the encyclopedia brain! : ) I am excited about both books coming out, truly hopeful Rudi’s has new stuff in it. I would think maybe he would have done interviews prior to this, but I do understand the new fervor about all things Freddie and Queen after the movie success. Hopefully he has lots of good nuggets about what Freddie was like creatively and in the process, I would love to hear that. Rudi is so cute (yes a little sickening too, but new love has got to make you smile!) with his Schatzi! Which reminds me...I wanted to ask, does anyone know why Rudi and Hannes were called the Torpedo twins? Maybe I read it at some point but I sure can’t remember it. I’m also wondering if he is/was on good terms with Hans...he never really talks about him except to call him his ex-work partner, but I wasn’t sure if I was reading something into that.

I think Thor and Lee’s book will be awesome too...Freddie from a friend perspective and I hope some new pictures from Lee!

As for reading pants...I have mine as well...they are leggings usually....all manner of Queen and Freddie images on them. I will have to snap a picture next time I’m reading!

My human zoo, Rudi is so cute for a older man I find older men attractive.How old is he?His gf is gorgeous too.I do love those leggings too.Perfect for a jogg or reading a good book.I do think both books have good things to offer to me the personal stuff intrigues me more.I dont want to know so much about the work environment but the man behind the magic.

MHZ, I know I've seen an explanation for the Tornado Twins, but I couldn't find it today. Not much out there on Hannes. The only thing I saw is that their company, DORO, filed for bankruptcy in 2003 and they've had little contact since.

MHZ,it might be a question for Rudi he is a super nice guy he loves to answer questions.Our bunch seems to have good luck with him.

Speaking of Rudi he was running earlier he cares about his health.Thats probably why he looks so well for his age.He hasn't changed much at all.I watched the days of our lives video and the way he helps Freddie down the steps is so loving and caring.You can tell he had great respect for him.

Amidds, Are you back from Florida yet?I was reading what you wrote about Freddie keeping his Friends separate and they hardly ever crossed paths except everybody knew Mary but she was a special person to him that would make sense.Peter Straker and his crew was kept separate from his other friends on the other hand though Peter knew Barbara Valentin because there were pics of them at functions together.I wonder did Straker not get along with some of Freddie's other friends was he trying to avoid conflict.Curious minds want to know now that you mention it.

hi all, I was just skimming through your posts and wanted to say that last year Phoebe did a tour of Kensington with some Italian fans and this included GL. It was Phoebe that said Mary was no longer living in GL and that it is now empty. The mews of still there as i'm pretty sure that is where she now lives.

Her sons are grown up now and have prob flown the nest so I imagine GL is just too big for her.

I also agree with you Katy about Phoebe's view of Freddie and love. I too found this confusing when reading. I have always felt that he was capable of loving one special person and that to me is what he was searching for. If you look at his performances of 'someone to love' in the 1980's he tended to start off asking for somebody to love before starting the actual song. At one show he sang ' will somebody find someone to love ME' .

I think he made his feelings for Jim quite clear in 1987 but we will never know for sure how things would have panned out had freddie been healthy. I do feel that Freddie loved Jim very much but to confuse matters even more with regards to what Peter says, during the tour he said that he is always asked who he loved more. He replied that he didn't love mary in the sense people wanted him to have and at the time of his death, he had a special place in his heart for Jim.

I do think that although Peter knew Freddie very well, he couldn't have been party to all of Freddie's personal thoughts and feelings . I feel that Freddie must have held some things back to himself or just for him and Jim.

“Yesterday's story ended with the sentence that indicated Mary as Freddie's widow and did not take Jim Hutton into account. I would therefore like to shed light on this subject, the relationship between him and Jim.
Jim Hutton was the man who gave Freddie all he wanted: stability, love, serenity and simplicity. In the first part of his life there are parties, and excesses as he approached forty he needed normality. Jim gave him all this!
I received a lot of messages asking if he loved Jim more than Mary, I say he was in the place to be with the person he wanted next! If he loved Mary more, I would have had no reason not to be with her! Surely Mary was a great love and a great friend and certainly influenced Freddie's choices very much but at the time of death he was not in love with her in the sense that everyone would like ... that part of his heart belonged to Hutton.”

Here we have it people!!!!!!

https://www.momconfidential.net/…/freddie-the-real-life-day… (this is the link but you will need to translate it)

Thanks for that link, Doughnut. I believe I came across that link as well, though I never looked at a translation of the interview. I'm still baffled as to why some "fans" have such a problem with Jim and Freddie's relationship. It's clear from interviews--in print and audio--that those who knew the two men believed their relationship was successful and fulfilling. I think there's a real strain of homophobia involved, that some can't imagine that two men could meet, fall in love, and create a content, happy home together. I know there was a troll on QZ last spring and summer, before I found this site, who claimed all sorts of hideous behaviors on Jim's part and I'm baffled as to why someone would spend so much time creating a fantasy about someone they've never met. I think that troll has moved over to Quora, as I see someone with the same arguments and anecdotes making the same claims. Sheesh.

I don't want to weigh in too much on the Freddie/Mary relationship, but she was clearly a friend and someone he'd taken care of for a couple of decades.

I also found Phoebe's explanation of love odd--it didn't really make much sense to me, either. As well, I recall that his books were both written in the 90s, not too many years after Freddie's death. I think it can take time and distance from the death of a loved one to fully evaluated and understand the roll played by that loved one. I imagine Phoebe had great love for Freddie and that it took years to fully incorporate Freddie's impact on Phoebe's life. That evolution of thought and emotion would color his observations, perhaps changing some beliefs from the first years after Freddie's death to something more nuanced and mature in the decades that follow.

Doughnut, I totally agree with you on the Mary and Jim subject.He did have a special place for Mary but I feel him being a gay man couldnt provide her with the love that she desired from him..I know she undoubtedly loved him I think he gave her what love he could give at the time but his heart was with Jim Hutton who he considered him his husband which made him very happy.I do love his love story ending.