What did John, Freddie and Roger think of Brian's live guitar solos?

brENsKi wrote:

runner_70 wrote:Freddie and Brian never were friends. Just working partners. And Brain annoyed the hell out of Freddie from time to time. Thats why May takes revenge now with QAL, the movie, Bigging QAL up instead of Freddie. Poor taste bust hey Its May.

I disagree. They had to be friends, you can't stay in a band with someone for 19 years and not be friends (even if only a casual friendship).
Admittedly, they didn't always see eye-to-eye - often falling out, but that's what friends do. You don't have to be close to be friends - there are degrees of friendship. Theirs was probably nowhere near as close as Freddie's and Roger's or later on Freddie and John's - but it was a friendship nonetheless.

Correct.

Pretty much nobody plays in bands with their brothers or their best friends. And when they do, it disintegrates acrimoniously virtually every time.

Bandmates are not your best friends. They are people you work well with, and then need a break from because the work is prolonged and intense.

People who are somehow convinced that Brian May is deficient in character because Freddie Mercury wasn't his best friend are simply people with overactive imaginations and undernourished intellects who do not understand anything about band dynamics.

But of course forum trolls know best.

dudeofqueen wrote:

Jonesy? That's very familiar....... You're conveniently forgetting the cardboard box thumping of the drummer being a "Moby".........

And with that it's still nowhere near half the show, and you alleged it was the "majority."

Some people like drum solos. Some don't. Turning it into a tirade about how Zeppelin was unoriginal in your eyes says nothing about them and everything about you. Check your anger at the door. As soon as you make it personal, nobody's listening.

Like them or not, Zeppelin were massively influential. Their first two albums alone were the blueprint for decades of rock music that came after it. And overexaggerating what you see as their flaws on a forum isn't going to change it.

I take your point about Live Killers solo but I suspect the bass and drums were overdubbed after the event...might be wrong tho!

I wouldn't be surprised if the rest of the band were bored to tears during the guitar solo but welcomed the break

If you think Brian's guitar solos were long, you should have gone to a Rush concert....Neil Peart is a great drummer but....

and it's not like Page was "taking up valuable set time" with his solo spots. Even if he and Bonzo accounted for an hour of solos, there's still well in excess of 2hrs concert time remaining.

Compare that to the like of Queen - whose average setlist was between 1:30 and 2:00hrs - now extract Brian's yawnfest. A (max) 2hr concert is missing a chunk of time that could be two other songs.

As I said though, I'm not against solos - Page, Blackmore, Scholz, Rhoads and Torme all created interesting spots. Brian (more or less) did the self-same thing in the same song year after blessed year.

brENsKi wrote:

and it's not like Page was "taking up valuable set time" with his solo spots. Even if he and Bonzo accounted for an hour of solos, there's still well in excess of 2hrs concert time remaining.

Compare that to the like of Queen - whose average setlist was between 1:30 and 2:00hrs - now extract Brian's yawnfest. A (max) 2hr concert is missing a chunk of time that could be two other songs.

As I said though, I'm not against solos - Page, Blackmore, Scholz, Rhoads and Torme all created interesting spots. Brian (more or less) did the self-same thing in the same song year after blessed year.

Led Zep usually extended their songs with useless wabbling and extending. The most boring Live band on earth and way overrated.

runner_70 wrote:Led Zep usually extended their songs with useless wabbling and extending. The most boring Live band on earth and way overrated.

That is the single most ill-informed comment EVER posted ANYWHERE. You have - in one short sentence - managed to plumb new depths of incredulity, Even all of your other ignorami usernames combined never achieved this level of abject stupidity.

Well done.

I have no other names you assclown. And Zep are the most overrated band in Rock. Famous for stealing the blues standards (which they were sued more than once) and a borefest watching them live.

If i listen very caredully to the jamming segment on Live Killers, there is a distinct change in Brian's guitar tone the second time he plays the riff and there is no audience noise; a studio jam?

brENsKi wrote:

runner_70 wrote:Led Zep usually extended their songs with useless wabbling and extending. The most boring Live band on earth and way overrated.

That is the single most ill-informed comment EVER posted ANYWHERE. You have - in one short sentence - managed to plumb new depths of incredulity, Even all of your other ignorami usernames combined never achieved this level of abject stupidity.

Well done.

He is just a troll mate. Pure and simple.

stevelondon20 wrote:

brENsKi wrote:

runner_70 wrote:Led Zep usually extended their songs with useless wabbling and extending. The most boring Live band on earth and way overrated.

That is the single most ill-informed comment EVER posted ANYWHERE. You have - in one short sentence - managed to plumb new depths of incredulity, Even all of your other ignorami usernames combined never achieved this level of abject stupidity.

Well done.

He is just a troll mate. Pure and simple.

For a Glamtart loser like you anyone is a troll who does not like QAL. Sad fanboy

runner_70 wrote:

stevelondon20 wrote:

brENsKi wrote:

runner_70 wrote:Led Zep usually extended their songs with useless wabbling and extending. The most boring Live band on earth and way overrated.

That is the single most ill-informed comment EVER posted ANYWHERE. You have - in one short sentence - managed to plumb new depths of incredulity, Even all of your other ignorami usernames combined never achieved this level of abject stupidity.

Well done.

He is just a troll mate. Pure and simple.

For a Glamtart loser like you anyone is a troll who does not like QAL. Sad fanboy

I have been a Queen fan since 1988. I am not what you describe as a "glamtart". You are a troll. Not anyone. YOU!

runner_70 wrote:I have no other names you assclown. And Zep are the most overrated band in Rock. Famous for stealing the blues standards (which they were sued more than once) and a borefest watching them live.

Queen were no different. Fool.

See What A fool I've Been - is a lift from Sonny Terry & Brownie McGhee - That's How I feel and Elvis' Mystery Train
Another One Bites The Dust bassline comes from Chic's Good Times
Let Me Live (original) was too similar to Janis Joplin's Piece of My Heart to be allowed for general release.

a not forgetting 10cc Une Nuit a Paris (march '75) - lots of elements of this appear in Bo Rhap

ANAGRAMER wrote:

I take your point about Live Killers solo but I suspect the bass and drums were overdubbed after the event...might be wrong tho!

Anything's possible, as this show hasn't turned up on audience tapes (yet). But the band did jam in Brighton Rock on almost every night of the Jazz tour.

If i listen very caredully to the jamming segment on Live Killers, there is a distinct change in Brian's guitar tone the second time he plays the riff and there is no audience noise; a studio jam?

At what time stamp? Maybe he changes his pickup setting?

Also - audience noise on live albums is always a creative decision. The only reason we hear audiences on live albums is because mics are specifically placed to capture them. Otherwise you're just going to hear what little the drum and vocal mics pick up (listen to Houston 77 on YouTube to hear what that sounds like). So the audience has a fader as well, just like any other instrument or voice, and the fader will usually be down if it's mid way through a song.

ANAGRAMER wrote:

If you think Brian's guitar solos were long, you should have gone to a Rush concert....Neil Peart is a great drummer but....

Peart's solo spots were the highlight of Rush shows. He arranged drum solos like Beethoven wrote symphonies.

And they were never too long. 7 or 8 minutes, in several carefully constructed movements, from one genre to the next. They had a clear progression from beginning to end.

Drum solos aren't everyone's cup of tea (I don't always like them myself), but they're not universally reviled like Milli Vanilli. The majority of Peart's audience loved them.

runner_70 wrote:

Zep are the most overrated band in Rock. Famous for stealing the blues standards (which they were sued more than once) and a borefest watching them live.

What Zeppelin did was common in the blues world. They were just the first band to make a ton of money doing it.

Nobody called it "stealing" in the 1960s. The lawyers didn't show up until much later.