Brenski Here is the pic where there is street lamps and a highway in the distance of Roger Taylor proving you do not know what you are talking about.
Apologise now then?
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brENsKi
[QUOTE] [b]QE2. wrote:[/b]Ok then i will take a picture myself from the fucking Dvd and prove it.[/QUOTE]
please bear in mind that this was your latest claim
[QUOTE] [b]QE2. wrote:[/b]Brenski I have looked back and my mistake it was not Elland Road where the street lighting was blacked out it was actually Milton Keynes Bowl 1982![/QUOTE]
stop and think for a minute. the nearest road immediately visible behind the stage is Watling Street - from the backstage area there's 300yds of fields and trees.
even if you can see streetlights (half a mile away behind all those fields and trees) that do happen to be off - any picture proves nothing. this is at 8pm in summer...the street lights wouldn't be on at that time in any case. street lighting does not come on in summer til sunset or later... usually 9:15 - 9:45pm..you won't see any footage from when streetlights should've been on - the concert finished around 9:45-10pm.
and there's NO WAY the street lighting was blacked out at MK - the concert was moved from Arsenal FC to MK due to residents complaints...it was moved to Milton Keynes because at that time the bowl area was non-residential
and anyhow, your claim was that the streets were blacked out is rubbish, i don't recall having any problems finding our way out afterward.
even today - the surrounding area is largely rural/industrial units...there aren't many houses close to the bowl
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It was getting to dusk when Queen came on stage and as street lamps have photo cells to detect its getting dark they would however turn on but they did'nt.
Plus you see cars going by but i cannot tell how far away they are from the stage, but at least i have proved street lights where in the distance of the stage which you denied.
So you owe me an apology Mr.
Plus you see cars going by but i cannot tell how far away they are from the stage, but at least i have proved street lights where in the distance of the stage which you denied.
So you owe me an apology Mr.
brENsKi
[QUOTE] [b]QE2. wrote:[/b]
It was getting to dusk when Queen came on stage and as street lamps have photo cells to detect its getting dark they would however turn on but they did'nt.
Plus you see cars going by but i cannot tell how far away they are from the stage, but at least i have proved street lights where in the distance of the stage which you denied.
So you owe me an apology Mr.[/QUOTE]
no it wasn't. i was there. the sky was still very bright. and the back of the stage is in the West - check the aerial google map i posted. therefore, all of that area was directly in view of the sun - which had not yet set.
so the sky was still relatively light. as i pointed out earlier sunset was much later.
doesn't matter how much is proven to you - even by people who were there...you always know different. there's no point trying to reason with you.
you're wrong.
the street lights would not be illuminated at 8pm on June 5th
there was no blackout - there was no need...the bowl was not in a residential area.
i'll give you one more piece of assistance:
what happens when you film something with the sun behind it? it all looks darker than it really is. try it.
the longer you continue the more foolish you look. the best thing to do now is
>> leave this whole discussion until the summer
>> check the street lighting in a nearby non-residential area at 8pm
>> check how light the sky is in the west at 8pm
at least then, you'll see i was right. there was NO NEED for street lighting at 8pm. in fact there really wasn't much need at 10pm when we left the gig...although there was no problems locating our car, so lighting couldn't have been a problem...
i'll leave it to you. not arguing any more. I've proven my point. you've proven nothing.
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I think you are the foolish one because you stated earlier there was NO street lights at all behind Roger because you know it all apparently.
Lamps do not go by time they use photo cells so even if it went dark at 2pm because of a storm they would switch on.
Lamps do not go by time they use photo cells so even if it went dark at 2pm because of a storm they would switch on.
brENsKi
[QUOTE] [b]QE2. wrote:[/b]
I think you are the foolish one because you stated earlier there was NO street lights at all behind Roger because you know it all apparently.
Lamps do not go by time they use photo cells so even if it went dark at 2pm because of a storm they would switch on.[/QUOTE]
wrong. the photocells are only there to override the programmed timers, which are linked to sunrise/sunset. this only happens as you say in emergency conditions. this proves that when we exited the concert at 10pm it may still have been light enough to not require street lamps to light up. check below. read it carefully.
[b][i]In the United Kingdom, there is a legally enforced lighting-up time, defined as from half an hour after sunset to half an hour before sunrise, during which all motor vehicles on unlit public roads (except if parked) must use their headlights.
Streetlights are usually set to come on automatically near the beginning of lighting-up time, although modern lamps monitor the light level and turn on when this gets too low, and so are influenced by weather. They may also be set to switch off automatically when road usage is reduced, often at midnight, although currently most stay on until about the end of lighting-up time.[/b][/i]
check the link for full info
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lighting-up_time
this is ridiculous. it's like the only way to stop you is to second guess every twist and turn of your argument and present ALL of the facts from the outset.
look how many times your argument has changed direction, while mine has been consistent throughout. just stop and think why those who usually jump to your defence/support runner_70 aristide florian and albano1 - haven't helped you this time.
because they ALL don't want to look stupid. sure they'll argue on your side on opinion pieces, but never on actual facts.
you're on your own...because you're wrong.
I don't know how many times you need proving wrong. but I have now for the last time. you are now officially arguing with no one.
I think you are the foolish one because you stated earlier there was NO street lights at all behind Roger because you know it all apparently.
Lamps do not go by time they use photo cells so even if it went dark at 2pm because of a storm they would switch on.[/QUOTE]
wrong. the photocells are only there to override the programmed timers, which are linked to sunrise/sunset. this only happens as you say in emergency conditions. this proves that when we exited the concert at 10pm it may still have been light enough to not require street lamps to light up. check below. read it carefully.
[b][i]In the United Kingdom, there is a legally enforced lighting-up time, defined as from half an hour after sunset to half an hour before sunrise, during which all motor vehicles on unlit public roads (except if parked) must use their headlights.
Streetlights are usually set to come on automatically near the beginning of lighting-up time, although modern lamps monitor the light level and turn on when this gets too low, and so are influenced by weather. They may also be set to switch off automatically when road usage is reduced, often at midnight, although currently most stay on until about the end of lighting-up time.[/b][/i]
check the link for full info
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lighting-up_time
this is ridiculous. it's like the only way to stop you is to second guess every twist and turn of your argument and present ALL of the facts from the outset.
look how many times your argument has changed direction, while mine has been consistent throughout. just stop and think why those who usually jump to your defence/support runner_70 aristide florian and albano1 - haven't helped you this time.
because they ALL don't want to look stupid. sure they'll argue on your side on opinion pieces, but never on actual facts.
you're on your own...because you're wrong.
I don't know how many times you need proving wrong. but I have now for the last time. you are now officially arguing with no one.
Star*
No street lamps have timers now they are photo cells and as that piece of info you pasted says the weather could be an influence on the photo cells to turn the lamps on if it suddenly got dark so they are not programmed at all.
brENsKi
[QUOTE] [b]QE2. wrote:[/b]No street lamps have timers now they are photo cells and as that piece of info you pasted says the weather could be an influence on the photo cells to turn the lamps on if it suddenly got dark so they are not programmed at all.[/QUOTE]
it was 1982! you stupid cunt...all of the street lights had timers - to save money. and they were programmed on/off according to sunset. which is easily predicted...because the earth doesn;t suddenly shoot off at a random angle from the sun.
last time stupid: it was summer, it was a warm sunny day.
there was no weather related reason for the lighting to go on early. sunset 9:17
street lighting would come on about 9:45.
i've proven every single irrational point of yours wrong, and still you keep coming back....like some punch-drunk boxer who hasn't the clue how big a hiding he's taking.
sorry, one final point. YOU keep citing me as the cause of arguments. but i wasn't here for 3 years, and many people have told me how unbearable this place had been because of YOU and a couple of others. you're the bully who won't accept being proven wrong.
please stop now. i'm out of this, now, you fucking dolt.
you can have the last word...but EVERYONE can see you are wholly wrong on every idiotic non-point you've made
you're foolish beyond belief. and i'm gone from this discussion.
it was 1982! you stupid cunt...all of the street lights had timers - to save money. and they were programmed on/off according to sunset. which is easily predicted...because the earth doesn;t suddenly shoot off at a random angle from the sun.
last time stupid: it was summer, it was a warm sunny day.
there was no weather related reason for the lighting to go on early. sunset 9:17
street lighting would come on about 9:45.
i've proven every single irrational point of yours wrong, and still you keep coming back....like some punch-drunk boxer who hasn't the clue how big a hiding he's taking.
sorry, one final point. YOU keep citing me as the cause of arguments. but i wasn't here for 3 years, and many people have told me how unbearable this place had been because of YOU and a couple of others. you're the bully who won't accept being proven wrong.
please stop now. i'm out of this, now, you fucking dolt.
you can have the last word...but EVERYONE can see you are wholly wrong on every idiotic non-point you've made
you're foolish beyond belief. and i'm gone from this discussion.
CHEVYMAN
I have contacted administration and they are aware of this current situation so you two need to pipe down this thread is going to be taken down soon.You will have to find another place to disrespect one another.Take you arguements away from here to the forums section and create something and have it out maybe folks over their want to here your bs but noone here does.You dont pay for this site to run neither does anyone else I'm tired of looking at this shit.If someone else had you come over to this thread to start bullshit it can end up back over to them and you can take it back over there.So you guys better leave it will be shut down and you now have an eviction notice go to the personal section and eat eachother alive I dont care.
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Silly cunt many street lamps had photo cells in 1962 mainly highways and residential areas in the 70s had concrete lamps with timers which got phased out in late 1974.
Please don not patronise me matey because my dad worked with street lights in his long career as he was an electrician.
Please don not patronise me matey because my dad worked with street lights in his long career as he was an electrician.