Freddie's Sources of Inspiration

Brenski Look at Bohemian Rhapsody rumoured to be about his sexuality, that song would not exist if Freddie had not been gay!
Secondly i disagree about other Queen songs Freddie wrote like Somebody To Love, he was desperate for a boyfriend to love but as we know Freddie always said let the listener interpret what they think
the song is....... Don't Stop Me Now is indeed about sex so the rumours go but again that is up to the listener to decide.
Freddie's sexuality lit up Queen like a floodlight he made the band vibrant and gave them character of been regal and importance.
Straight artists are dull in comparison.

red** wrote:Brenski Look at Bohemian Rhapsody rumoured to be about his sexuality, that song would not exist if Freddie had not been gay!
Secondly i disagree about other Queen songs Freddie wrote like Somebody To Love, he was desperate for a boyfriend to love but as we know Freddie always said let the listener interpret what they think
the song is....... Don't Stop Me Now is indeed about sex so the rumours go but again that is up to the listener to decide.
Freddie's sexuality lit up Queen like a floodlight he made the band vibrant and gave them character of been regal and importance.
Straight artists are dull in comparison.

that's your opinion, but it isn't fact. you can't say something would not exist if he hadn't been gay. you can never know this - ever.
and your interpretation of STL differs from mine - and many others. why should it be about "searching for a boyfriend"? it was Freddie's attempt at a rock-gospel love song. my original point was that there was nothing "flamboyant" or "gay" about STL. you're disagreeing with me, so show me the actual "gay" or "flamboyant" lyrics...or even a part that YOU can definitely interpret as "flamboyant" or "gay".

your last sentence is incredible. and discredits almost everything else you've said. sweeping statements do not become fact just because you make them. you'd be better off starting your statements with "i think" or "i feel".

while opinions vary, the only real fact is that there are no openly "gay" Freddie compositions, and - "flamboyance" and "gay" often exist exclusively of each other. therefore, the only absolute fact is that of my original point: most of Freddie's songs were not "flamboyant", none at all were "gay", but many were androgynous.
why would he deploy androgyny? we can only assume his motives - but our assumptions wouldn't be fact either, would they?

1975 Freddie admitted to Mary he was gay which was a relief for him to be honest and open, then in 1976 Freddie composes a song about wanting love but this time
he can be open with himself about who he wants love with hence "Somebody To Love" and even Freddie admitted his songs come from personal experience and
you always get the best songs written through personal experience and i think "Somebody To Love" was about wanting a boyfriend.
You have your opinions but sometimes they are not fact either.

red** wrote:

1975 Freddie admitted to Mary he was gay which was a relief for him to be honest and open, then in 1976 Freddie composes a song about wanting love but this time
he can be open with himself about who he wants love with hence "Somebody To Love" and even Freddie admitted his songs come from personal experience and
you always get the best songs written through personal experience and i think "Somebody To Love" was about wanting a boyfriend.
You have your opinions but sometimes they are not fact either.

please read what i said, not what you think[/i] i said.
your last sentence is incorrect - i haven't uttered an opinion[/i] on this. to clarify: what i was stated is fact:[/i]
>> there are no actual "gay"[/i] or "flamboyant"[/i] lyrics in STL[/i] or LOML[/i] or Liar[/i] .
>> we can only assume his motives[/i]
>> there is nothing that clarifies he is "searching for a boyfriend"[/i] in any[/i] of his songs
>> you can never know this - ever[/i] - whether he would have written these songs, had he not been gay. there are thousands of brilliant "broken-heart" love songs written by straight people, you know.

using the word "think" as per your last post is better, because then individuals (like myself) can say, "well, i think i disagree because..."

however, as my posts were not opinion pieces, you have (accidentally) sidetracked my point.

Well fact "Its A Hard Life" is about Freddie's gay relationships breaking up because he spoke about that song in a interview and said all his best love songs are about his experiences and down falls and because Freddie is a gay man the lyrics reflect his heart break
i.e "Its a hard life
To be true lovers together
To love and live forever in each others hearts -
Its a long hard fight
To learn to care for each other
To trust in one another right from the start
When your in love.

Freddie's relationships always turned bad and he ended up getting hurt all the time and these sort of songs reflected that.

Gerry, you keep moving the argument goalposts. the discussion was about "flamboyant" and "gay" songs.
there is nothing in any of the songs quoted that could be considered either.

you started by saying:

red** wrote:[color=red]You would not get the good tunes if Freddie was not Freddie meaning he was a gay flamboyant man and that was embedded in his core as a human being. A straight man could never have been as creative as Freddie was.[/color]

my reply:

brENsKi wrote:[color=green]thirdly, and more importantly - some of (IMO) Freddie's best tunes had nothing flamboyant or gay about them. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that Somebody To Love, Love of My Life, Liar, Seven Seas of Rhye and many more, were - if anything - androgynous, in that they could be written by either gender about either gender.[/color]

your reply claimed STL was about Freddie finding a gay lover:

red** wrote:[color=red]Secondly i disagree about other Queen songs Freddie wrote like Somebody To Love, he was desperate for a boyfriend to love but as we know Freddie always said let the listener interpret what they think[/color]

to which, i responded:

brENsKi wrote:[color=green]why should it be about "searching for a boyfriend"? it was Freddie's attempt at a rock-gospel love song. my original point was that there was nothing "flamboyant" or "gay" about STL. you're disagreeing with me, so show me the actual "gay" or "flamboyant" lyrics...or even a part that YOU can definitely interpret as "flamboyant" or "gay".[/color]

then this from you:

red** wrote:[color=red]1975 Freddie admitted to Mary he was gay which was a relief for him to be honest and open, then in 1976 Freddie composes a song about wanting love but this time he can be open with himself about who he wants love with hence "Somebody To Love"[/color]

so I asked you about STL (again):

brENsKi wrote:[color=green]>> there are no actual "gay"[/i] or "flamboyant"[/i] lyrics in STL[/i] or LOML[/i] or Liar[/i] .
>> we can only assume his motives[/i]
>> there is nothing that clarifies he is "searching for a boyfriend"[/i] in any[/i] of his songs
>> you can never know this - ever[/i] - whether he would have written these songs, had he not been gay. there are thousands of brilliant "broken-heart" love songs written by straight people, you know.[/color]

your next reply is a complete sidetrack/diversion:

red** wrote:[color=red]Well fact "Its A Hard Life" is about Freddie's gay relationships[/color]

so, over the course of this discussion you've avoided answering two questions:
>> what proof do you have that Freddie could not have written STL or LOML if was straight?
>> where is the "gay" or "flamboyant" content in the lyrics to STL or LoML or Liar?

you still haven't answered this - please try to address the actual questions.

Firstly i never mentioned LOML OR Liar, so do not know why you quoted that because i never mentioned that and if you read my previous posts
i have already explained about STL.
Think what Freddie wanted in the song Somebody To Love, he is asking for a man he is a gay man, penny dropped?

red** wrote:Think what Freddie wanted in the song Somebody To Love, he is asking for a man he is a gay man, penny dropped?

not at all. that's just your interpretation. it doesn't make it the right one.
Freddie loved Aretha Franklin and i think STL was his rock/gospel moment.
Next you'll be telling us that his vaudeville/music hall moments were also odes to finding a gay partner.

regardless of your need to give all of Freddie's love songs a gay address/request of some form, this simply isn't the case.

you can guess/assume what you want - but it doesn't make you right. unless a song clearly states he's "looking for a man" - then he isn't. he's writing love/romance songs that will have universal appeal. this is something writers do. - why halve your potential sales market?


you keep claiming that only a gay Freddie could write these songs:

red** wrote:Brenski Look at Bohemian Rhapsody rumoured to be about his sexuality, that song would not exist if Freddie had not been gay!

so, i'll ask you once more: what proof[/u] do you have that Freddie could not have written STL or LOML or DSMN or Bo Rhap if was straight?

Secretly in Freddie's head a few songs were about finding a male partner but he always said its up to the listener to decide what they want the song to be.
I never said all of Freddie's songs were about him but a few were.
Around 1983/1984 Freddie's love life was very wild and the amount of men that he dated was off the scale and "Its A Hard Life " tied in nicely with that era.

red** wrote:Secretly in Freddie's head a few songs were about finding a male partner

if they were secretly in his head, then you could never know this. that's what secretly and in Freddie's head means.
therefore, stop saying things you have no proof of

red** wrote:Around 1983/1984 Freddie's love life was very wild and the amount of men that he dated was off the scale and "Its A Hard Life " tied in nicely with that era.

"tied in nicely"??? - for your imagination maybe. but unless Freddie actually said a specific song was about relationships with gay men, then you have NO PROOF. Please stop tying everything to some "agenda" you appear to be developing.


anyhow, as you've completely ignored my main point (again)...i'll ask you one last time. unless you finally answer this honestly, you can consider this exchange dead. so here goes:
what proof [/u]do you have that Freddie could not have written STL or LOML or DSMN or Bo Rhap if was straight?

red** (aka Freddie's psychotherapist) wrote:

Secretly in Freddie's head a few songs were about finding a male partner

FTFY.

What else was secretly going on in his head? Inquiring minds want to know.

red** Secretly in Freddie's head a few songs were about finding a male partner

You sound terribly desperate . What proof do you have any other than your imagination or possibly " secret" talks with a few weirdos ?

Listen if you had listened to many interviews with Freddie like i have you would educate yourself to see what Freddie was really saying in his songs.
I am not desperate because i dont give two shits what anyone on here thinks i know what Fred was saying.

@ Real Wizard Please dont mock just because your a homophobic berk.

The Real Wizard wrote:

red** (aka Freddie's psychotherapist) wrote:
Secretly in Freddie's head a few songs were about finding a male partner

FTFY.
What else was secretly going on in his head? Inquiring minds want to know.

exactly what I've been trying saying. Gerry, refuses to answer:

[color=purple]unless Freddie actually said a specific song was about relationships with gay men, then you have NO PROOF. Please stop tying everything to some "agenda" you appear to be developing.[/color]

[color=purple]what proof [/u]do you have that Freddie could not have written STL or LOML or DSMN or Bo Rhap if was straight?[/color]

he can't answer...because he HAS no actual proof. this is exactly how Gerry wins arguments:
hopping from one bizarre theory to another - thereby avoiding any previous questions. so, for one FINAL TIME Gerry, answer these TWO questions with actual proof, or reply "i don't have any proof"

please prove (and not via your own anecdotal views) - by either posting a direct link or a written quote from Freddie - that It's A Hard Life is about relationships with gay men.

what irrefutable proof (scientific, academic or otherwise) that a straight Freddie could not have written STL or LOML or DSMN or Bo Rhap

if you can't do this, just say so - and we'll move on. but either way, stop trying to pass stuff off as fact - of which you have no proof at all.