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rockchic65 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote:

Who else finds Adam’s version of Who Wants To Live Forever absolutely terrible? He starts screaming the notes because he can’t sing them correctly. Freddie’s original version was a power ballad, I’m unsure what Adam’s is. Bunch of thin pitched screaming. Perhaps his worst vocal performances.


Well that particular song is the one everyone says he sings brilliantly, even one's who don't really like him with Queen. He doesn't scream the notes at all on this song.



Well obviously not everyone, MisterCosmicc and are examples ;-).


Well he's in the minority where that song is concerned and knows zero about vocals if he thinks he's "screaming". There's plenty examples of Adam's "screams" but that song doesn't have em.



Freddie would do the same damn thing, not sure why Lambert fans can’t agree Adam does it. It shows professionalism, honestly. Adam knows when or when not his voice will crack, and sings to prevent it. Compliment, but you have to accept he does things to prevent his voice from cracking. Every serious performer does.

As Freddie got older, he could sing out loudly in his low voice. That’s belting it out, something Adam doesn’t do. Maybe he will in a couple years, hey.

Two of Adam’s worst singing traits...
1. Holding a steady note for a few seconds frequently throughout a song... it’s simply not hard to do. People who aren’t terribly diverse vocally do that.
2. Sticking his tongue out. That doesn’t make him sing better, it’s a gimmick he has.


Adam holds notes because that's his singing style and saying it's not hard to do is daft, of course it's not if it's just a short hold but holding long notes is hard unless you have good breath control/support, nothing to do with being diverse but Adam is diverse as watching all the stuff he did prior to idol and since would show.

Sticking his tongue out allows him to hit high notes easier, he probably could sing them without and it's likely just become a habit that he does when not concentrating because that's how he learned to sing the high notes, so what, it's not a crime.

Of course Adam knows does things to prevent vocal cracks, I've never said any different, he's a trained singer and his technique is designed for longevity, not sure who's denying that. Adam belts in mix mostly, that's far healthier than pulling chest the way Freddie did and Adam wouldn't have that weighty sound to his voice even if he belted in full chest (he does sometimes) since he has a totally different vocal timbre. Really don't get why people keep expecting him to sing the way Freddie did live, he never has and likely never will, why would he when he can sing his own way, his fans obvlously loved his voice in the first place so why would he change it to suit a few people who can't get past the fact he doesn't do what Freddie did.


Adam holds those notes continulously, on like every fucking line. It's like his FUCKING TRADEMARK! Yes, it's NO TALENT, and holding an unflucuating note is common for those who have NO TALENT. Look at YouTube!

Sticking his tongue out doesn't allow him to hit the high notes, that's your propaganda. YouTube the highest singing notes of the world, you won't find tongues sticking out. Stick your tongue out while singing a chorus, it makes you create a fake high voice like Adam does. If he didn't do that, he could belt it better.

Adam's a trained singer, eh? Freddie's not. He didn't need training wheels.

Here's the thing. ADAM DOESN'T ROCK. He's NOT ROCK. That's the fucking problem!
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MisterCosmicc wrote:

Here's the thing. ADAM DOESN'T ROCK. He's NOT ROCK. That's the fucking problem!


But the point we're trying to make is that it's your opinion. For many others people will disagree entirely with you. Don't make statements like this without accurate or liable proof.
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Young Music Fan wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote:

Here's the thing. ADAM DOESN'T ROCK. He's NOT ROCK. That's the fucking problem!


But the point we're trying to make is that it's your opinion. For many others people will disagree entirely with you. Don't make statements like this without accurate or liable proof.


Go look up rock 'n' roll... generic Adam isn't part of that industry.
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MisterCosmicc wrote:

Young Music Fan wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote:

Here's the thing. ADAM DOESN'T ROCK. He's NOT ROCK. That's the fucking problem!


But the point we're trying to make is that it's your opinion. For many others people will disagree entirely with you. Don't make statements like this without accurate or liable proof.


Go look up rock 'n' roll... generic Adam isn't part of that industry.


There's a whole host of "rock & metal" musicians who rate Adam, they've seen the QAL shows and think he's brilliant, doesn't seem to matter to them that he's not what you consider "rock", maybe they're open minded enough to appreciate what he is regardless of what you imagine that to be.
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AL will never be a rocker to me. I can't name one solo song he has done that is in any way rock, let alone hard rock. Take his latest songs , that is nowhere near rock.
I think pop and EDM is where his feet are firmly planted.
And I've never seen a singer having to stick his tongue out to be able to reach high notes. I think AL is accustomed to doing it.
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Iron Butterfly wrote:

AL will never be a rocker to me. I can't name one solo song he has done that is in any way rock, let alone hard rock. Take his latest songs , that is nowhere near rock.
I think pop and EDM is where his feet are firmly planted.
And I've never seen a singer having to stick his tongue out to be able to reach high notes. I think AL is accustomed to doing it.


His latest music is definitely not EDM it's pop/funk with distinct bass lines and real instruments, couldn't get further from EDM. No he has no actual hard rock songs on his albums but that doesn't mean he can't sing rock and rock covers a whole host of styles, they don't all sound like Freddie or Bon Jovi, rock is more about the way the songs are put together and instrumentation than about a paricular type of voice.

As to the tongue thing - http://youtu.be/AVufwVLHAtY?t=105

Not all singers pull it as forward as Adam but it is a vocal technique and while I'm sure if he made a concious effort to stop doing it he's still be able to hit the notes no problem he's done it so long he'd have to be thinking all the time, why would he bother, most people couldn't care less about what he does with his tongue.
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rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

AL will never be a rocker to me. I can't name one solo song he has done that is in any way rock, let alone hard rock. Take his latest songs , that is nowhere near rock.
I think pop and EDM is where his feet are firmly planted.
And I've never seen a singer having to stick his tongue out to be able to reach high notes. I think AL is accustomed to doing it.


His latest music is definitely not EDM it's pop/funk with distinct bass lines and real instruments, couldn't get further from EDM. No he has no actual hard rock songs on his albums but that doesn't mean he can't sing rock and rock covers a whole host of styles, they don't all sound like Freddie or Bon Jovi, rock is more about the way the songs are put together and instrumentation than about a paricular type of voice.

As to the tongue thing - http://youtu.be/AVufwVLHAtY?t=105

Not all singers pull it as forward as Adam but it is a vocal technique and while I'm sure if he made a concious effort to stop doing it he's still be able to hit the notes no problem he's done it so long he'd have to be thinking all the time, why would he bother, most people couldn't care less about what he does with his tongue.


Pop music can use real instruments, Queen has a few examples, don't worry I won't say which songs.
I'm sorry again, but AL will never be a rocker singer to me, granted I think he's improved, but he's not there. I hate Bon Jovi with a passion, but I wouldn't even put him in that league.
As for his tongue, some of his fans care alright, have you ever read fanfic? Omg. Anyways, I wish AL didn't have to do it. Or even do it at all.
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rockchic65 wrote:There's a whole host of "rock & metal" musicians who rate Adam

name them. no, actually: quote them (ALL) word for word.
go deo na hÉireann The best QZ epoch: BG17-00 (Before Gerry 1996-2013)
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Nice one Brenski this will be interesting lol
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brENsKi wrote:
rockchic65 wrote:There's a whole host of "rock & metal" musicians who rate Adam
name them. no, actually: quote them (ALL) word for word.


ST17 wrote:Nice one Brenski this will be interesting lol


just being objective. i think when people make definite statements they should back them up.

it will be interesting to see if rockchic65's dictionary defines "a whole host" as:-
1. literally - as per correct meaning: A very large number or collection of people or things.
2. at least a dozen or so rock/metal musicians
3. less than a handful of people
4. nobody at all, but she once saw someone famous in the same room as AL
5. just the random imaginings of rockchic65

my guess? just a chance of 3, but more likely 4 or 5



go deo na hÉireann The best QZ epoch: BG17-00 (Before Gerry 1996-2013)
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brENsKi wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:There's a whole host of "rock & metal" musicians who rate Adam

name them. no, actually: quote them (ALL) word for word.


Will that include Brian and Roger? ;-)
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MisterCosmicc

Adam's a trained singer, eh? Freddie's not. He didn't need training wheels.
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Well he obviously did, and because he wasn't trained his voice suffered. That's why vocally Friday night at Wembley is better than Saturday on the magic tour.

Most of The Crazy tour is better than a lot of the other 1979 gigs. It's why whole tours are inconsistent going from brilliant to average.

Freddie had a great voice but lacked the skill to use it and take care of it professionally. Compare trained opera singers, who often perform five nights a week and use their full range.

Lambert is trained to a point, mind that point allows him to use his voice at a consistent professional level.

Freddie couldn't do that live, so maybe "training wheels" was what he should have thought about.
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Vocal harmony wrote:

MisterCosmicc

Adam's a trained singer, eh? Freddie's not. He didn't need training wheels.
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Well he obviously did, and because he wasn't trained his voice suffered. That's why vocally Friday night at Wembley is better than Saturday on the magic tour.

Most of The Crazy tour is better than a lot of the other 1979 gigs. It's why whole tours are inconsistent going from brilliant to average.

Freddie had a great voice but lacked the skill to use it and take care of it professionally. Compare trained opera singers, who often perform five nights a week and use their full range.

Lambert is trained to a point, mind that point allows him to use his voice at a consistent professional level.

Freddie couldn't do that live, so maybe "training wheels" was what he should have thought about.



There you have it again. Fucking Glamtarts visiting a QUEEN noticeboard and slamming Freddie for being not capable of singing properly while the asshat Lamebird is hyped to death. He lacked skill in 1979, one of those years (1979-1981 being his peak) where his voice completey peaked? And some fucking Glamtart asshole is coming to this board talking about Freddie being not capable of singing? How delusional can you fucking pricks get? You fucking tranny idol is not even a musician let alone a singer. He is an EMO screamer with a paperthin shit voice destroying others songs and making a career out of being a cover crooner. Gimme a break really. Hitting high notes is not equal to good singing. When I hear this tool yodeling at the end of TYMD like someone whose nuts get slapped I have to vomit.

And you really wonder why Glamtarts are hated on Queen boards?? Really????

Get the fuck out of here like sniff did.
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Fred didn't have to be perfect every night. He was a rock singer in a rock band. His job was to put on a show, make good music, energise the crowd etc. It wasn't his job to win a singing contest every night so that people 30 years later could point out every wrong note. I doubt anyone else will ever match what Fred achieved in his life.
"Queen is the only band in the world that can play so heavily that your nose bleeds, then offer a silk handkerchief to clean up with."
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Well said Holly2003 i totally agree with you.
Freddie was not keen on his vocals been corrected by technology and if he was around today he would be saddened by it.