Mr Bad Guy - Special edition

runner_70 wrote:THe new version seems to suck out the life completely out of it

This is how I feel about the vast majority of the new mixes.

I gave the special edition a couple of listens this morning, and I greatly prefer the original. I like Mack's production. I like the poppy, '80s energy. I like the drum sound. I like the reverb (especially on My Love Is Dangerous and Love Me Like There's No Tomorrow, which are both dry as a bone now),

Maybe this new version will grow on me in time, but I just don't see it right now. I'm not a fan.

Agreed. Whatever way remixes are technically better for the waveform beardstrokers - they also generally ruin the X factor the original had.

The original Mr Bad Guy isn't generally regarded unfavourably because the yeah yeah bit at the end of Love Is Dangerous wasn't quite given it's own clear space in the stereo spectrum.

dysan wrote:

Agreed. Whatever way remixes are technically better for the waveform beardstrokers - they also generally ruin the X factor the original had.

The original Mr Bad Guy isn't generally regarded unfavourably because the yeah yeah bit at the end of Love Is Dangerous wasn't quite given it's own clear space in the stereo spectrum.

Waveform studies aren't required, My ears do the job just fine.

No one said that Mr Bad Guy was regarded unfavourably because of the "yeah yeah" bit at the end of Love is Dangerous. The only one debating that is you in your own mind.

I was making a general observation and quoted you as an example. I'm sorry if you thought it was an attack.

dysan wrote:

I was making a general observation and quoted you as an example. I'm sorry if you thought it was an attack.

You didn't quote me. The observation you made was invalid, as no one said what you perceived they said.

Your apology isn't necessary, I didn't take it as a personal attack.

I don't want to get grubby on here, but you said 'The "yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah" at the end of My Love is Dangerous (3:32) is far more audible now.' which I quoted.

What did I perceive was said? What observation did I make? Why are you now attacking me?

dysan wrote:

I don't want to get grubby on here, but you said 'The "yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah" at the end of My Love is Dangerous (3:32) is far more audible now.' which I quoted.

What did I perceive was said? What observation did I make? Why are you now attacking me?

There's no quotation marks, hence I said you didn't quote me.

Previously you wrote, "The original Mr Bad Guy isn't generally regarded unfavourably because the yeah yeah bit at the end of Love Is Dangerous wasn't quite given it's own clear space in the stereo spectrum."

As I said, no one had said otherwise, though you'd perceived they had (you in fact since said you quoted me, not that you had). Only you invented that argument that I quoted above. Why it was originally regarded unfavourably hadn't even been mentioned until you bought it up.
You asked, "what observation did I make"?. You previously wrote, "I was making a general observation and quoted you as an example"
I've since pointed out your observation was based on your perception and not what I said, and it was an invalid observation.

You're not being attacked. Your argument is.

It's a review of a remixed album where each observation posted on the new mix is either a pro or a con, or an equal compared to the old mix. I picked a previous observation you had posted and used it to illustrate why a remix is not really necessary or of artist worth (whether I believe that or not) - neither to argue against the findings of the listening session or to back them up. It's fun to find logical links in reasoning and observation - whether they are truths or not I leave to the reader and those with far better knowledge of the mixing on Mr Bad Guy than myself.

I'm actually popping out in a bit so can this wait until tomorrow?

Day dop, we understand that a delivery man paid you a visit.
We also understand that you are enthusiast and started a thread on that.

But don't push it, we are not children, and the content of this thread is not your property or your responsibility.
In fact it should not concern you at all.

dysan wrote:

It's a review of a remixed album where each observation posted on the new mix is either a pro or a con, or an equal compared to the old mix. I picked a previous observation you had posted and used it to illustrate why a remix is not really necessary or of artist worth (whether I believe that or not) - neither to argue against the findings of the listening session or to back them up. It's fun to find logical links in reasoning and observation - whether they are truths or not I leave to the reader and those with far better knowledge of the mixing on Mr Bad Guy than myself.

Your words: "The original Mr Bad Guy isn't generally regarded unfavourably because the yeah yeah bit at the end of Love Is Dangerous wasn't quite given it's own clear space in the stereo spectrum."

No one said that the original Mr bad Guy was regarded unfavourably because the yeah yeah bit at the end of Love Is Dangerous wasn't quite given it's own clear space in the stereo spectrum.

So again, it was an invalid observation. Whether the remix was necessarily or not is irreverent to me. It's here, and I prefer the new version. That's it.

aristide1 wrote:

Day dop, we understand that a delivery man paid you a visit.
We also understand that you are enthusiast and started a thread on that.

But don't push it, we are not children, and the content of this thread is not your property or your responsibility.
In fact it should not concern you at all.

2 out of 10 for your attempt at trolling.

What do you guys think about how all of the instruments on the title track have been mixed? There is more depth and I feel like they tried to emphasize the polyphony and let those instruments breathe more. I like it, although the outro sounds different. Way different.
The same goes for the outro of Man Made Paradise. Polyphony is much clearer now and how lead vocals mix with bv's is much more organic... if you know what I mean.

Day dop wrote:

aristide1 wrote:

Day dop, we understand that a delivery man paid you a visit.
We also understand that you are enthusiast and started a thread on that.

But don't push it, we are not children, and the content of this thread is not your property or your responsibility.
In fact it should not concern you at all.

2 out of 10 for your attempt at trolling.

Dude, man, brother... you've started a thread full of promises and now you're arguing with dysan, while I am a troll.
It's an unexpected development, and I have the feeling that we are allowed to post on "your" thread as long as we agree with you.