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[QUOTE] [b]ST17 wrote:[/b]

And your source for all this then? Did you live with Freddie then?[/QUOTE]

Did you? And where's the proof in you're views.

Stop viewing Freddie with rose coloured specs and wrapping him in cotton wool.

There's loads of evidence of Freddie having a temper. Yes the film took liberties in its sequencing of events, but don't you think it odd neither Mary Austin or Kashmira has jumped to his defence to refute what was portrayed in the film.

And your general stance that everything Freddie did was amazing and when you decide to criticise the band it's never Freddie, it's the other three in fact usually two of the other three.
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Vocal Harmony I know Freddie had a temper when things went wrong but he was a perfectionist but not one book on Freddie has ever stated
that he smashed a mirror over someones head.
The most honest book i have ever read was Peter Hince's book and since he was around Freddie more than most if the events had happened then
he would have certainly have mentioned this.
So till someone actually has proof that Freddie smashed a mirror over someones head that comment is completely dismissed by me !
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[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b][QUOTE] [b]ST17 wrote:[/b]And your source for all this then? Did you live with Freddie then?[/QUOTE]Did you? And where's the proof in you're views.
Stop viewing Freddie with rose coloured specs and wrapping him in cotton wool.
There's loads of evidence of Freddie having a temper...
And your general stance that everything Freddie did was amazing and when you decide to criticise the band it's never Freddie, it's the other three in fact usually two of the other three.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. Even the musical genius could write a turd or three from time to time:
Body Language
Man On The Prowl
Delilah

there's also one or two priceless turd chunks from Mr Bad Guy
and Freddie's (at least) 50% blame for
Pain Is So Close To Pleasure
Friend Will be Friends
My Baby Does Me

Yes,let's celebrate his greatness, but we can't dismiss his flaws. His many flaws and immense greatness co-existed - a single-entity symbiosis (of sorts). Point being there's not one without the other. We can't even say which (genius or flaws) existed first, because in all likelihood - during Freddie's growing up - BOTH were dormant waiting for the other.
go deo na hÉireann The best QZ epoch: BG17-00 (Before Gerry 1996-2013)
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Brenski "Friends Will Be Friends" is a brilliant song so your stone deaf there!
I agree Delilah and My Baby Does Me is not up to the high standards but Freddie had Aids did you forget about that? He had more things on his mind so please excuse the great man because Brenski
is slagging off Freddie who is turning into a skeleton.
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[QUOTE] [b]ST17 wrote:[/b]Brenski "Friends Will Be Friends" is a brilliant song so your stone deaf there!
I agree Delilah and My Baby Does Me is not up to the high standards but Freddie had Aids did you forget about that? He had more things on his mind so please excuse the great man because Brenski is slagging off Freddie who is turning into a skeleton.[/QUOTE]
I'm not slagging him off, I'm saying that his many character flaws were part of his genius. We couldn't have the great songwriter/performer without those flaws. I doubt there's ever been a genius who walked the earth, that wasn't hugely flawed in some way - it's the trade-off.

As for the song-writing: Okay you accept two songs weren't great - can't believe you're skipping over the abomination that was Pain Is So Close To Pleasure, but no matter - to your point:

We can't excuse [b]"Delilah"[/b] and [b]"My Baby Does Me"[/b] because he was unwell, and in that same context say Freddie wrote the Cowardesque genius that was [b]"I'm Going Slightly Mad"[/b] and epic prose like [b]"Innuendo"[/b] and [b]"Was It All Worth It"[/b] when he was also unwell.

The argument is inherently flawed.
go deo na hÉireann The best QZ epoch: BG17-00 (Before Gerry 1996-2013)
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Actually "Pain is so close to pleasure" i quite like because of Freddie's falsetto on that song and you get a bit of Brian May blistering guitar licks so 6/10 for me.
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[QUOTE] [b]ST17 wrote:[/b]Actually "Pain is so close to pleasure" i quite like because of Freddie's falsetto on that song and you get a bit of Brian May blistering guitar licks so 6/10 for me.[/QUOTE]

I've always felt it was a little bit "plastic" Diana Ross (Chain Reaction), though.
go deo na hÉireann The best QZ epoch: BG17-00 (Before Gerry 1996-2013)
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It went on from Chain Reaction to somewhere else. And FWBF has its moments.
Martin
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Yeah Freddie said he loves singing John Deacon's songs in the Tamla Motown styles !
It did sound odd at the start but if you want something different from Queen then "Pain is so close to Pleasure" is it!
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[QUOTE] [b]ST17 wrote:[/b]

Yeah Freddie said he loves singing John Deacon's songs in the Tamla Motown styles !
It did sound odd at the start but if you want something different from Queen then "Pain is so close to Pleasure" is it![/QUOTE]

Agreed!
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Since i suffered a hard drive death a year or two ago, and hadn't backed everything up


...someone mentioned "blistering guitar" (*which is debatable) but it immediately made me think of the CM MATT remixes.

Dear God, i wish that host was still up. Those were almost always incredible improvements upon the original releases
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Wtf did this thread turn into? smh
We love you Mandy!
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A discussion of PISCTP. ..and inquiry about CMATT's wonderful mixes
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