A thread for Brenski to accuse people of being Gerry.

Freddie Jupiter wrote:Please point to where I have used an ad hominem,

for the last time, moron: I haven't said you did any such thing.[color=red] I haven't claimed you used an ad hominem, [/color]i said:
"you use the ad hominem argument on one, while actually creating - and being the main participator in a thread targeting another."
even someone "not in the top 0.1 percentile" can see i never said any such thing...i'm pointing to your hypocrisy of using the ad hominem argument in a thread YOU created to specifically attack another.
this whole thread is your literal attack on me, you fool : "against the man"

Freddie Jupiter wrote:and show me the thread that I have made to attack another.

er, this one, you moron: 5 personal attacks on me - in a thread that you created - for nothing less than personal attack purposes. regardless of what you claim your "thread creation" reasons" were - your hate agenda is wearing a very transparent veil. you were hoping you'd get dozens of bandwagon jumpers joining your fake cause.

[color=blue] Freddie Jupiter wrote:Given that Brenski continues to clog every thread with accusatations that everybody who disagrees with him and mocks his stupidity is Gerry, [/color]

[color=blue] Freddie Jupiter wrote:Brenski is the one acting like an imbecile and he tried to drag me down to his level. If you have a problem with imbecilic behaviour take it up with Brenski.[/color]

[color=blue] Freddie Jupiter wrote:This is the tactic of the dimwit. [/color]

[color=blue] Freddie Jupiter wrote: Brenski on the other hand is free to post his insane, incoherent, dishonest bullshit as much as he likes.[/color]

[color=blue] Freddie Jupiter wrote:Brenski meanwhile is free to post his incoherent, nonsensical, intellectually dishonest bullshit as much as he likes and doesn't have to seek anybody's permission.[/color]

enjoy your futile, meaningless, moronic vendetta.
now please don't expect another reply. if you can't see what you've done, then you really are as thick as you appear.

None of those are an ad hominems. Do you even know what an ad hominem is? Also in the absence of being able to point out ad hominems and threads of mine that are designed to attack people I really don't know what your point is.

Please learn to express yourself clearly first, because you're confusing the hell out of me.

It is true that Freddie's sexual life was out of control in the 80's having lots of different partners most nights,high on coke and not looking after himself in general.He paid a terrible price passing away when he would have been in his prime.I think Queen would have made some fantastic albums in the 90's and the tour's would have become more and more successful.With all the technical advances the band would have made their shows better and better.I do think that deep down Brian was very annoyed that Freddie killed the Queen brand when they were doing so well. However the Queen show is back although its not my cup of tea I am pleased for those who enjoy it .Get off Brenski's back he does make some very good points and he is a very entertaining and is not afraid to speak his mind.

Philip,

Does your comment below not suggest that Brian's mindset could be such that he influenced the films scriptwriters to present Freddie in a certain way.

"I do think that deep down Brian was very annoyed that Freddie killed the Queen brand when they were doing so well"

That kind of backs up Jupiters view. We have seen the same argument spring up in multiple threads because Jupiter says Freddie did not beg to get back in the band. The response from those arguing back are just that Jupiter cant prove it. Or that its raised too often etc.

Why cant we resolve this or at least get true opinions. We cant prove it either way but if people stated their feeling on it the debate wouldnt go on interminably. Mine is that it didnt happen like that, and that Brian's feedback may have influenced the scene. True its a film. Scenes are created for dramatic effect. But for me it doesnt sit right. Neither does the Brian character pointing out that the Bohemian Rhapsody solo was "his" composition. Sure it is, but it does feel like he is getting his own points across through the film.

AlbaNo1 wrote:
Why cant we resolve this or at least get true opinions. We cant prove it either way but if people stated their feeling on it the debate wouldnt go on interminably.

it would be good. but can you imagine the outcome of having a "horse's mouth" statement. there's some that are so anti-Brian, they'd STILL insist they are correct and that he's lying.

I don't think that Freddie ever begged to rejoin the band,he never left in the first place ! He was badly advised by Paul Pretner to do a solo album for CBS,writing all of the songs for a solo album ,which did quite well,releasing some hit singles and doing what he wanted without all of the fighting with Brian and Roger.He signed a two album deal but after the luke warm reception of Bad Guy decided that the Band was always stronger than any of them.What was Brian going to do anyway,give Paul Rodgers a ring?Also his Back To The Light Album was a patchy affair and on tour it was too much for him doing vocals and lead Guitar,playing to half full venues in USA.I did see that tour in Nottingham and it was a very good show but the Royal Concert Hall only holds 2,500 ,Knebworth,Wembley it is not. I enjoyed Queen/Paul Rodgers shows much more than what we have now with AL it was more of a rock show and I enjoyed Pauls songs alongside Queen songs.I thought Brian's solo on Alright Now was a concert highlight for me .

I enjoyed Wishing Well from QPR

Freddie Jupiter wrote:

If you're so smart how come you don't know that an ad hominem is a logical fallacy and as soon as you make one you automatically disqualify yourself from the discussion and you lose the argument?

So you relentlessly troll the internet slandering people you've never met, dubbing those who even partially agree with you as "thinking for themselves" and rejecting anything that doesn't suit your worldview of blind hatred, and then you throw the "ad hominem" card when someone simply points out your verbal diarrhea for what it is. Must be a nice tin foil hat you're wearing.

Classic conspiracy theorist. Nothing to see here.

@The Real Wizard, why should anyone listen to a guy who commits logical fallacies? Sorry, but your reputation is shot and your opinions are worthless.

[color=SaddleBrown] Freddie Jupiter wrote:@The Real Wizard, why should anyone listen to a guy who commits logical fallacies? [/color]

well, we're still listening to you...so it seems to be an unwritten rule.

Yes you're listening and I don't commit logical fallacies. So what's your point?