Freddie and Jim Love

Someone just asked when Freddie lived with Mary we just cant get away from Mary questions it looks like someone should right a book about her so everyone can have a book discussion.I think she is a miserable lady who didnt get her prince and blames all his friends for everything that went down just my opinion.Lets talk about Jim or any other man a little bit of reality.

Yes Mary played fake around Jim and pretended to like him .When Freddie died Jim was crying one day she says dont cry you will be joining him soon.That is so cruel.She is a sociapath.

Well i never heard that but she sounds very bitter.
I bet she still hates gay people.
She must have known right from day one that Freddie was gay it was so obvious in his mannerisms and the way he spoke etc..... She stuck to him like glue because he was an up and coming rock superstar.

Yes What gets me everyone wants yo talk so kindly of her when she was clearly not a very sincere person.She wore many masks depending on who she was around.I just wish more people wanted to really talk about who Freddie was.Aside from his friends which are few and far between most spread so many lies like he was bisexual.I never heard any gossip or stories of him being either a woman after Mary.As much sex as he was having if he were into women I'm sure he would have done kids out there some where and there are none.No women have claimed to be with him either.But some men have.Dont get what is so wrong to want to sleep with a man instead of a woman it's just a body to me.Its the connection between the two people is what makes the chemistry not their gender preference.Who cares I guess alot of people where Freddie was concerned.He made beautiful timeless music.He was a kind generous heart from what I have been told that's what matters well I could go on and on.

Does anyone know if Jim is buried Ireland ?

Jim did go back to Ireland to live but he may have been cremated.

[QUOTE] [b]ST16 wrote:[/b]

Many Queen fans on here seem to shy away from Freddie's love life because they cannot handle the fact that Freddie loved men.
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What makes you think that? I have a shocking revelation for you - most people DON'T CARE about other people's sex life. And that used to be called "normal". Or "respecting other people's privacy".

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I love Freddie for who he was
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Cool, me too.

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and been gay gave him that extra magic in his music and performances.
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That's a weird thing to say. It sounds like being attracted to people of the same sex is some kind of a superpower.

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Many of his songs were about the struggle to find love or breaking up with a lover like "It's A Hard Life" where you can hear him longing to be loved.
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Yes, love is the source of world's best music for centuries. But do you actually think that if he was straight he wouldn't be able to write these songs? Well, if he was straight he probably wouldn't do VIDEOS like Hard Life, I give you that.

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Freddie's best songs were from experience as well.[/QUOTE]

Not sure about that. One of his best early songs is Ogre Battle, and I doubt it was written from experience.

[QUOTE] [b]CHEVYMAN wrote:[/b]

Tell all Jim Hutton fans to come this way it is a safe place to discuss him without being criticized or fighting homophobia.[/QUOTE]

Queenzone is a safe place??? I wouldn't say that, every thread turns into people arguing, often with childish insults

[QUOTE] [b]CHEVYMAN wrote:[/b]

I'm sure she did there alot of people that done that.Lesli Ann Jones is one she said Freddiecwas bisexual and slept with Barbara Valentine.Theres a book that will be out soon by two reliable sources written by two of his good friends I would put my life on that book its gonna be a honest one.Its Thor and Lee's book have you donated or joined their site.[/QUOTE]

Well, Freddie WAS bisexual.

[QUOTE] [b]CHEVYMAN wrote:[/b]

I feel it was very unfair for the media to put some much attention on Mary Austin's relationship to Freddie when she was clearly just a beard a prop if you will.She was also his long lifetime platonic friend not his wife or lover or the love of his life.What about Jim Hutton can anybody give him the respect he deserves make a stand for what is true and right no matter what or how others feel.Theres something wrong with that picture always has been.[/QUOTE]

What makes you think that? That's pretty rude think to say. Did you know them personally?

[QUOTE] [b][color=brown]ST16 wrote:[/color][/b][color=brown]Yes Mary was very jealous of Jim because Freddie adored him so much![/color][/QUOTE]
no she wasn't. sexual orientation is not something an individual chooses. it's not like he chose Jim over her. he chose Jim over other men - that's the difference.
Mary as an intelligent woman completely understood this and was not jealous of something that no one could have any control over.
and, I'd suggest that it WAS JIM who was jealous of Mary: FFS it's gotta hurt when your lover, Freddie Mercury says this:
[b][i]"To me, she (Mary) was my common-law wife. To me, it was a marriage. We believe in each other. That’s enough for me. I couldn’t fall in love with a man the same way as I have with Mary.”[/b][/i]
that fucking stung Jim so bad, that he saved it up, let it fester away - his jealousy (of Mary) and his not inheriting Garden Lodge. it ate away at him until resulting in his slagging her off in his book.



[QUOTE] [b][color=brown]pittrek wrote:[/color][/b][QUOTE][color=brown] [b]CHEVYMAN wrote:[/color][/b]
[color=brown]I feel it was very unfair for the media to put some much attention on Mary Austin's relationship to Freddie when she was clearly just a beard a prop if you will.She was also his long lifetime platonic friend not his wife or lover or the love of his life.What about Jim Hutton can anybody give him the respect he deserves make a stand for what is true and right no matter what or how others feel.Theres something wrong with that picture always has been.[/color][/QUOTE][color=brown]What makes you think that? That's pretty rude think to say. Did you know them personally?[/color][/QUOTE]
the people that say such disparaging things about Mary, their relationship, her inheriting Garden Lodge etc are spiteful jealous nobodies. the ONLY voice that counted with regard to Mary was Freddie: He loved her so much, he left her a mansion - if people can't respect the true love he had for her, then they're nothing less than immature fools.

[b]WHAT FREDDIE SAID ABOUT MARY:[/b]

[b][i][color=blue]"I might have ll the problem in the world, but I have Mary and that gets me through." [/color]

[color=red]"I can only name one really dear person who I can actually open up to and feel really happy with.." [/color]

[color=green]"I met Mary in 1970 and we have had a warm relationship since then. I’ve never been as close to anyone else as I have to her. We’ve lived together for 7 years and I still love her. Love is something that is the hardest to reach and it can disappoint harshly like nothing else can. Mary and I have a strong bond that has grown even stronger over the years. She has gone through many things and has always stayed by my side." [/color]

[color=purple]“All my lovers asked me why they couldn’t replace Mary, but it’s simply impossible. The only friend I’ve got is Mary, and I don’t want anybody else. To me, she was my common-law wife. To me, it was a marriage. We believe in each other. That’s enough for me. I couldn’t fall in love with a man the same way as I have with Mary.” [/color][/b][/i]

one thing that's absolutely for sure: Jim would never have slagged Mary off while Freddie was alive. Freddie loved her far too much, and jealous, small-minded Jim knew that; had he done so, then Freddie would've jettisoned Jim.

Mary hated all of Freddie's gay friends she was bitter and spiteful.
She got rid of a cat Jim got Freddie when he was ill shortly after Fred died how petty that woman was.

[QUOTE] [b]ST16 wrote:[/b]Mary hated all of Freddie's gay friends she was bitter and spiteful.
She got rid of a cat Jim got Freddie when he was ill shortly after Fred died how petty that woman was.[/QUOTE]

you know nothing. you only repeat the bile-infested murmurings of other idiots.
do the quotes from your God (Freddie) mean nothing to you? Freddie would not consider you a true fan at all. and he certainly would have no time for those who disabuse people of his thoughts on Mary.

you're a poisoned dickhead. personally, i'm glad that Freddie held Mary in such high regard and left his mansion to her, as well as financial security for her kids: why?
>> because the act of leaving so much to someone tells the whole world that you really do love that person - beyond everyone else.
>> because it eats at the very being of nasty little turdwits like you, clawing and scratching at the "injustice" lobes of your tiny brain...wrestling with the futility of your being totally impotent to change things.

Freddie would've hated c*nts like you - c*nts with absolutely no tolerance for outcomes that don't meet your desires.
more importantly, he'd hate c*nts like you who are quite simply:
spiteful, violent, fantasist, myopic, insincere, racist, fuckwit, dullard, c*nts.

This was not what I created this thread for if you guys cant behave like adults dont return.Freddie wasnt bisexual I dont believe in putting labels on someone it has created so much hatred and separation and misunderstanding in our world but what I can say from hearing it from friends that are about to release a credible book that's gonna blow shit out of the water he loved men in every way possible he didnt look twice at a woman their words. not mine.Jim wasnt jealious of Mary he understood Freddie's deep platonic love for her and the need to provide for her and her children after his death.He built a home for Jim in Ireland that suited him he was a single man with no family to care for.Im gonna watch my wording because so many people have spread so many lies about Freddie and friends it will just add fuel to fire.You guys really wanna know truth buy Thor and Lee's book I think it's almost completed check the Go fund me site.Be nice to eachother.