Icy, your arguments are with Caroline and I don't want to get into that. Maybe we could just try to get along and just ignore the rest of it. How you get along with her has nothing to do with me and I choose not to comment about it anymore. I don't wish to argue with you either. I am so sorry that you are feeling so poorly, but glad that got a laugh out of you. If you can laugh, it can't all be bad! Take care and I hope you start getting better quickly!![/QUOTE]
You have gotten into it, pretty much from your first post that you ever made here.
I know full well what someone thinks of me, the worst of and about me. Sure, sorry and I disagree and disagree often but do I hate her? No.
She hates me, she said that herself. There's that.
Thanks, I know you can be civil at times. It means a lot
Nathan H · Member since
FUCKING HELL,
it's several posters on this forum who started this debacle off on sections of the site. I'm not going to name anyone but if people kept their personal opinions of Q+AL to themselves or started a new forum to talk about their personal negative opinions then there would've no insults in the first place.
It seems Caroline was posting on here doing what she loves and all it took for one person to say I don't like that to turn into I hate you, you are fucking awful person, which obviously took to her personally. She obviously didn't like it and was sort of being bullied, and of course it continued and more and more people joined in and it esclated into her getting more angered hence why she said some insults. And now, she's getting blamed for those insults even though it didn't happen first - she was blamed by the fans who said I don't like what you're doing in the first place.
That just shows how nasty some people are, making their personal opinion more prominent by stopping others doing what they love.
Iron Butterfly · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Gen Z Music Fan wrote:[/b]
FUCKING HELL,
it's several posters on this forum who started this debacle off on sections of the site. I'm not going to name anyone but if people kept their personal opinions of Q+AL to themselves or started a new forum to talk about their personal negative opinions then there would've no insults in the first place.
It seems Caroline was posting on here doing what she loves and all it took for one person to say I don't like that to turn into I hate you, you are fucking awful person, which obviously took to her personally. She obviously didn't like it and was sort of being bullied, and of course it continued and more and more people joined in and it esclated into her getting more angered hence why she said some insults. And now, she's getting blamed for those insults even though it didn't happen first - she was blamed by the fans who said I don't like what you're doing in the first place.
That just shows how nasty some people are, making their personal opinion more prominent by stopping others doing what they love.[/QUOTE]
She came here in 2014 from QOL to blame me for what happened elsewhere...and every time since, spreading lies, no other way to put it every time she was banned from QOL...and blaming me for bans of other Glamberts...that's how this started. What she claims isn't true, it's even been proven once it's not true.
For the record, I've never said I hate SweetCaroline....because I don't. She hates me, she has posted that in the last couple of months. Maybe you missed it where she has said that, also comparing me to Hitler and the Gestapo. She stands by all that, and isn't sorry. That's the thing, she isn't sorry, or even willing to take back what she has said.
The things I don't like about SweetCaroline, is her spamming and lies. Not the once have I ever said I hate her, which is different, world's apart how she feels about me. She will likely come here to say you are right, I'm wrong, and that I "stalk" her.
rockchic65 · Member since
If everyone could keep the conversation relevant to the subject and leave personal name calling out of it the forum would be much better. Constant tit for tat name calling is pointless and ridiculous and does nothing but make the forum unuseable. Arguing an opinion about the band, the QAL collab etc is one thing but personal name calling is another altogether. Who want's to wade through pages and pages of he said she said to find a post that's actually relevant and worth reading.
Nathan H · Member since
I used to love reading what people used to put about the shows whether that was videos or reviews. But now it's impossible because of people continuing their personal opinions.
Iron Butterfly · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Gen Z Music Fan wrote:[/b]
I used to love reading what people used to put about the shows whether that was videos or reviews. But now it's impossible because of people continuing their personal opinions.[/QUOTE]
Actually, I loved reading it too. Thing is, someone says unless someone goes to see it live, opinions don't matter. It does matter. I'd be more than okay if a certain song or three was returned to the set list, but I know it will never happen...and yes, that's a shame, IMO.
Personal opinions are one thing, how ugly it can get is something else...on both sides. Yes, I'm a part of it, but I'm not the monster here someone wants you to believe. Tell you what, I'm pretty sure I've annoyed the crap out of rockchic, but she's always been civil with me...something to be said for that, and kudos to her for it.
Iron Butterfly · Member since
Sorry for any typos, I'm still sick :[
Vocal harmony · Member since
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Gen Z Music Fan wrote:[/b]I'm not going to name anyone but if people kept their personal opinions of Q+AL to themselves or started a new forum to talk about their personal negative opinions then there would've no insults in the first place. .[/QUOTE]
sub-forum title is: [color=blue]Queen + Adam Lambert Discuss the Queen + Adam Lambert collaboration here[/color]
it does NOT doesn't say
[color=red]Queen + Adam Lambert - Discuss the Positives Only of Queen + Adam Lambert collaboration here[/color]
does it?
I don't like Q+AL but I don't really get involved the discussions/rows about it, but that doesn't mean people who don't like it are not allowed to.
so back off, and allow free speech...or go and create your own forum - see how successful you are.
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]But c'mon it is really getting ridiculous now don't you think???[/QUOTE]
well, it's not at Kiss Kaskets and Kiss Kondoms yet, so they haven't quite sold their souls to filthy lucre, or crossed the lines of bad taste.
Iron Butterfly · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Gen Z Music Fan wrote:[/b]I'm not going to name anyone but if people kept their personal opinions of Q+AL to themselves or started a new forum to talk about their personal negative opinions then there would've no insults in the first place. .[/QUOTE]
sub-forum title is: [color=blue]Queen + Adam Lambert Discuss the Queen + Adam Lambert collaboration here[/color]
it does NOT doesn't say
[color=red]Queen + Adam Lambert - Discuss the Positives Only of Queen + Adam Lambert collaboration here[/color]
does it?
I don't like Q+AL but I don't really get involved the discussions/rows about it, but that doesn't mean people who don't like it are not allowed to.
so back off, and allow free speech...or go and create your own forum - see how successful you are.
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]But c'mon it is really getting ridiculous now don't you think???[/QUOTE]
well, it's not at Kiss Kaskets and Kiss Kondoms yet, so they haven't quite sold their souls to filthy lucre, or crossed the lines of bad taste.
[/QUOTE]
Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but was there Queen condoms a few years back, or did I imagine it? Sorry for the question...it's not meant as ignorant.
runner_70 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Iron Butterfly wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Gen Z Music Fan wrote:[/b]I'm not going to name anyone but if people kept their personal opinions of Q+AL to themselves or started a new forum to talk about their personal negative opinions then there would've no insults in the first place. .[/QUOTE]
sub-forum title is: [color=blue]Queen + Adam Lambert Discuss the Queen + Adam Lambert collaboration here[/color]
it does NOT doesn't say
[color=red]Queen + Adam Lambert - Discuss the Positives Only of Queen + Adam Lambert collaboration here[/color]
does it?
I don't like Q+AL but I don't really get involved the discussions/rows about it, but that doesn't mean people who don't like it are not allowed to.
so back off, and allow free speech...or go and create your own forum - see how successful you are.
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]But c'mon it is really getting ridiculous now don't you think???[/QUOTE]
well, it's not at Kiss Kaskets and Kiss Kondoms yet, so they haven't quite sold their souls to filthy lucre, or crossed the lines of bad taste.
[/QUOTE]
Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but was there Queen condoms a few years back, or did I imagine it? Sorry for the question...it's not meant as ignorant. [/QUOTE]
I doubt that but it would be not very tasteful
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Gen Z Music Fan wrote:[/b]
That just shows how nasty some people are, making their personal opinion more prominent by stopping others doing what they love.[/QUOTE]
It's much easier to break people down than to build them up.
This is oxygen to bullies and forum trolls.
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
I don't like Q+AL but I don't really get involved the discussions/rows about it, but that doesn't mean people who don't like it are not allowed to.
so back off, and allow free speech[/QUOTE]
"Freedom of speech" does not mean "freedom to be an asshole and ruin almost every thread on a forum, bordering on hate speech."
There has to be a fine line in there somewhere. There's a reason why virtually every other forum is moderated to some degree - for civility's sake. Otherwise it will attract the worst that humanity has to offer, and it ends up being like this place.
runner_70 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
I don't like Q+AL but I don't really get involved the discussions/rows about it, but that doesn't mean people who don't like it are not allowed to.
so back off, and allow free speech[/QUOTE]
"Freedom of speech" does not mean "freedom to be an asshole and ruin almost every thread on a forum, bordering on hate speech."
There has to be a fine line in there somewhere. There's a reason why virtually every other forum is moderated to some degree - for civility's sake. Otherwise it will attract the worst that humanity has to offer, and it ends up being like this place.
[/QUOTE]
Feel free to fuck off and never return sad shit stirrer
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
I don't like Q+AL but I don't really get involved the discussions/rows about it, but that doesn't mean people who don't like it are not allowed to.
so back off, and allow free speech[/QUOTE]
"Freedom of speech" does not mean "freedom to be an asshole and ruin almost every thread on a forum, bordering on hate speech."
There has to be a fine line in there somewhere. There's a reason why virtually every other forum is moderated to some degree - for civility's sake. Otherwise it will attract the worst that humanity has to offer, and it ends up being like this place.
[/QUOTE]
yes. exactly. but my point is NOT about tone or language used - or even intent.
my only point is that where a forum is created say for "Deep Purple - Post 1993", then people/fans still have a right to join in and say they don't like it. It's just not practical to expect to create a forum "sub" where only positives are allowed...in much the same way that we have BOTH criticised Freddie's lifestyle. This may be heresy to some, but it's a valid point nonetheless.
