Is there some objective standard by which a tune is judged decent? All I know is whether I like it or not. Obviously if I don't like it I don't think it's decent.
fruhzs · Member since
Staying on the more calmed down part of the topic : ),
I would say that thinking on hits in different parts of the globe, not only in America, “I want to Break Free” is as big of a hit as AKOM, if not bigger, looking back on how it grew so many years later. So John is also responsible for that one.
Also, trough the years “Don’t Stop me Now” became a hot song for sure, and here in South America the live version of “Love of My Life” was a big hit trough all the 80’s and is still a big hit. Some of Freddie solo work can be considered hits in some countries as well, to some extent, like “Barcelona” , “I was Born to Love you” and “Living on my own”. Even “How can I go on” was somewhat Big here in the late 80’s.
Brian was maybe the one with less commercial impactful songs (in number of hit songs) for mainstream. Even though he wrote some great tunes, some of my favorites.
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Freddie Jupiter wrote:[/b]
Is there some objective standard by which a tune is judged decent? All I know is whether I like it or not. Obviously if I don't like it I don't think it's decent. [/QUOTE]
decent: confirming to generally accepted standards.
so it's not about single opinion - it's about consensus.
Freddie Jupiter · Member since
And just what are these generally accepted standards?
Also why should I give a shit about some consensus, if one even exists?
rockchic65 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Freddie Jupiter wrote:[/b]
And just what are these generally accepted standards?
Also why should I give a shit about some consensus, if one even exists? [/QUOTE]
All music is deemed good or bad by each individual according to whether they like it or not but technically there are criteria that make a song decent. There's plenty classical music I'm not a fan of but I'd be daft to claim they aren't decent compositions when by any technical standard they are masterpieces. Won't make me want to listen to them but that's just personal taste.
Freddie Jupiter · Member since
All well and good, but you still haven't specified these so called accepted standards.
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Freddie Jupiter wrote:[/b]All well and good, but you still haven't specified these so called accepted standards. [/QUOTE]
right now? i'd say if you dismiss a song as not being decent, then in all likelihood, said song has an excellent chance of being much better than decent.
at this point in time - in this forum, you and your opinions are fast becoming the antithesis of anything worthwhile.
Freddie Jupiter · Member since
So instead of responding to my question you've decided to resort to a personal attack.
Is that your so called worthwhile response?
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Freddie Jupiter wrote:[/b]So instead of responding to my question you've decided to resort to a personal attack.
Is that your so called worthwhile response? [/QUOTE]
if you choose to take it as a personal attack, the so be it. perhaps you wouldn't feel it was personal, it you started making sensible comments. i'll explain:
it really isn't a personal attack. It's an observation of the comments you make. To suggest the last decent song May wrote was Now I'm Here - even crediting a huge chunk of that to Freddie (weird) and then (begrudgingly) say Headlong was "decent too - I guess", is dismissing 17 years of the man's song-writing.
He didn't survive 20 years in a huge rock band by contributing nothing of any worth. Even you must see that is a ridiculous thing to claim?
Freddie Jupiter · Member since
So now I have to answer to the mighty Brenski because my opinion of Brian's writing doesn't confirm to mighty Brenski's.
Fuck off!
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Freddie Jupiter wrote:[/b]So now I have to answer to the mighty Brenski because my opinion of Brian's writing doesn't confirm to mighty Brenski's.
Fuck off![/QUOTE]
and there we have it: welcome back Gerry of old. you've become aggressive, because you really never had a lucid argument to begin with. and no, you don't have to answer to anyone, but answering to logic - once in a while might be a better route for you to take.
it's nothing to do with agreeing with me. name one other band member who survived in a major rock band for 17 years while contributing below-decent songwriting to successful LPs.
regardless of your personal opinion - it's not fact. it can't be. no band in their right mind would collective say
"it's okay, we'll keep including 4 (or more of your songs) on every LP, yeah we know they're not very good, but that's ok fella"
it's just a preposterous notion, and you know it
Freddie Jupiter · Member since
I'm nit Gerry, you dimwit, no matter how much you want me to be.
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Freddie Jupiter wrote:[/b]So now I have to answer to the mighty Brenski because my opinion of Brian's writing doesn't confirm to mighty Brenski's.
Fuck off![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE] [b]Freddie Jupiter wrote:[/b]I'm nit Gerry, you dimwit, no matter how much you want me to be. [/QUOTE]
these two posts:
poor grammar, punctuation, a spelling error, use of "mighty Brenski" and resorting to swearing and focusing on an unrelated point rather than responding to valid points made - all Classic Gerry Trademarks.
you may well not want to be Gerry, but it appears you're stuck with him as your dominant alter ego.
Freddie Jupiter · Member since
The grammar is perfect and there are no spelling mistakes. There is one typo and that's it. It's not my fault that you're too stupid to recognise good grammar when you see it.