Here's the thing. ADAM DOESN'T ROCK. He's NOT ROCK. That's the fucking problem![/QUOTE]
But the point we're trying to make is that it's your opinion. For many others people will disagree entirely with you. Don't make statements like this without accurate or liable proof. [/QUOTE]
Go look up rock 'n' roll... generic Adam isn't part of that industry.
rockchic65 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]MisterCosmicc wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Young Music Fan wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]MisterCosmicc wrote:[/b]
Here's the thing. ADAM DOESN'T ROCK. He's NOT ROCK. That's the fucking problem![/QUOTE]
But the point we're trying to make is that it's your opinion. For many others people will disagree entirely with you. Don't make statements like this without accurate or liable proof. [/QUOTE]
Go look up rock 'n' roll... generic Adam isn't part of that industry.[/QUOTE]
There's a whole host of "rock & metal" musicians who rate Adam, they've seen the QAL shows and think he's brilliant, doesn't seem to matter to them that he's not what you consider "rock", maybe they're open minded enough to appreciate what he is regardless of what you imagine that to be.
Iron Butterfly · Member since
AL will never be a rocker to me. I can't name one solo song he has done that is in any way rock, let alone hard rock. Take his latest songs , that is nowhere near rock.
I think pop and EDM is where his feet are firmly planted.
And I've never seen a singer having to stick his tongue out to be able to reach high notes. I think AL is accustomed to doing it.
rockchic65 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Iron Butterfly wrote:[/b]
AL will never be a rocker to me. I can't name one solo song he has done that is in any way rock, let alone hard rock. Take his latest songs , that is nowhere near rock.
I think pop and EDM is where his feet are firmly planted.
And I've never seen a singer having to stick his tongue out to be able to reach high notes. I think AL is accustomed to doing it. [/QUOTE]
His latest music is definitely not EDM it's pop/funk with distinct bass lines and real instruments, couldn't get further from EDM. No he has no actual hard rock songs on his albums but that doesn't mean he can't sing rock and rock covers a whole host of styles, they don't all sound like Freddie or Bon Jovi, rock is more about the way the songs are put together and instrumentation than about a paricular type of voice.
As to the tongue thing - http://youtu.be/AVufwVLHAtY?t=105
Not all singers pull it as forward as Adam but it is a vocal technique and while I'm sure if he made a concious effort to stop doing it he's still be able to hit the notes no problem he's done it so long he'd have to be thinking all the time, why would he bother, most people couldn't care less about what he does with his tongue.
Iron Butterfly · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]rockchic65 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Iron Butterfly wrote:[/b]
AL will never be a rocker to me. I can't name one solo song he has done that is in any way rock, let alone hard rock. Take his latest songs , that is nowhere near rock.
I think pop and EDM is where his feet are firmly planted.
And I've never seen a singer having to stick his tongue out to be able to reach high notes. I think AL is accustomed to doing it. [/QUOTE]
His latest music is definitely not EDM it's pop/funk with distinct bass lines and real instruments, couldn't get further from EDM. No he has no actual hard rock songs on his albums but that doesn't mean he can't sing rock and rock covers a whole host of styles, they don't all sound like Freddie or Bon Jovi, rock is more about the way the songs are put together and instrumentation than about a paricular type of voice.
As to the tongue thing - http://youtu.be/AVufwVLHAtY?t=105
Not all singers pull it as forward as Adam but it is a vocal technique and while I'm sure if he made a concious effort to stop doing it he's still be able to hit the notes no problem he's done it so long he'd have to be thinking all the time, why would he bother, most people couldn't care less about what he does with his tongue.[/QUOTE]
Pop music can use real instruments, Queen has a few examples, don't worry I won't say which songs.
I'm sorry again, but AL will never be a rocker singer to me, granted I think he's improved, but he's not there. I hate Bon Jovi with a passion, but I wouldn't even put him in that league.
As for his tongue, some of his fans care alright, have you ever read fanfic? Omg. Anyways, I wish AL didn't have to do it. Or even do it at all.
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]rockchic65 wrote:[/b]There's a whole host of "rock & metal" musicians who rate Adam[/QUOTE]
name them. no, actually: quote them (ALL) word for word.
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b][QUOTE] [b]rockchic65 wrote:[/b]There's a whole host of "rock & metal" musicians who rate Adam[/QUOTE]name them. no, actually: quote them (ALL) word for word.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE] [b]ST17 wrote:[/b]Nice one Brenski this will be interesting lol[/QUOTE]
just being objective. i think when people make definite statements they should back them up.
it will be interesting to see if rockchic65's dictionary defines "a whole host" as:-
1. literally - as per correct meaning: A very large number or collection of people or things.
2. at least a dozen or so rock/metal musicians
3. less than a handful of people
4. nobody at all, but she once saw someone famous in the same room as AL
5. just the random imaginings of rockchic65
my guess? just a chance of 3, but more likely 4 or 5
Iron Butterfly · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]rockchic65 wrote:[/b]There's a whole host of "rock & metal" musicians who rate Adam[/QUOTE]
name them. no, actually: quote them (ALL) word for word.
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Will that include Brian and Roger? ;-)
Vocal harmony · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]MisterCosmicc
Adam's a trained singer, eh? Freddie's not. He didn't need training wheels.
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Well he obviously did, and because he wasn't trained his voice suffered. That's why vocally Friday night at Wembley is better than Saturday on the magic tour.
Most of The Crazy tour is better than a lot of the other 1979 gigs. It's why whole tours are inconsistent going from brilliant to average.
Freddie had a great voice but lacked the skill to use it and take care of it professionally. Compare trained opera singers, who often perform five nights a week and use their full range.
Lambert is trained to a point, mind that point allows him to use his voice at a consistent professional level.
Freddie couldn't do that live, so maybe "training wheels" was what he should have thought about.
runner_70 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]MisterCosmicc
Adam's a trained singer, eh? Freddie's not. He didn't need training wheels.
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Well he obviously did, and because he wasn't trained his voice suffered. That's why vocally Friday night at Wembley is better than Saturday on the magic tour.
Most of The Crazy tour is better than a lot of the other 1979 gigs. It's why whole tours are inconsistent going from brilliant to average.
Freddie had a great voice but lacked the skill to use it and take care of it professionally. Compare trained opera singers, who often perform five nights a week and use their full range.
Lambert is trained to a point, mind that point allows him to use his voice at a consistent professional level.
Freddie couldn't do that live, so maybe "training wheels" was what he should have thought about.[/QUOTE]
There you have it again. Fucking Glamtarts visiting a QUEEN noticeboard and slamming Freddie for being not capable of singing properly while the asshat Lamebird is hyped to death. He lacked skill in 1979, one of those years (1979-1981 being his peak) where his voice completey peaked? And some fucking Glamtart asshole is coming to this board talking about Freddie being not capable of singing? How delusional can you fucking pricks get? You fucking tranny idol is not even a musician let alone a singer. He is an EMO screamer with a paperthin shit voice destroying others songs and making a career out of being a cover crooner. Gimme a break really. Hitting high notes is not equal to good singing. When I hear this tool yodeling at the end of TYMD like someone whose nuts get slapped I have to vomit.
And you really wonder why Glamtarts are hated on Queen boards?? Really????
Get the fuck out of here like sniff did.
Holly2003 · Member since
Fred didn't have to be perfect every night. He was a rock singer in a rock band. His job was to put on a show, make good music, energise the crowd etc. It wasn't his job to win a singing contest every night so that people 30 years later could point out every wrong note. I doubt anyone else will ever match what Fred achieved in his life.
rockchic65 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]
Fred didn't have to be perfect every night. He was a rock singer in a rock band. His job was to put on a show, make good music, energise the crowd etc. It wasn't his job to win a singing contest every night so that people 30 years later could point out every wrong note. I doubt anyone else will ever match what Fred achieved in his life. [/QUOTE]
And that's the point and why it's ridiculous of some to keep comparing Freddie and Adam, they are completely different types of singers/artists and for people to keep expecting Adam to sing or perform like Freddie is as pointless as anyone expecting Freddie to have sung and performed like someone else. All artists have their strengths and weaknesses and make the best of what they have.
runner_70 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]rockchic65 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]
Fred didn't have to be perfect every night. He was a rock singer in a rock band. His job was to put on a show, make good music, energise the crowd etc. It wasn't his job to win a singing contest every night so that people 30 years later could point out every wrong note. I doubt anyone else will ever match what Fred achieved in his life. [/QUOTE]
And that's the point and why it's ridiculous of some to keep comparing Freddie and Adam, they are completely different types of singers/artists and for people to keep expecting Adam to sing or perform like Freddie is as pointless as anyone expecting Freddie to have sung and performed like someone else. All artists have their strengths and weaknesses and make the best of what they have.
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We are still waiting for the arsenal of "a whole host of "rock & metal" musicians who rate Adam" -enlighten us please!
rockchic65 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b][QUOTE] [b]rockchic65 wrote:[/b]There's a whole host of "rock & metal" musicians who rate Adam[/QUOTE]name them. no, actually: quote them (ALL) word for word.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE] [b]ST17 wrote:[/b]Nice one Brenski this will be interesting lol[/QUOTE]
just being objective. i think when people make definite statements they should back them up.
it will be interesting to see if rockchic65's dictionary defines "a whole host" as:-
1. literally - as per correct meaning: A very large number or collection of people or things.
2. at least a dozen or so rock/metal musicians
3. less than a handful of people
4. nobody at all, but she once saw someone famous in the same room as AL
5. just the random imaginings of rockchic65
my guess? just a chance of 3, but more likely 4 or 5
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Mike Portnoy -Thank you @adamlambert for being the ONLY singer that could carry that torch (and doing it so incredibly well)
They could not have found a singer more talented to front the band than Adam Lambert.
Jeff Scott Soto, "Quite possibly the best version of WWTLF, heard it sung tonight Queenwillrock AdamLambert.
Alice Cooper, “I’ll tell you what the first time I saw Adam Lambert on Idol and your not gonna believe this I said that guy should sing for Queen”.
Meatloaf, listen for yourself - http://youtu.be/FGbNlnq3cLA - the producer he mentions (Rob Cavallo) also thinks Adam is brilliant.
Dee Snider replying to a question "are you supporting Adam Lambert, I'm lost tho I'm thrilled to see you tweeting"
Dee "yes I am Adam Lambert has an amazing voice.
Dee again "Being a DAY ONE - ALBUM ONE - TOUR ONE (opening for Mott the Hoople) Queen fan & worshipper of Freddie Mercury (not that my vocal style shows it)...I TOTALLY AGREE!
adamlambert is the perfect replacement. Not an imitator, but respectful of the legacy with his own amazing voice!
Rick Savage, Joe Elliot, "For me the absolute highlight of last Saturdays show at the 3Arena in Dublin was Queen and Adam Lambert playing that song. Unbelievable. The lights, the lasers, the sound, the performances of everybody on stage was absolutely top notch. If you haven't got a ticket yet, go see these guys. Legends of course we all know that. Adam Lambert will be the first to stand up and say he's no Fred, but my goodness one of the best live vocals I've ever heard. And Rick Savage who was sat next to me said exactly the same thing. Was Adam Lambert last week in Dublin."
Slash - Has said he only went on Idol as a mentor because of hearing Adam sing.
Rob Halford - my personal favourite - http://youtu.be/Gmuhl_6M-t0
James Michael "there's probably not a better male singer on the planet than Adam Lambert" Also listens to Adam with earbuds for half an hour before his shows to get in the headspace of vocal placement etc.
Will they do for now?
rockchic65 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Iron Butterfly wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]rockchic65 wrote:[/b]There's a whole host of "rock & metal" musicians who rate Adam[/QUOTE]
name them. no, actually: quote them (ALL) word for word.
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Will that include Brian and Roger? ;-)[/QUOTE]
No, B & R are a given and don't need me to repeat their comments.
