No Queen Adam Lambert Live Releases

SweetCaroline wrote:

It never ends! The only reason I have compared the two is when butt hurt Freddie fans attack Adam for his singing or what he wears on stage. Then I have pointed out some of the outrageous outfits Freddie wore back in the day. It doesn’t matter. That was then and this is now. Some people like to go around and around in circles and never get to the end. If Freddie was here and still performing no one would know who Adam is because none of this would have happened.

Who are you trying to fool. You have often compared Freddie to Lambert, more than anyone else here. Even with the chest hair aspect of it, as if one was better than the other.
You don't know the first thing about Freddie, if you did, you would know how much he evolved through the years in many ways. Musically, fashion wise, he was never stuck doing just one look or sound.
Damn right if Freddie was still here, and performing one would know about AL. That should tell you something how AL's career is lacking in many ways.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Damn right if Freddie was still here, and performing one would know about AL. That should tell you something how AL's career is lacking in many ways.

Well Queen fans on a Queen board wouldn't know about him but plenty other people would. Adam's career is doing fine, not everyone is destined to be an Elvis or Freddie but there's plenty artists out there doing their thing and having a great career, being a legend isn't a necessity.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Damn right if Freddie was still here, and performing one would know about AL. That should tell you something how AL's career is lacking in many ways.

Well Queen fans on a Queen board wouldn't know about him but plenty other people would. Adam's career is doing fine, not everyone is destined to be an Elvis or Freddie but there's plenty artists out there doing their thing and having a great career, being a legend isn't a necessity.

How many would know about him, given that he is better known for singing Queen songs and cover songs than his own music?
Yea, he's doing fine, but he would not be where is now without the Queen legacy.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

How many would know about him, given that he is better known for singing Queen songs and cover songs than his own music?
Yea, he's doing fine, but he would not be where is now without the Queen legacy.

You've absolutely no way to know that, he was already doing fine before teaming up with Brian & Roger and pleny people knew about him so if he hadn't started touring with them he'd have just concetrated more on his solo career and other opportunities. He's not more known for singing Queen songs at all, he sings WITH Queen but he's known for doing his own solo stuff in between and yeah he does the odd cover for special events like the Kennedy Center, so do lots of artists.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

How many would know about him, given that he is better known for singing Queen songs and cover songs than his own music?
Yea, he's doing fine, but he would not be where is now without the Queen legacy.

You've absolutely no way to know that, he was already doing fine before teaming up with Brian & Roger and pleny people knew about him so if he hadn't started touring with them he'd have just concetrated more on his solo career and other opportunities. He's not more known for singing Queen songs at all, he sings WITH Queen but he's known for doing his own solo stuff in between and yeah he does the odd cover for special events like the Kennedy Center, so do lots of artists.

I do t think many people knew of him before Q+AL started.
Yes, he is known own more for singing Queen songs than his solo music, that's pretty obvious.
He sings with Brian and Roger, not with Queen, big difference.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

I do t think many people knew of him before Q+AL started.
Yes, he is known own more for singing Queen songs than his solo music, that's pretty obvious.
He sings with Brian and Roger, not with Queen, big difference.

People knew of him before QAL, he was touring the world solo and even won favourite international artist of the year in China, his albums charted at No 3, 1 and 3 and was invited to various events to speak or perform relating to LGBT issues.

Just because he sings with Brian & Roger (and they are still part of Queen hence it's called Queen +) doesn't mean he's more known for singing Queen songs, plenty fans are more interested in his solo work and solo tours than the Queen stuff and he's known for both and lots of other stuff as well.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

I do t think many people knew of him before Q+AL started.
Yes, he is known own more for singing Queen songs than his solo music, that's pretty obvious.
He sings with Brian and Roger, not with Queen, big difference.

People knew of him before QAL, he was touring the world solo and even won favourite international artist of the year in China, his albums charted at No 3, 1 and 3 and was invited to various events to speak or perform relating to LGBT issues.

Just because he sings with Brian & Roger (and they are still part of Queen hence it's called Queen +) doesn't mean he's more known for singing Queen songs, plenty fans are more interested in his solo work and solo tours than the Queen stuff and he's known for both and lots of other stuff as well.

His Glamberts knew, it was hardly groundbreaking solo tours that he did solo wise. The Queen legacy is what pretty much got his name out there. Otherwise he'd be known as the runner up for America Idol, and a career that very likely would not have lasted this long, if not for the Queen connections. See what I'm getting at.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

His Glamberts knew, it was hardly groundbreaking solo tours that he did solo wise. The Queen legacy is what pretty much got his name out there. Otherwise he'd be known as the runner up for America Idol, and a career that very likely would not have lasted this long, if not for the Queen connections. See what I'm getting at.

So doing 110 shows all over the world on his first solo tour was nothing? Do you know how many artists from those shows actually get to tour internationally? Not many is the answer. He's always been known as the runner up on AI but that doesn't mean his career wouldn't have lasted, he was offered lots of opportunites early on and that likely would have continued if he'd not been tied up touring a lot of the time. The Queen connection isn't what gets him unrelated gigs, the majority of the stuff he's done has had nothing to do with Queen so you've no way to know if he'd have been asked to do those things without ever having worked with them. The fact is no one knows or could know because he did work with Queen so it's all speculation whichever way you look at it and pointless speculation in reality.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

His Glamberts knew, it was hardly groundbreaking solo tours that he did solo wise. The Queen legacy is what pretty much got his name out there. Otherwise he'd be known as the runner up for America Idol, and a career that very likely would not have lasted this long, if not for the Queen connections. See what I'm getting at.

So doing 110 shows all over the world on his first solo tour was nothing? Do you know how many artists from those shows actually get to tour internationally? Not many is the answer. He's always been known as the runner up on AI but that doesn't mean his career wouldn't have lasted, he was offered lots of opportunites early on and that likely would have continued if he'd not been tied up touring a lot of the time. The Queen connection isn't what gets him unrelated gigs, the majority of the stuff he's done has had nothing to do with Queen so you've no way to know if he'd have been asked to do those things without ever having worked with them. The fact is no one knows or could know because he did work with Queen so it's all speculation whichever way you look at it and pointless speculation in reality.

Please don't resort to twisting things I've not even posted.
I said it wasn't groundbreaking, not that it wasn't " nothing".
AL owes a heck of alot because of the Queen connections, fact. Where would he be without it, I'd assume he'd be lesser known. Since Q+AL started he hasn't managed to satay with the same record company. I think it's funny he didn't want to do an album of cover songs but he's been touring with Brian and Roger singing Queen songs for years now. It's a bit ironic.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

His Glamberts knew, it was hardly groundbreaking solo tours that he did solo wise. The Queen legacy is what pretty much got his name out there. Otherwise he'd be known as the runner up for America Idol, and a career that very likely would not have lasted this long, if not for the Queen connections. See what I'm getting at.

So doing 110 shows all over the world on his first solo tour was nothing? Do you know how many artists from those shows actually get to tour internationally? Not many is the answer. He's always been known as the runner up on AI but that doesn't mean his career wouldn't have lasted, he was offered lots of opportunites early on and that likely would have continued if he'd not been tied up touring a lot of the time. The Queen connection isn't what gets him unrelated gigs, the majority of the stuff he's done has had nothing to do with Queen so you've no way to know if he'd have been asked to do those things without ever having worked with them. The fact is no one knows or could know because he did work with Queen so it's all speculation whichever way you look at it and pointless speculation in reality.

Please don't resort to twisting things I've not even posted.
I said it wasn't groundbreaking, not that it wasn't " nothing".
AL owes a heck of alot because of the Queen connections, fact. Where would he be without it, I'd assume he'd be lesser known. Since Q+AL started he hasn't managed to satay with the same record company. I think it's funny he didn't want to do an album of cover songs but he's been touring with Brian and Roger singing Queen songs for years now. It's a bit ironic.

What's groundbreaking meant to mean then? You implied his tours weren't groundbreaking, don't really know how a tour could be, all artists tour it's commonplace and he toured solo for six months doing 110 shows coming off Idol so he was doing well considering what a lot of artists from those shows end up doing.

He was already known, has he been exposed to more people yes and some have become fans but then he's won fans who've seen him on TV show etc which have nothing to do with Queen so it's not all down to that.

Touring live with a band is very different from doing a covers album, he likes touring with Brian & Roger and singing Queen music but when he's doing his solo stuff he wants it to be original, why would he want to tour covering music and then record an album of covers as well? Nothing ironic about it they're completely different things. And why would he not change labels when they made it clear it was a cover album or nothing? Doesn't matter now anyway, he's gone indie and is free to do whatever he wants and that suits him far better than having to dance to the labels tune.

I don’t know if that 110 show international tour was groundbreaking but after the rough start he got at the AMA show, it was a good way to start over. His glam nation shows were mesmerizing and I saw 3 of them in Ohio and Pennsylvania.

SweetCaroline wrote:

I don’t know if that 110 show international tour was groundbreaking but after the rough start he got at the AMA show, it was a good way to start over. His glam nation shows were mesmerizing and I saw 3 of them in Ohio and Pennsylvania.

You idolize him too much, like a Trump Worshipper worships Trump.

MisterCosmicc wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote:

I don’t know if that 110 show international tour was groundbreaking but after the rough start he got at the AMA show, it was a good way to start over. His glam nation shows were mesmerizing and I saw 3 of them in Ohio and Pennsylvania.

You idolize him too much, like a Trump Worshipper worships Trump.

Or a Trump hater who hates Trump.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

His Glamberts knew, it was hardly groundbreaking solo tours that he did solo wise. The Queen legacy is what pretty much got his name out there. Otherwise he'd be known as the runner up for America Idol, and a career that very likely would not have lasted this long, if not for the Queen connections. See what I'm getting at.

So doing 110 shows all over the world on his first solo tour was nothing? Do you know how many artists from those shows actually get to tour internationally? Not many is the answer. He's always been known as the runner up on AI but that doesn't mean his career wouldn't have lasted, he was offered lots of opportunites early on and that likely would have continued if he'd not been tied up touring a lot of the time. The Queen connection isn't what gets him unrelated gigs, the majority of the stuff he's done has had nothing to do with Queen so you've no way to know if he'd have been asked to do those things without ever having worked with them. The fact is no one knows or could know because he did work with Queen so it's all speculation whichever way you look at it and pointless speculation in reality.

Please don't resort to twisting things I've not even posted.
I said it wasn't groundbreaking, not that it wasn't " nothing".
AL owes a heck of alot because of the Queen connections, fact. Where would he be without it, I'd assume he'd be lesser known. Since Q+AL started he hasn't managed to satay with the same record company. I think it's funny he didn't want to do an album of cover songs but he's been touring with Brian and Roger singing Queen songs for years now. It's a bit ironic.

What's groundbreaking meant to mean then? You implied his tours weren't groundbreaking, don't really know how a tour could be, all artists tour it's commonplace and he toured solo for six months doing 110 shows coming off Idol so he was doing well considering what a lot of artists from those shows end up doing.

He was already known, has he been exposed to more people yes and some have become fans but then he's won fans who've seen him on TV show etc which have nothing to do with Queen so it's not all down to that.

Touring live with a band is very different from doing a covers album, he likes touring with Brian & Roger and singing Queen music but when he's doing his solo stuff he wants it to be original, why would he want to tour covering music and then record an album of covers as well? Nothing ironic about it they're completely different things. And why would he not change labels when they made it clear it was a cover album or nothing? Doesn't matter now anyway, he's gone indie and is free to do whatever he wants and that suits him far better than having to dance to the labels tune.

Sorry, missed your post earlier.
Since you ask, groundbreaking , means innovative, sorry his solo shows and tours were hardly that, not even close really. I can't name one Glamnation show that stood out.
Yea, he was known in some circles before Q+AL as three things.The guy who was a runner up on Idol, the guy who kissed his same sex band mates on an awards show, and his Rolling Stone cover. I wouldn't call myself a Glambert, but I watched his season of Idol.
I do find detailed it ironic as heck it's said that he didn't want to do an album of 80's covers, but has toured with Brian and Roger for the better part of a decade now.
I don't think AL is as "free" as you might think or hope. Like I've said before, the lines are blurred between his solove music and Q+AL. I think he is a very odd place these last two or three years.

SweetCaroline wrote:

I don’t know if that 110 show international tour was groundbreaking but after the rough start he got at the AMA show, it was a good way to start over. His glam nation shows were mesmerizing and I saw 3 of them in Ohio and Pennsylvania.

No, they weren't groundbreaking at all. I used to be a 90s dance music fan, I had lots of those type of concerts on VHS ( aww, good times LOL ) and AL's early shows reminded me of those. Even some of his shows during TOH reminded me of it.
There is not an AL solo tour I'd call groundbreaking. And yes I'm judging that by what I've seen on YouTube.