Maylor are not money hungry???

[QUOTE] [b]Gen Z Music Fan wrote:[/b]
I do like opinions because I do see some of the negative things about Q+AL but I just think constantly saying them is causing some of the AL fans to say insults to Queen fans. I'm just trying to make peace if you guys we're stop now or at least do it less often then it would be much a nicer place.

We've heard all of your points several times now it's not made any diffences with the AL fans or even the band themselves. I just don't see the point of insulting people to put the point across. I'm just trying to make this place a lot better.[/QUOTE]

I'm someone who doesn't like Q+AL - but I wholeheartedly defend their right to perform.

However, people have a right to disagree as often as they like - in much the same way as Q+AL fans can make as many positive comments as they like. I don't see you asking the Q+AL fans to stop repeating over and over their positive comments, wonder why?

And why would you think people are "saying what they're saying" in order to "make a difference/change opponent's opinion"? That perspective either applies to both sides of the discussion or not at all.

You need to take issue with people's tone - and NOT their right to be negative - as often as they like. If you'd read my post properly, you'd have (possibly) got that. But instead you keep banging the same pointless drum.

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[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]

I don't like Q+AL but I don't really get involved the discussions/rows about it, but that doesn't mean people who don't like it are not allowed to.
so back off, and allow free speech[/QUOTE]

"Freedom of speech" does not mean "freedom to be an asshole and ruin almost every thread on a forum, bordering on hate speech."

There has to be a fine line in there somewhere. There's a reason why virtually every other forum is moderated to some degree - for civility's sake. Otherwise it will attract the worst that humanity has to offer, and it ends up being like this place.
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yes. exactly. but my point is NOT about tone or language used - or even intent.

my only point is that where a forum is created say for "Deep Purple - Post 1993", then people/fans still have a right to join in and say they don't like it. It's just not practical to expect to create a forum "sub" where only positives are allowed...in much the same way that we have BOTH criticised Freddie's lifestyle. This may be heresy to some, but it's a valid point nonetheless.


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In the German forum there is a policy that there are only positive QAL postings allowed. The admin there posted me in private and warned me if I ever say sth negative about QAL he would boot me. He did in the end. What a loser
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But you're here posting with the same (or worse attitude) than the admin on the German forum. You don't think the current band should be touring, you think Queen ended in 1991 and you dislike anyone being a fan or who is a fan of the current line up.

The admin had a zero policy, but so do you, and the best bit is you've called him a loser. . .

[QUOTE] [b]Iron Butterfly wrote:[/b]



Snifflese also wants bans to happen here. She came here ranting about wanting me banned because SweetCaroline was banned from QOL. So she wanted me banned from both Queen boards. First post she ever made here a couple of years ago. [/QUOTE]

She is way worse than SC who is only mentally disturebd from her unhealthy passion for the ladyboy. Sniffcrack is bashing any posting where Freddie is mentioned. Every single one especially those that say that Lamebird is riding on Freddie's coattails. If she left QZ it would be a better place.

You people are absolutely bonkers! If you can't understand the difference between having an opposing opinion and discussing it in a mature way or calling people filthy names and insulting everyone right and left except for Icy, then there is no point to this place. For about the 5th time BENSKI, no one says there can be no opposing opinions and it has to be positive things as that is rubbish, BUT people can be grownup when they post their disagreement. Filthy name calling and some of thhe tings that are said bu Runner don't have a place here. What is it that you don't get about that?

No, Icy, this is the only subforum I would like to post in, but it is impossible, since you people ,make it that way by jumping on and criticizing and doing what you do. Just because I don't post in other parts of the board doesn't mean I am not a Queen fan and I have been one for about 15 years longer than you. I am just not a rabid fan like you guys and I have explained that too many times. As far as Caroline goes, I see a person who was hounded and bitched at and derided by you for years, both here and on QOL, so if she makes a few remarks to you, you probably deserve it. You can only push a person so far. And at some point if you would quit bringing it up every darn day, it might pass, but you can't do that and keep goading her. Let the chips fall where they may. It is on you at this point, so keep it up, keep complaining and it will the normal crap place that it has been for so long.

Why Runner keeps talking about bashing Freddie, I don't know. I have said how wonderful he was and don't feel I do that, nor does anyone else. I am not sure what he is reading. It must be he can't understand English, otherwise that remark makes no sense. However, on this part of the board, QAL is the main discussion. He needs to remember that. There is a reason that most sensible people feel Runner should be banned and it isn't for opposing views. Singers replace other singers all the time, especially when they are dead, and that is not riding on anyone's coattails. He is partly responsible for the success and has worked his butt off to make QAL what it is. So that is absolutely not true.

[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]For about the 5th time BENSKI, no one says there can be no opposing opinions and it has to be positive things as that is rubbish, [/QUOTE]
For the third time snifflese, you need to learn to read: For one last time, what you have just refuted is exactly the opposite to what Gen Z Music has said:

[QUOTE] [b]Gen Z Music Fan wrote:[/b][color=red]I'm not going to name anyone but if people kept their personal opinions of Q+AL to themselves or started a new forum to talk about their personal negative opinions then there would've no insults in the first place. [/color][/QUOTE]

You're in denial (or trying to con us all) if you think that means anything else but "take your negative opinions to your own Q+AL Negative Forum". Please learn to understand basic English before claiming something means that which it clearly does NOT.

[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]

You people are absolutely bonkers! If you can't understand the difference between having an opposing opinion and discussing it in a mature way or calling people filthy names and insulting everyone right and left except for Icy, then there is no point to this place. For about the 5th time BENSKI, no one says there can be no opposing opinions and it has to be positive things as that is rubbish, BUT people can be grownup when they post their disagreement. Filthy name calling and some of thhe tings that are said bu Runner don't have a place here. What is it that you don't get about that?

No, Icy, this is the only subforum I would like to post in, but it is impossible, since you people ,make it that way by jumping on and criticizing and doing what you do. Just because I don't post in other parts of the board doesn't mean I am not a Queen fan and I have been one for about 15 years longer than you. I am just not a rabid fan like you guys and I have explained that too many times. As far as Caroline goes, I see a person who was hounded and bitched at and derided by you for years, both here and on QOL, so if she makes a few remarks to you, you probably deserve it. You can only push a person so far. And at some point if you would quit bringing it up every darn day, it might pass, but you can't do that and keep goading her. Let the chips fall where they may. It is on you at this point, so keep it up, keep complaining and it will the normal crap place that it has been for so long.

Why Runner keeps talking about bashing Freddie, I don't know. I have said how wonderful he was and don't feel I do that, nor does anyone else. I am not sure what he is reading. It must be he can't understand English, otherwise that remark makes no sense. However, on this part of the board, QAL is the main discussion. He needs to remember that. There is a reason that most sensible people feel Runner should be banned and it isn't for opposing views. Singers replace other singers all the time, especially when they are dead, and that is not riding on anyone's coattails. He is partly responsible for the success and has worked his butt off to make QAL what it is. So that is absolutely not true.

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You people, you say, nice *sarcasm* sweeping statement right there.
I think you feel you have a new audience to convince, and it's obvious you want brENsKi to believe your side and to take your side.
After all SweetCaroline has said spread about me here going back to 2014, if only she had the guts or decency to say sorry, but she will likely never be sorry or to offer an apology. If SweetCaroline apoligised and was genuine, id sccrpt it and drop it. The only thing she is clear about regarding me is how much she hates me, has no empathy for me. Thing is, snifflese if I said the things about her that she says about me, you would not be pleased, in fact many times especially in the past you have become upset and angry with me for less. Much less, many times.
What Runner posts isn't up to me, I don't know why you complain to him about me. At least the guy has never sank so low as to drag my mental health while my father was dying to use against me, to be blunt she fucked up by doing that Your buddy SweetCaroline did that. Not Runner. SweetCaroline is the only one who did that . That told me everything what kind of a person she can be, sorry it's not pretty no matter how much you defend her and try to turn things on me. And if you don’t think I deserve an apology for that, or I should drop it, we'll that says alot about you as well. Easy for you to say, right. Must be nice to always defend what someone does no matter what, must be nice to usually deflect on me. You clearly want people to believe the worst about me, just make sure you tell them what you and SweetCaroline have done as well.

AL has never replaced Freddie. Freddie isn't replaceable to begin with. You'd know that if you dared to post outside of this subforum, but just as well as you don't post in the Queen sections. You said yourself you can't be bothered to learn about Freddie’s and Queen's history. It just amazes me that the two main Glamberts, you being one of them come to Queen boards to promote and hype up AL as if he's a God, and you can't even bear to see Freddie's name in here. That's telling how far you are in the AL bubble. And you have the nerve to tell Queen fans like Runner and myself to go post elsewhere? The irony.

It is impossible to have a discussion with you as I just don't understand your logic at all. I give up. You and your new buddy can just go on with your constantly accusing, his filthy and nasty posts and basically screw things up here. You take everything out of context, view it the way you want to (basically never meant that way by the poster!) and then throw crap at people and say things they never said/meant. It is like trying to discuss with people in the loony bin. You can't see beyond your own prejudices and vilify anyone who might like discussing QAL. No one wants just glowing remarks as life isn't like that, but a little maturity about discussing would be nice and seeing things the way others do. I get folks don't like Adam or QAL, no problem. BUT you don't need to run Adam and Brian and Roger and the other posters down because of that. You are the people that want nothing but glowing praise for Freddie. QAL is not necessarily about Freddie anymore as I don't see him standing there performing. You either accept QAL as a new entity of Queen or you don't like it and just move on and listen to a lot of the old music you love. But you don't have to crap all over this thread and argue with people who are happy with the new state of affairs, as there is no other choice if you want to enjoy live music.

[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]

It is impossible to have a discussion with you as I just don't understand your logic at all. I give up. You and your new buddy can just go on with your constantly accusing, his filthy and nasty posts and basically screw things up here. You take everything out of context, view it the way you want to (basically never meant that way by the poster!) and then throw crap at people and say things they never said/meant. It is like trying to discuss with people in the loony bin. You can't see beyond your own prejudices and vilify anyone who might like discussing QAL. No one wants just glowing remarks as life isn't like that, but a little maturity about discussing would be nice and seeing things the way others do. I get folks don't like Adam or QAL, no problem. BUT you don't need to run Adam and Brian and Roger and the other posters down because of that. You are the people that want nothing but glowing praise for Freddie. QAL is not necessarily about Freddie anymore as I don't see him standing there performing. You either accept QAL as a new entity of Queen or you don't like it and just move on and listen to a lot of the old music you love. But you don't have to crap all over this thread and argue with people who are happy with the new state of affairs, as there is no other choice if you want to enjoy live music.[/QUOTE]

You don't understand my logic at all...ok then lol.
Runner isn't my buddy by the way.
Boy, you are on a ranting agenda again, I see. It doesn't take much.
You like to spew nonsense and your own crap.

[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]You take everything out of context, view it the way you want to (basically never meant that way by the poster!) and then throw crap at people and say things they never said/meant. [/QUOTE]
and I have not thrown any crap at anyone, my only replies are as to what has/hasn't been said by yourself and Gen Z. as I said - you're in denial. this was said very clearly by yourself:
[QUOTE] [color=blue][b]snifflese wrote:[/b]For about the 5th time BENSKI, no one says there can be no opposing opinions and it has to be positive things as that is rubbish, [/color][/QUOTE]
in response to this:
[QUOTE][color=green] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]For the third time snifflese, you need to learn to read: For one last time, what you have just refuted is exactly the opposite to what Gen Z Music has said:[/color][/QUOTE] [QUOTE] [b]Gen Z Music Fan wrote:[/b][color=red]I'm not going to name anyone but if people kept their personal opinions of Q+AL to themselves or started a new forum to talk about their personal negative opinions then there would've no insults in the first place. [/color][/QUOTE]
it's quite clear what was said and meant - to everyone but you. But then, you can't even spell my username correctly - it's "Brenski". Shall I start calling you "sniffpee"?


[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]It is like trying to discuss with people in the loony bin. [/QUOTE]
I'm not speaking for Iron Butterfly or runner_70 here. but you sink your own argument with presumptuous, self-aggrandizing lines like that.

reasons for you to reply:
1. you are unable to read and understand basic English, or
2. your insistence on protracting an you've already lost.
3. you're trying to provoke me into insulting you, so you can group together everyone that dissents your view, and label them as "abusive"

By all means continue your spat with IB and runner, but please don't reply to this - give it up, you're making yourself look a fool.

[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]

Singers replace other singers all the time, especially when they are dead, and that is not riding on anyone's coattails. He is partly responsible for the success and has worked his butt off to make QAL what it is. So that is absolutely not true.

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For comments like this you should be banned. "Other singers" - you fucking retarded clown. This was the mos t legendary singer of all time -stop putting him down because your asshole idol your lusting for is only covering him in a bad way. Get the fuck out of QZ for gods sake

Ok Benski, I give up with you, too, as you just don't understand at all what I have said. It is pointless around here. The first remark was aimed at Icy and Runner. My only remark to you was sure there are different opinions and that is great and what a discussion should be. However, they need to be done in a civil manner. I am not responsible with GEn Z's statement and I don't think that necessarily. It would be nice, but isn't going to happen, so just keep the remarks civil and move on to new discussions instead of bringing up past slights like Icy does, day after day and the nasty things Runner says. Those remarks did not apply to you, but people can be pleasant when disagreeing and that is all I meant

Just because you think Freddie hung the moon, you will find millions of other fans that feel that way about their legendary singers. This is your opinion only. You totally disregard Adam and the guys and what QAL is today because of their work to make it so. There is no reflection on Freddie and if you think so, it is only because your total infatuation with him and think everything revolves around him. It does not.

[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]Ok Benski, I give up with you, too, as you just don't understand at all what I have said. It is pointless around here. My only remark to you was sure there are different opinions and that is great and what a discussion should be. [/QUOTE]

You're being disingenuous. this is what was said: you clearly disputed what Gen Z had said/meant:
[QUOTE][color=blue] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]You take everything out of context, view it the way you want to (basically never meant that way by the poster!) and then throw crap at people and say things they never said/meant.[/color] [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE] [color=blue][b]snifflese wrote:[/b]For about the 5th time BENSKI, no one says there can be no opposing opinions and it has to be positive things as that is rubbish, [/color][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][color=green] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]For the third time snifflese, you need to learn to read: For one last time, what you have just refuted is exactly the opposite to what Gen Z Music has said:[/color][/QUOTE] [QUOTE] [b]Gen Z Music Fan wrote:[/b][color=red]I'm not going to name anyone but if people kept their personal opinions of Q+AL to themselves or started a new forum to talk about their personal negative opinions then there would've no insults in the first place. [/color][/QUOTE]
this is not about some vague wording. Gen Z was very clear - the use of English was easy to follow - for all except you. Gen Z was not writing in code or using some ancient language requiring five translations to get it to modern English - and YOU know that. Note: Gen Z hasn't disputed what was written - just you!
you give up, because you mis-read, because you got it wrong, and because you have lost this argument. no other reason. and don't pretend otherwise. I can keep quoting until you accept the actual facts - and stop trying to impose your skewed version on people.

I am not agreeing with GenZ, what does he have to do with my remark? I am refuting GenZ's remark. I think that would be lovely, but it isn't happening here, so just get your dissenting review civil! You are the one not comprehending my remark.

[QUOTE] [b]snifflese wrote:[/b]

I am not agreeing with GenZ, what does he have to do with my remark? I am refuting GenZ's remark. I think that would be lovely, but it isn't happening here, so just get your dissenting review civil! You are the one not comprehending my remark. [/QUOTE]

what an idiotic comment. I've quoted you and Gen Z several times - as part of the argument you keep presenting - saying he "never said...", couldn't be simpler. why argue with me? I don't have a dissenting review. I have passed no comments on Q+AL. and my comment is civil. you're getting touchy - an indication you're sinking fast.

I am simply saying that it would never work for everyone here to have only positive remarks. That would be nice, but not possible. I don't understand the German forum requiring that, but I guess it does eliminate the nastiness on here. A lot of forums are like that, I guess. If everyone could be civil when they reply to a differing viewpoint, that would be the solution here. I just don't like the ugly things Runner says. I don't understand how I am shutting down everyone's right to post which you believe in. Everyone should be able to take part, but you can be civil or you should be banned if you can't follow basic rules on how to be a mature poster. It is like that in society, you have the right to do many things, but when you break the rules there are consequences and there should be here, too.