I don’t understand how it can be interpreted that Brian is two faced, simply because he assisted in the movie, and praises Adam’s abilities. He doesn’t take anything from Freddie, the movie used some creative license in order to make it fit the Hollywood formula. It is done on every movie adaptation of a real-life story. By not focusing on the more salacious parts of Freddie’s life, the movie made it possible for millions more people to become aware of Freddie and his genius. Brian and the movie are promoting Freddie and his life...that is not a slight at all. So now Freddie has more fans and followers than ever before, thanks to the movie, Brian, and Roger.
Then, Brian praises Adam’s abilities, mainly his vocal range. It is well-known that rare if any artists can perform Freddie’s songs because of the extreme range Freddie had...and Brian says that Adam is another rarity that can do it. He doesn’t say Adam is better, more of a genius, or anything of the sort. He simply appreciates Adam’s singing abilities, and the fact that (Brian and Roger) can enjoy life by touring with a talented singer again.
It’s all very genuine and straight forward, it would seem.
No comment on the cat...fox...Briborg....whatever mask situation though..... : D
rockchic65 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]rockchic65 wrote:[/b]
^^^ This.[/QUOTE]
What, that brENsKi beat me to it! ;))[/QUOTE]
Hmmm, I must have posted at the same time you did. I agree with both your comments pretty much.
runner_70 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]ST17 wrote:[/b]
I still agree with Runner70 saying Brian is two faced. Let me explain on the one hand he has made a film about Freddie in Bo Rhap which was drenched in lies (as a friend towards Freddie, why dd he allow this)? He made Freddie look like a right twat, He then goes on to say Adam can do anything Freddie could do and more - really?
Adam cannot play piano or write a masterpiece like "Bohemian Rhapsody" so Brian is talking utter rubbish to make his new pet Adam look superior to Freddie.
May seems to want it both ways to make money, firstly getting exposure about the Rhapsody film then when that is over he is on a different side and praises Lambert, Brian is so two faced its unbelievable but so true. Here is a man now that does not care a damn what he says to the press. Yes he is a brilliant guitarist no one can deny that but his faithfulness towards Fred is in doubt in my opinion.
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Amen. And being a nostalgia act in his own coverband for almost 20 years now is surely a goal.....
Saint Jiub · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]
Did Freddie leave and than ask to rejoin, I think it's very possible. [/QUOTE]
When did Freddie have an opportunity to quit Queen and then beg to rejoin Queen?
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April 6, 1981 - Fun In Space released
April 8, 1982 – Queen Hot Space Tour begins
May 21 1982 - Hot Space released
November 3,1982 – Hot Space Tour ends
Early 1983 - Work on Mr Bad Guy began
August 1983 – Queen begin The Works album
February 27, 1984 - The Works released
August 24, 1984 – Queen start The Works Tour (Europe Leg)
November 20, 1984 – The Works Tour (Europe Leg) ends
April 13, 1985 – The Works Tour (2nd Leg) begins
April 29, 1985 – Mr. Bad Guy album released
May 15, 1985 – The Works Tour (2nd Leg) ends
July 13, 1985 - Live Aid
September 1985 - Work on A Kind of Magic begins
June 2, 1986 - A Kind of Magic released
June 7, 1986 - Magic Tour begins (Paul Prenter fired earlier in 1986)
August 9, 1986 - Magic Tour ends
runner_70 · Member since
The rewriting of Queen history according to Brian May is in full swing.....Saint Brian - the leader of Queen
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Saint Jiub wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]
Did Freddie leave and than ask to rejoin, I think it's very possible. [/QUOTE]When did Freddie have an opportunity to quit Queen and then beg to rejoin Queen?
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list proves nothing. band members can quit for a few days - or less.
Ringo left in Aug 68 - didn't he fuck off skiing?
the Beatles were recording Get Back (at Twickenham, Jan '69) and George just walked out. John even quipped sarcastically "we'll get Eric, he's easy to work with"
George returned to finish recording the album.
runner_70 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Saint Jiub wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]
Did Freddie leave and than ask to rejoin, I think it's very possible. [/QUOTE]When did Freddie have an opportunity to quit Queen and then beg to rejoin Queen?
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list proves nothing. band members can quit for a few days - or less.
Ringo left in Aug 68 - didn't he fuck off skiing?
the Beatles were recording Get Back (at Twickenham, Jan '69) and George just walked out. John even quipped sarcastically "we'll get Eric, he's easy to work with"
George returned to finish recording the album.
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He was talking about the movie and how it was shown that Freddie begged to get back into the band after a lengthy hiatus. Is it possible that you understand the discussed topic only for ONCE??? This is the serious discussion forum not the one for stalkers and retarded clowns so go elsewhere
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]He was talking about the movie and how it was shown that Freddie begged to get back into the band after a lengthy hiatus. Is it possible that you understand the discussed topic only for ONCE??? This is the serious discussion forum not the one for stalkers and retarded clowns so go elsewhere[/QUOTE]
I honestly think you've misread his post.
He said
[b][i]"When did Freddie have an opportunity to quit Queen and then beg to rejoin Queen?"[/b][/i]
and then proceeded to list a timeline of 1980s events. I wasn't claiming Freddie did/didn't do anything. All I did was prove that a short window of time doesn't prevent a departure/rejoin from happening. Bands do it all the time.
As I said - I haven't claimed Freddie left, I just said time was not the reason.
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]YourValentine wrote:[/b]
I imagine your wives and partners ask you tonight: what did you do today and you have to say: I fought over Brian May's face mask on a Queen forum....[/QUOTE]
Just perfect.
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]runner_70 wrote:[/b]
He was innovative until 1991 because Freddie brought out the best in him. For mor than two decades he has completely lost any creative spark and did not write a good song since 1998's " Another world"[/QUOTE]
You just cannot buy a clue. Ragging on a legendary musician because he had a solid 25 years of creativity and dried up, like virtually every other artist who has ever lived?
Brian May is one of the most respected musicians of the past century, not least because he is also a PhD in astrophysics instead of writing new music nobody wants to hear. You, on the other hand, are a petty and angry forum troll in an extreme minority that nobody will give a shit about after you're pushing up the daisies.
That's presuming anyone even cares now, which may perhaps be short-sighted of me, but I'm in a generous mood today.
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
I don't like Brian's current version of Queen, but - Brian is not being two-faced, how can doing exactly as he wants be two-faced? It'd be two-faced to do one thing but pretend it's for different reasons. Brian's doing what he wants on HIS terms - definitely NOT two-faced. If anything it's the exact opposite.
New music doesn't make any money, so there's no real motivation to make an LP - unless it's a live recording (which may help to promote the next tour?). To make new LPs (these days) - an artist is mainly doing it for altruism's sake alone.
I suppose my point is; they're all finding different ways to enjoy their old age - but on their terms. And that's their right alone. We've no real right to say "they can't do this" - we can say how much we don;t like it, but, ultimately, their lives are not our decision to make. How would we feel, if someone else told us how we should live our lives?
So I respect their choices - whether I agree or not.[/QUOTE]
This testimony is that of a reasonable, educated, and considerate person.
I'd suggest certain people here watch and learn, but they have exhibited zero ability nor interest in doing so.
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]ST17 wrote:[/b]
he has made a film about Freddie in Bo Rhap which was drenched in lies (as a friend towards Freddie, why dd he allow this)? He made Freddie look like a right twat[/QUOTE]
They barely mentioned his drug problem and how difficult it was to work with him by the mid 80s. They didn't mention him smashing a mirror over his assistant's head. They went easy on Mercury. This has been mentioned countless times here, and you continue to peddle your baseless talking points.
Anyone who was there knows that the events portrayed in the film - as anachronistic as some moments are, as per Hollywood's MO - are ultimately accurate.
You weren't there, and you don't know anyone who was there. How would you know? Your knowledge base consists of things you've read on forums like this and in books, which is only a small portion of what happened in an eventful and complicated 20+ year period.
But even if Super 8 video footage of Mercury smashing the mirror over Pete Brown's head popped up, you'd claim it was doctored because it doesn't suit your agenda.
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]ST17 wrote:[/b]
For Brian to actually compare Freddie with Adam is wrong as far as vocal ability is concerned because Freddie was more a flexible singer were Adam is west end theatre style of singer.[/QUOTE]
But considering you aren't a musician and haven't even begun to study the evolution of Freddie Mercury's voice, you are unable to grasp the basic reality that Lambert is a far more consistent singer live than Mercury ever was even at his peak.
This has nothing to do with writing, piano playing, expression, stage presence, or even one's personal taste. Brian's comment is purely about technical ability.
Lambert has done hundreds of shows, and his consistency is not only better than Mercury's but amongst the finest in the business.
Show me one video of Mercury live singing Who Wants To Live Forever like the album, in the original key.
Spoiler alert: you can't. But you can find hundreds of Lambert nailing it. every. goddamned. night.
Saint Jiub · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Saint Jiub wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]
Did Freddie leave and than ask to rejoin, I think it's very possible. [/QUOTE]When did Freddie have an opportunity to quit Queen and then beg to rejoin Queen?
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list proves nothing. band members can quit for a few days - or less.
Ringo left in Aug 68 - didn't he fuck off skiing?
the Beatles were recording Get Back (at Twickenham, Jan '69) and George just walked out. John even quipped sarcastically "we'll get Eric, he's easy to work with"
George returned to finish recording the album.
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Fucking off for a few days is hardly a genuine break up of a band. Going to Bali to see God and Dali for a few days is a whole lot different than permanently quitting the band and then later begging to rejoin the band.
Asked if the band ever looked likely to split while Mercury was alive, May replies “Oh, it was breaking up the whole time! Every time we made an album it seemed like we were about to break up, because of this business of ‘what are we and where are we going?’ All of us left the band at some point, and not just one time – all the way through.”
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Saint Jiub wrote:[/b]Fucking off for a few days is hardly a genuine break up of a band. Going to Bali to see God and Dali for a few days is a whole lot different than permanently quitting the band and then later begging to rejoin the band.
www.mojo4music.com/articles/25514/brian-may-queen-breaking-apart-whole-time/
Brian May:
Asked if the band ever looked likely to split while Mercury was alive, May replies “Oh, it was breaking up the whole time! Every time we made an album it seemed like we were about to break up, because of this business of ‘what are we and where are we going?’ All of us left the band at some point, and not just one time – all the way through.”[/QUOTE]
i think that depends wholly upon the circumstances. you'd need to watch the Beatles Twickenham film to understand that it was a split. George really was walking out for good. Things like watertight recording contracts kind of force bands to "go through the motions" and avoid record company lawsuits. Then once back and recording, perhaps he thought he could see it through, and with time perhaps the ill-feeling eased off.
There were several genuine splits between 68-70.
The Twickenham tapes show the band splitting up - warts and all.
There were allegedly two reasons for the recording/rehearsal sessions being filmed:
1. to get back (geddit) the feel of what they were always about - playing together
2. that with documentary cameras there, they might all be on their best behaviour.
in reality, it really couldn't have turned out any worse. it was like really bad reality TV - people turning up late - or not at all, the friction between Paul and George was palpable
Putting aside George and Ringo's genuine walkouts (multiple times for both), it'd be hard to tell the actual date of the actual split.
John announced in Sept 69 that he'd be leaving after the recording was finished.
Paul announced he'd officially left in April 1970.
So when Paul actually legally dissolved the band (at the end of 1970) they'd long since split for the final time anyway.
