I imagine your wives and partners ask you tonight: what did you do today and you have to say: I fought over Brian May's face mask on a Queen forum....[/QUOTE]
LOL Good one! :D
flash00. · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]ST17 wrote:[/b]
SAY'S IT ALL REALLY![/QUOTE]
I hope that is a mask and not one of Rogers baggy thongs.
CM · Member since
All the fantastic solo albums Brian has recorded in the last 22 years are clearly the best part of him.
TomP63 · Member since
I think it's a cool photo. Brian in one of his iconic poses on stage. I am now 57, Brian will always be my childhood hero. I still see Brian as an innovative guitarist. Often copied, never matched. I really don't see the problem of turning this into such a strange discussion and then bringing it into dialogue with Alzheimer's. How peculiar.
Tom
runner_70 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]TomP63 wrote:[/b]
I think it's a cool photo. Brian in one of his iconic poses on stage. I am now 57, Brian will always be my childhood hero. I still see Brian as an innovative guitarist. Often copied, never matched. I really don't see the problem of turning this into such a strange discussion and then bringing it into dialogue with Alzheimer's. How peculiar.
Tom[/QUOTE]
He was innovative until 1991 because Freddie brought out the best in him. For mor than two decades he has completely lost any creative spark and did not write a good song since 1998's " Another world": And character-wise he is very two faced. Lost every respect for him after the Movie and QAL. my least fave Queen member by far
runner_70 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]CM wrote:[/b]
All the fantastic solo albums Brian has recorded in the last 22 years are clearly the best part of him.[/QUOTE]
Sad but true he completely gave up on songwriting and went the nostalgia route
TomP63 · Member since
Runner, you miss my point which I want to make. I understand your aversion against Brian. But that is beyond any discussion for me, I look up to Brian the way I look at John, Roger and certainly Freddie, a big part of my musical upbringing. For all I care Brian is known for the fact that he walks naked across the Tower Bridge every week and sings, God Save The Queen. His ideas about anything do not change my feelings about the band nor Brian. Say for yourself, the photo is really beautiful. Plus who or what does Brian now damage by wearing a mask on a stage where he prefers?
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]Sad but true he completely gave up on songwriting and went the nostalgia route[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE] [b]ST17 wrote:[/b]Absolutely agree Runner70 Brian is very two faced and does things for his own gain now.
Freddie was like a personal music trainer always getting more and more out of them including Brian, but Mr May has lost his way as far as creative sensible projects go. He is completely lost in the fog.[/QUOTE]
I think it runs deeper than this. We have to consider what drives artists. Many bands have had "path changing" events like splits, deaths, etc. You have to think that; with most well into their 70s, there's little "new" to interest them..."write, record, tour, repeat, rinse" becomes a treadmill.
The key is what motivates them [b][i]these days[/b][/i].
>> Some - like Page are more into doing stuff with Zep's archive and back catalog
>> Others - like McCartney have always wanted to keep recording AND touring
>> There's Jeff Lynne, who's newfound desire for recording AND touring has kicked in - two albums and 3 tours in four years!
>> Another option is the Blackmore approach - diverge into something very different, with "rock" being just a side project to enjoy "for a change".
>> Lastly, there's the "Brian" type who just wants to perform live - with other key interests outside of music.
I don't like Brian's current version of Queen, but - Brian is not being two-faced, how can doing exactly as he wants be two-faced? It'd be two-faced to do one thing but pretend it's for different reasons. Brian's doing what he wants on HIS terms - definitely NOT two-faced. If anything it's the exact opposite.
New music doesn't make any money, so there's no real motivation to make an LP - unless it's a live recording (which may help to promote the next tour?). To make new LPs (these days) - an artist is mainly doing it for altruism's sake alone.
I suppose my point is; they're all finding different ways to enjoy their old age - but on their terms. And that's their right alone. We've no real right to say "they can't do this" - we can say how much we don;t like it, but, ultimately, their lives are not our decision to make. How would we feel, if someone else told us how we should live our lives?
So I respect their choices - whether I agree or not.
philip storey · Member since
"Pathetic Earthlings!"
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]ST17 wrote:[/b]I still agree with Runner70 saying Brian is two faced. Let me explain on the one hand he has made a film about Freddie in Bo Rhap which was drenched in lies (as a friend towards Freddie, why dd he allow this)? He made Freddie look like a right twat, He then goes on to say Adam can do anything Freddie could do and more - really?
Adam cannot play piano or write a masterpiece like "Bohemian Rhapsody" so Brian is talking utter rubbish to make his new pet Adam look superior to Freddie.
May seems to want it both ways to make money, firstly getting exposure about the Rhapsody film then when that is over he is on a different side and praises Lambert, Brian is so two faced its unbelievable but so true. Here is a man now that does not care a damn what he says to the press. Yes he is a brilliant guitarist no one can deny that but his faithfulness towards Fred is in doubt in my opinion.
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Firstly, Brian didn't write the movie. Anthony McCarten wrote the screenplay. Brian's input was (like Roger's) more concerned with the artistic approach to performances etc.
I agree with you re: the Adam Lambert quote, but I think it's taken out of context. When the full GuitarWorld) interview is read, the picture is complete:
[color=blue][i]“Adam can do all the stuff that Freddie did and more. It doesn’t matter what you throw at Adam — he can do it… He’s a born exhibitionist. He’s not Freddie, and he’s not pretending to be him, but he has a parallel set of equipment.”[/i][/color]
I understand what he's doing there. He's not saying AL is better, he's just selling what he's got - as best he can. Cut the guy some slack.
Also if we read the whole interview - instead of nitpicking the bits we don't like, we'll see some stunningly high praise for Freddie in a manner no-one would expect:
[color=blue][i]"He (Freddie) was very good on the guitar, very unorthodox — all downstrokes. He wrote the riff for “Ogre Battle”, I used to play it with up- and downstrokes, but he was all downstrokes. Imagine how fast his right hand was moving! He had a frenetic energy on the guitar, which came across very well in that song. He played the rhythm on “Crazy Little Thing Called Love.” I wanted to sound as good as Freddie did on that record, which was damn good.[/i][/color]
Vocal harmony · Member since
I think you need to remember that the Bohemian Rhapsody film wasn't made by Brian, it was the work of 20th Century Fox a long standing film studio. Neither Brian or Roger wrote the script.
Although it was a biopic, it has to have some drama in it, the Queen organisation had some say as to what content the film would use, and they provided much of the history of the band to the script writer. They dug their heels in and said no to going into any great detail about Freddies parties and nights in clubs around London, Newyork and Munich and drug taking (coke) which he and Roger were known for. They certainly didn't deny any of it but it didn't become a major focus of the story.
I think the film made it clear that Freddie pulled Brian and Roger from the point of failure with Smile and steered them in a new direction, which became hugely successful. Did Freddie leave and than ask to rejoin, I think it's very possible. Go back and watch documentaries like Days Of Our Lives, a listen closely to some of the interviews, particularly Freddie and Jim Beach, it is obvious that there was a huge fracture at some point (around Mr Bad Guy) in the four members relation ship within the band, it's evident in the interviews although they don't go into great detail, the fact they talk about it means that it was something, rather than nothing.
In the 80's they made it clear that the idea of playing Live Aid brought them together at a time when they weren't. Isn't it just possible that the film is actually telling a more truthful version of events than many of us would like to think happened. I'm not talking about the timeline in the film because that is shot to pieces, but from an entertaining point of view maybe fits better in a film than being wholly acurate. What film based on fact actually is factually correct all the way through.
As for Lambert, yes Brian does say a lot of glowing things about him, but he is equally positive about Freddie in documentary interviews. His view of Lambert doing stuff that Freddie couldn't, I think, is comment on Freddies's vocal problems which meant he could be variable from tour to tour,mi don't think he's saying Lambert is a better frontman or singer, just that he is able ( like him or not ) to use his range more freely than Freddie.
