Early/different tracklistings or running orders for Queen albums

21st Century Music Fan wrote:

Does anyonw know whether this is an early tracklisting for the third installment of Deep Cuts:

Made In Heaven
Machines (Or 'Back To Humans')
Is This The World We Created...?
Tear It Up
One Year Of Love
Khashoggi's Ship
Was It All Worth It
Don't Try So Hard
Bijou
Ride The Wild Wind
I Was Born To Love You
It's A Beautiful Day (Reprise)
A Winter's Tale
The Hitman
Mother Love

Not sure. Here is the actual track listing.

1. "Made in Heaven" (from Made In Heaven, 1995) Freddie Mercury 5:27
2. "Machines (Or 'Back to Humans')" (from The Works, 1984) Brian May, Roger Taylor 5:07
3. "Don't Try So Hard" (from Innuendo, 1991) Queen (Mercury) 3:40
4. "Tear It Up" (from The Works, 1984) May 3:24
5. "I Was Born to Love You" (from Made In Heaven, 1995) Mercury 4:50
6. "A Winter's Tale" (from Made In Heaven, 1995) Queen (Mercury) 3:52
7. "Ride the Wild Wind" (from Innuendo, 1991) Queen (Taylor) 4:43
8. "Bijou" (from Innuendo, 1991) Queen (Mercury, May) 3:37
9. "Was It All Worth It" (from The Miracle, 1989) Queen (Mercury) 5:45
10. "One Year of Love" (from A Kind Of Magic, 1986) John Deacon 4:27
11. "Khashoggi's Ship" (from The Miracle, 1989) Queen (Mercury) 2:52
12. "Is This the World We Created...?" (from The Works, 1984) Mercury, May 2:12
13. "The Hitman" (from Innuendo, 1991) Queen (Mercury, May, Deacon) 4:56
14. "It's a Beautiful Day (Reprise)" (from Made In Heaven, 1995) Queen (Mercury) 3:21
15. "Mother Love" (from Made In Heaven, 1995) Mercury, May 4:48

stevelondon20 wrote:

21st Century Music Fan wrote:

Does anyonw know whether this is an early tracklisting for the third installment of Deep Cuts:

Made In Heaven
Machines (Or 'Back To Humans')
Is This The World We Created...?
Tear It Up
One Year Of Love
Khashoggi's Ship
Was It All Worth It
Don't Try So Hard
Bijou
Ride The Wild Wind
I Was Born To Love You
It's A Beautiful Day (Reprise)
A Winter's Tale
The Hitman
Mother Love

Not sure. Here is the actual track listing.

1. "Made in Heaven" (from Made In Heaven, 1995) Freddie Mercury 5:27
2. "Machines (Or 'Back to Humans')" (from The Works, 1984) Brian May, Roger Taylor 5:07
3. "Don't Try So Hard" (from Innuendo, 1991) Queen (Mercury) 3:40
4. "Tear It Up" (from The Works, 1984) May 3:24
5. "I Was Born to Love You" (from Made In Heaven, 1995) Mercury 4:50
6. "A Winter's Tale" (from Made In Heaven, 1995) Queen (Mercury) 3:52
7. "Ride the Wild Wind" (from Innuendo, 1991) Queen (Taylor) 4:43
8. "Bijou" (from Innuendo, 1991) Queen (Mercury, May) 3:37
9. "Was It All Worth It" (from The Miracle, 1989) Queen (Mercury) 5:45
10. "One Year of Love" (from A Kind Of Magic, 1986) John Deacon 4:27
11. "Khashoggi's Ship" (from The Miracle, 1989) Queen (Mercury) 2:52
12. "Is This the World We Created...?" (from The Works, 1984) Mercury, May 2:12
13. "The Hitman" (from Innuendo, 1991) Queen (Mercury, May, Deacon) 4:56
14. "It's a Beautiful Day (Reprise)" (from Made In Heaven, 1995) Queen (Mercury) 3:21
15. "Mother Love" (from Made In Heaven, 1995) Mercury, May 4:48

It's the order in the booklet

Ah ok.

stevelondon20 wrote:

3. "Don't Try So Hard" (from Innuendo, 1991) Queen (Mercury) 3:40
13. "The Hitman" (from Innuendo, 1991) Queen (Mercury, May, Deacon) 4:56

Wow - these two surprised me.

I always thought Deacon at least co-write DTSH, and never would've thought he was in on The Hitman instead.

^Oooh, I thought the exact same thing.

cobohall wrote:

John may have had something else in mind lyrically at first. Then the song evolved and the working title no longer reflected the song's meaning. Remember, AOBTD started as a song about cowboys.

Sure, but if you evolve the lyrics so much that it hardly resembles the original idea, is it still the same song? An early version might be an almost entirely different beast. A ship of Theseus case, maybe.

Golden Salmon wrote:

A ship of Theseus case, maybe.

My respect for anyone who mentions this phenomenon in accurate context amplifies considerably. Well played.

dbl post

The Real Wizard wrote:

Golden Salmon wrote:
A ship of Theseus case, maybe.

My respect for anyone who mentions this phenomenon in accurate context amplifies considerably. Well played.

and more to the point: how many people googled it?
would the same rule apply perfectly to existence of The Drifters? One band, 60+ members.

two British sitcoms (both starring David Jason) actually used the same "Theseus' Ship" joke:

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Golden Salmon wrote:

^Oooh, I thought the exact same thing.

cobohall wrote:

John may have had something else in mind lyrically at first. Then the song evolved and the working title no longer reflected the song's meaning. Remember, AOBTD started as a song about cowboys.

Sure, but if you evolve the lyrics so much that it hardly resembles the original idea, is it still the same song? An early version might be an almost entirely different beast. A ship of Theseus case, maybe.

Maybe there is an entirely different song out there. Maybe it didn't evolve into IOSD. Maybe it did. Maybe Freddie got a hold of it and changed it enough that the title had to be changed. I don't know. Originally, I made the statement because both IYCBT and DSK were both on the track listings and IOSD wasn't.