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snifflese wrote:

The nerve of you for crapping on QAL for the millionth time and on a QAL thread no less, Icy!! Where do you get off doing that all the time? And you have no idea what Freddie would or wouldn't do nowadays. He probably got a bit more sedate because he didn't want to be known as openly, admittedly ga, nor that he had AIDS.. He was doing his best to hide that fact and would never publicly say anything until right before he died. If he were free like he could be now, I bet he would just go for it. He was very flamboyant even when closeted, so he would have a ball in this day and age when most folks don't care.

Just cut the crap with the bigging up. Nothing can be mentioned here because to you any fact is bigging up. You are the most annoying person ever as you repeat yourself in every post. What is wrong with you? I simply said there is older music for fans that prefer old syle rock and the new concerts, esp Queen, have a more modern vibe with the enhanced outfits, lights and a different approach to the format of the concert. What is your problem with that? There is something out there for everyone. Do tell me how many concerts you have been to in the last 20 years and how many times you have seen QAL so that you have some real knowledge of the subject? Singing the hits doesn't mean the whole show is not remade with a modern twist to it. You have no clue what you are talking about as usual. You are such a bitter person that just can't live without Freddie being front and center. Unfortunately it is tough when he is dead and John doesn't care. People are not going to be flocking to Queen concerts were those members who are not there, are front and center. The majority of the world loves QAL just as it is now. They are willing to recognize that things change due to circumstances and you appreciate what is currently offered.

Wahhhh!!!
Yea, and you are the one and only person who has ever said that you found Freddie kind of scary. Does it make you feel better to post something like that on a Queen board in your hopes it would make AL look better? The mind fuckery from you.
Freddie evolved in his last years, I said that, not what he would be doing now. Yes, i doubt he would have worn the crown and cape year after year the way AL has. If anyone believed your crap, you wouldn't know if Freddie walked around 24/7 in extreme stage costumes. You want to mouth off about Freddie, but you can't even debate the point that AL has been wearing a cornet for nearly a decade now. Time for him to let that go, or will his ego not let him? At the end of the day you don't care to learn about Freddie and Queen even a quick search would prove that Freddie evolved, but it is all about AL to you and for you. Gotta defend AL no matter what though, right, at the same time you are knocking Freddie down.

It was the 70's and 80's and men did not go out of their way to announce that they were gay. People could surmise all they wanted, but no one knew for sure. There wasn't 24/7 news for all the casual fans to know that Freddie was gay. Why didn't he ever come out and say so or only admit to AIDS just before he died. I just read today and Brian said they really weren't totally sure what Freddie was as to Bi or gay. I don't think the general public knew for sure what he was and I sure many didn't even thank about it. It is only you obsessed people who think you know everything. If his mates didn't, not sure how you did. Thank you very much, but I am not stupid and once again thanks for that. The bottom line is that it is 2020 and you have no idea in hell as to what Freddie would have been doing the last 15 years or so. I think he would have loved make up and fancy clothes. Look at Elton John? They can go for it now whereas back then, they could not. To me your thoughts don't make sense to me.

I am also amazed at how much time, Cosmic, you spend looking up Adam's fashions and all these other things. Why would you do that since you dislke him quite a bit? You are turning into another Runner here. By the way I can pull up thousands of nice pics of Adam wearing the most wonderful suits. He doesn't show up at the Grammy's, or Kennedy Center or on TV wearing flamboyant items. There are 100 regular looking outfits for every crazy one and concert clothes don't count. Lately he has worn stranger clothes but they harken back to the 1970's and "80, velvet leisure suits with bell bottoms. That is for the vibe of his new album. I remember straight guys back in the day wearing stuff that was very similar. Adam does not dress like a woman, nor is his fashion too feminine and he knows what is appropriate, so quit with the trash talk since it isn't factual. By the way you will not find Adam in athletic gear since that is also not his thing. You are just looking for ways to demean him!

I am not sure who you think Adam is/was hanging out with? He hangs with other gay guys! I don't think the wild crowd Freddie got into in the 80's included a bunch of really nice young men, oh wait, that was all they included! You have a lot of nerve to talk about Adam the way you do. He comes from a wonderful loving family who had no issues with him regarding sexuality and he still has the same group of super friends, both male and female to hang with and keep him grounded. I have never heard one of his past boy friends, or anyone, trash talk about him. He is supposed to be a great guy and you obviously are not, since you are always trying to bring him down. I think if you researched the wild lifestyle of Freddie in the 80's and Adam's now, I know who would definitely not be the choirboy. Freddie was just lucky that the paparazzi leeches are not like they are now, or pseudo- friends with the camera who post awful stuff about their so called Friends. I have read about Freddie's lifestyle and parties and it was out there. You never see any of that stuff about Adam. If he did that in this day and age, it would be all over the internet. I think you are totally off base, as usual, just making up stuff.

rockchic65 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote:

snifflese wrote:

Personally, I find that a lot of Freddie's outfits for concerts were pretty out there and if it were now, I am sure he would give Adam a run for his money. I find the varying outfits for the different tours and sections of each concert are cool. Some outfits suit him better than others, but people wait to see what he will be wearing and it is just fun. Some of the choices have been amazing and others are near misses, but that is what is fun about it. The neatest part is that Roger and particularly Brian often have matching colors and outfits themselves. I love the gold and black lame thing Brian wore and the "bat" cape. His space alien outfit was ever so neat. It just adds to the fun and excitement of the show. It is entertainment and part of it is costumes and lights and other exciting things. Rock in the last 5 years or so is not rock from the 1980's. If you like stuff from back then, more power to you, but the new QAL tour has a much more modern
vibe while singing the classics and it works superbly.

Yes, I’m sure a 73 year old would be all out there giving Adam a run for his money. I personally don’t care what Adam wears, but let’s not be ridiculous. Freddie, though feminine at times, enjoyed wearing suits. He liked jeans and military jackets. He liked wearing athletes clothes. He also liked privacy and wouldn’t be on a tv show mimicking sex moves of any kind. He wouldn’t be playing dress up at home and uploading makeup selfies on an Instagram story. His friends say he wouldn’t even be into social media, he’d be mortified by it. Freddie didn’t mind if people dressed as women... he mentioned Boy George dressing up several times. He hired drag queens at parties. But look at 1980’s, he thought the macho and gentleman look was the way to go. Most of his career he dressed pretty casual for a rock star. The 70’s was a time where everyone was dressing similar. Mystique. Dressing up in full drag later in Queen videos was comedic to Freddie, it wasn’t sexual... Roger was with him in each video (Break Free was Roger’s idea).

Adam actually creates selfie videos trying to look sexy with his makeup. He did this before the COVID-19 outbreak. He behaves like a teenage girl. I’m sure something was fucked up in his life during his younger years. Most likely he was bullied. Pock marks and all that. Wants to feel pretty. Adam wears makeup as often as Michael Jackson did.

I don’t care that Adam does those things. I find it stupid, but don’t say Freddie would do that and more if he was alive. Freddie didn’t even hang around with people like that. Freddie’s personal life was far more conservative than Adam’s.

And yes it’s 2020, and people can get away with more. The only problem is that Freddie wasn’t hugely into drag or all that makeup. He wore big fake tits during I Want To Break Free live. 1984 vs 2020 on shock value didn’t matter, because Freddie already could do those things. It was part of the entertainment. Adam literally enjoys playing dress up and makeup daily, at home. Freddie would probably joke to his friends if someone mentioned Adam’s Instagram and say something like, “surely can’t the young whipper snapper find something else to do?”

Well the point is Adam is Adam and he's not Freddie so comparing what the two would do is pointless. There's no way to know what Freddie would have done had social media and the current more open climate regarding being gay been around when he was in his 20's and 30's, I personally think he'd have really gone for it on stage and wear even more outrageous clothes etc but offstage is probably a different matter, I can't really imagine him being the social media type even if it had been around then but that's just my opinion, there's really no way to know for sure.

Yeah Adam enjoys playing dress up, always has since being tiny so that's nothing to do with having been bullied or anything else that happened in his life, he was far too young for that when he first got interested in clothes and dressing up etc. As to wearing make up, yeah he's said he probably got into wearing make up to cover up what he found to be ugly like zits etc, no secret, he's very open about his thoughts like that. Adam dressing up and wearing make up is nothing to do with drag though, that really isn't his thing and he's only done that about three times and not the full on drag thing with boobs and tucking etc.

snifflese wrote:

It was the 70's and 80's and men did not go out of their way to announce that they were gay. People could surmise all they wanted, but no one knew for sure. There wasn't 24/7 news for all the casual fans to know that Freddie was gay. Why didn't he ever come out and say so or only admit to AIDS just before he died. I just read today and Brian said they really weren't totally sure what Freddie was as to Bi or gay. I don't think the general public knew for sure what he was and I sure many didn't even thank about it. It is only you obsessed people who think you know everything. If his mates didn't, not sure how you did. Thank you very much, but I am not stupid and once again thanks for that. The bottom line is that it is 2020 and you have no idea in hell as to what Freddie would have been doing the last 15 years or so. I think he would have loved make up and fancy clothes. Look at Elton John? They can go for it now whereas back then, they could not. To me your thoughts don't make sense to me.

I am also amazed at how much time, Cosmic, you spend looking up Adam's fashions and all these other things. Why would you do that since you dislke him quite a bit? You are turning into another Runner here. By the way I can pull up thousands of nice pics of Adam wearing the most wonderful suits. He doesn't show up at the Grammy's, or Kennedy Center or on TV wearing flamboyant items. There are 100 regular looking outfits for every crazy one and concert clothes don't count. Lately he has worn stranger clothes but they harken back to the 1970's and "80, velvet leisure suits with bell bottoms. That is for the vibe of his new album. I remember straight guys back in the day wearing stuff that was very similar. Adam does not dress like a woman, nor is his fashion too feminine and he knows what is appropriate, so quit with the trash talk since it isn't factual. By the way you will not find Adam in athletic gear since that is also not his thing. You are just looking for ways to demean him!

I am not sure who you think Adam is/was hanging out with? He hangs with other gay guys! I don't think the wild crowd Freddie got into in the 80's included a bunch of really nice young men, oh wait, that was all they included! You have a lot of nerve to talk about Adam the way you do. He comes from a wonderful loving family who had no issues with him regarding sexuality and he still has the same group of super friends, both male and female to hang with and keep him grounded. I have never heard one of his past boy friends, or anyone, trash talk about him. He is supposed to be a great guy and you obviously are not, since you are always trying to bring him down. I think if you researched the wild lifestyle of Freddie in the 80's and Adam's now, I know who would definitely not be the choirboy. Freddie was just lucky that the paparazzi leeches are not like they are now, or pseudo- friends with the camera who post awful stuff about their so called Friends. I have read about Freddie's lifestyle and parties and it was out there. You never see any of that stuff about Adam. If he did that in this day and age, it would be all over the internet. I think you are totally off base, as usual, just making up stuff.

You fucking sparkle cow, you clueless sparkle cow.
What are you trying to do here, speak for every gay man from that time? Freddie didn't admit he had AIDS until the day before he died to protect his family and his friends from the public eye, because the tabloids were hounding him and he didn't want that to happen to them. . Seriously, do you think even for a second before you post? It seems like Freddie not admitting that he has AIDS until the the day before he died is yet another issue for you, is something else you have an issue about regarding Freddie. Why?

Freddie was lucky that the paparazzi were not leeches ? My God, the man was hounded when he was dying, is that not awful enough for you?. Freddie was lucky, you say...no dear, he wasn't, he was hounded when he was dying, how much worse could it become? Oh did the papers cover a barfight that AL had with a boyfriend at one time, you can hardly compare anything Freddie went through with the tabloids and paparazzi with AL. Really, it's worlds apart.

GTFO. You have proven that you don't give a shit about Freddie, let alone caring what he went through . Your true colors here are worse than anything Saint Jiub and MisterCosmicc has ever said in response to you. You even throw Freddie's private life out there like you simply don't care.
Don't come here running to even try to defend AL ever again after the shit you are spewing here. You are a disgraceful person in this post.

It would have been so much worse today, Icy. The media knows everything about you. They guessed back then and had some pics, but the true extent was not out there for everybody to dissect like it would have been today. Sure he was hounded because he was gay, but that is why I think cosmic is stupid to say that everyone knew and he didn't hide it. Of course, he did. I would have, too. That is why I think he got more conservative in dress and manner later in life because he didn't want everyone to know what was going on. Today that wouldn't be a problem at all, so I believe he would have been free to be more flamboyant and let it all hang out. It was a horrible time back then for anyone gay, but that is why I don't think you can predict his behavior now since there is an entirely different mindset now. You always act as if you knew him intimately. So weird!

Get over your Freddie obsession. I don't have worry about Freddie, as that is not my job. You do it so nicely. How many millions a year do you get for such a wonderful job, (like you are always asking SC, but about being on Adam's payroll, stupid, right?), you take it to the absolute extreme! Are you related or something that you just have a rage when you don't think Freddie gets enough praise? I personally am sich\k and tired of you bigging up Freddie here on this QAL thread! Does that sound like someone you know? You need to sit in a closet with no devices and take a chill pill. You might feel better! When you see the stupid things you say, turned back at you, maybe you can see why they are so dumb and annoying.

snifflese wrote:

It would have been so much worse today, Icy. The media knows everything about you. They guessed back then and had some pics, but the true extent was not out there for everybody to dissect like it would have been today. Sure he was hounded because he was gay, but that is why I think cosmic is stupid to say that everyone knew and he didn't hide it. Of course, he did. I would have, too. That is why I think he got more conservative in dress and manner later in life because he didn't want everyone to know what was going on. Today that wouldn't be a problem at all, so I believe he would have been free to be more flamboyant and let it all hang out. It was a horrible time back then for anyone gay, but that is why I don't think you can predict his behavior now since there is an entirely different mindset now. You always act as if you knew him intimately. So weird!

Get over your Freddie obsession. I don't have worry about Freddie, as that is not my job. You do it so nicely. How many millions a year do you get for such a wonderful job, (like you are always asking SC, but about being on Adam's payroll, stupid, right?), you take it to the absolute extreme! Are you related or something that you just have a rage when you don't think Freddie gets enough praise? I personally am sich\k and tired of you bigging up Freddie here on this QAL thread! Does that sound like someone you know? You need to sit in a closet with no devices and take a chill pill. You might feel better! When you see the stupid things you say, turned back at you, maybe you can see why they are so dumb and annoying.

How much worse could it have been snifflese?? To hound a dying man on his deathbed. Freddie is just one example, there are literally thousands of people who had their personal lives invaded by the the tabloads and paparazzi.
It could have been so much worse. Funny thing, many Glamberts dig and spread things about AL's person life, even what he clicks likes on social media. When he's away, hey let's figure out ehow is walking also dog. Even on Queen boards AL's personal life has been posted about by a fellow Glambert. Funny how you don't call that out.

But, hey let's have have you ask without a thought or a care why Freddie didn't admit until the day before he died that he had AIDS. You don't even notice where I said and it's a fact btw, that he did it to protect his family and his friends. That's a fact, and you'd know it if you took a moment to look it up, but you can't be bothered, right? Nah, too busy mouthing off about Freddie and defending your Idol and your fellow Glambert to do anything else.

Fuck off about my Freddie obsessed that you think I have. You are so obsessed about Lambert, that you have the gall to try to knock Freddie down to make AL look bigger and better than AL...than AL ever was or ever will be. You have become the type of Glambert that does yourself or Lambert any favours. Really, you are no better than SweetCaroline at this point.

No, I'm not related to Freddie. But you are here mouthing off about him, from his clothes to his personal life...and you my dear, need a life. I don't think you even realise where you are posting at. You need to fuck right off and learn a thing or two before you spew your shit. Does it make you feel better to defend AL so much that nothing much else matters to you? Do you realise how insensitive ( saying you are insensitive is mild, you are being a bitch ) you are being here when you say Freddie was lucky? His friends weren't such nice people...the absolute shit you spew and you go around being offended over nothing. A snarky attitude is offensive to you, but you don't realise how you are behaving here.
You say I deserve anything I get. People should look at your posts in here to see what you really think about Freddie.

I am not mouthing off. I am stating my opinion that he might not be as conservative now as you seem to think. What in the world is wrong with that? I don't understand how Freddie gets a pass for his outrageous outfits and pretty wild life and yet it is Adam that gets all the crap. In what world is that fair? Other people are allowed to have opinions on here also. Not everyone is you or shares your pretty one sided view of life. I have read quite a few things about Queen and there were many mentions about Freddie and the wild, bathhouse (for example) lifestyle he was into. Brian was very worried about all of that. You can't change facts, Icy. I only replied to someone else who is making fun of Adam's friends and criticizing how he looks when he knows nothing about Adam. When you people make statements that aren't factually true, I get to have my say also. It has nothing to do with insensitivity or being offended. Why are you people the only ones that can make statements? Why can I not reply to some of the crap I see on here that I know is not true. Tough, if you don't like it. Anyone that talks to people like you do, shouldn't be talking about behavior. You call people out and then you are incensed when they reply in kind to you. Once again, tough.

snifflese wrote:

I am not mouthing off. I am stating my opinion that he might not be as conservative now as you seem to think. What in the world is wrong with that? I don't understand how Freddie gets a pass for his outrageous outfits and pretty wild life and yet it is Adam that gets all the crap. In what world is that fair? Other people are allowed to have opinions on here also. Not everyone is you or shares your pretty one sided view of life. I have read quite a few things about Queen and there were many mentions about Freddie and the wild, bathhouse (for example) lifestyle he was into. Brian was very worried about all of that. You can't change facts, Icy. I only replied to someone else who is making fun of Adam's friends and criticizing how he looks when he knows nothing about Adam. When you people make statements that aren't factually true, I get to have my say also. It has nothing to do with insensitivity or being offended. Why are you people the only ones that can make statements? Why can I not reply to some of the crap I see on here that I know is not true. Tough, if you don't like it. Anyone that talks to people like you do, shouldn't be talking about behavior. You call people out and then you are incensed when they reply in kind to you. Once again, tough.

Yes dear, you are mouthing off. It's practical all your posts consists of.
Tell you what snifflese, it's one thing to mouth off about me, but it's another thing when you mouth off about Freddie on a Queen board. Yes, I'm sure Freddie was so lucky *sarcasm* to be hounded by the paprizzi on his death bed. You should be lucky AL has never had to face anything even close to that. You should have took a min or two to look up things before you spewed your shit about Freddie here today.

Oh boo hoo for fucking you, someone made fun of AL and his friends, and that gave you the right to say shit about Freddie? It didn't. It doesn't. All you are proving here is how very bitter you are about Freddie.
Honey, your behavior here on QZ is rotten to the core, from your first post in. Obviously you aren't a Freddie or a Queen fan at all, and you don't like Queen fans very much, so why are you here? To defend AL and your buddy, shit stirring all the while, even trying to knock Freddie down...while the least little things gets to you.

Btw, look up the stament put out there before he died. That took courage and guts, not that you will ever realise it.

Not sure what I am spewing crap about or what isn't true or why it shows any dislike of Freddie. It was sad what happened to him and all gay men back then. I said it was horrible, but if the media got a hold of some of that nowadays, it could be even worse. That is my opinion and it doesn't detract from Freddie at all. I think he would have been out and proud and flamboyant today, that is also my opinion. He did wear outrageous costumes and outfits. He did have a really wild lifestyle with many poor choices at one point. Enough things that Brian and the others were worried about him. All of those statements are true other than my one opinion. It shows no dislike for Freddie. He was amazing, but you can't tolerate things that you don't like that are true. Is this China or Russia where they rewrite history? Other people can discuss things on here without getting their panties in a wad like you do. If it bothers you, go somewhere else with your nonsense. You have blinders on when it comes to Freddie, but have a magnifying glass to find fault with other people constantly.

Discussions are when one person writes something and another either agrees or tell that person why they don't feel the same way. That is what this forum is for. It is not a lovefest for Freddie on this thread, you can do that in many other places on QZ. If that is what you are looking for, go find another non QAL thread,

snifflese wrote:

Not sure what I am spewing crap about or what isn't true or why it shows any dislike of Freddie. It was sad what happened to him and all gay men back then. I said it was horrible, but if the media got a hold of some of that nowadays, it could be even worse. That is my opinion and it doesn't detract from Freddie at all. I think he would have been out and proud and flamboyant today, that is also my opinion. He did wear outrageous costumes and outfits. He did have a really wild lifestyle with many poor choices at one point. Enough things that Brian and the others were worried about him. All of those statements are true other than my one opinion. It shows no dislike for Freddie. He was amazing, but you can't tolerate things that you don't like that are true. Is this China or Russia where they rewrite history? Other people can discuss things on here without getting their panties in a wad like you do. If it bothers you, go somewhere else with your nonsense. You have blinders on when it comes to Freddie, but have a magnifying glass to find fault with other people constantly.

Discussions are when one person writes something and another either agrees or tell that person why they don't feel the same way. That is what this forum is for. It is not a lovefest for Freddie on this thread, you can do that in many other places on QZ. If that is what you are looking for, go find another non QAL thread,

You don't even have the guts to admit how awful you can be. So, shut up before you fall in that shit hole you are digging for for yourself.

You really hate the fact Freddie is ever mentioned here. That's one of your biggest issues. You bitter about the man and his fans is obvious. Why are you even here, do tell? Jealous or something? I think you know Lambert is nowhere near Freddie, and that bothers you. More than bothers you, you can't stand the man is still beloved and admired. I'd say after the shit you pull about the guy, you don't even like him or his music. You are blind in many ways as it happens. Your ignorance is ugly.
If things are still like China, Russia??? Wtf are you on? Do you know how batshit you are being here?

Seriously, shut up. Go to Adamtopia and stay there. You aren't wanted or needed here at all, because you offer nothing but rage and bitterness, even about Freddie. Think twice the next time you want to cry wolf about how you think you are treated and how AL is treated here because you are absolutely thoughtless, ugly and bitter here today. All because someone made fun of your Idol's costumes. That was enough for you to go for Freddie and try to keep over him down. Pathetic is what you are.
You are older than me, but you have an awful lot of growing up to do. Try getting some compassion in the meantime, looks like you could use some.

Hey why dont you Lambert fans register on the new Queen site that Brenski has just opened with his mafia gang Real Wizard Vocal Harmony etc......
Go and bugger there site up with your Adam crap.

This thread is for Adam and QAL just in case you were never aware of it!! You have some nerve. Is these QAL threads just for bitter old Queen fans to tear down Adam, Roger and Brian and thoroughly trash everything that they do? Don't think so.

No, Icy, you are off on your usual tangent. I was merely discussing things with someone else and you don''t like when some of the truth's of Freddie's life come out. I am not bitter. I have said so many times that Adam will never be a Freddie. Are you happy. but his fans should be able to come here and talk about things they like concerning Adam and QAL. We can't do that because of people like you that want a perpetual Freddie love fest, which is not the purpose of the QAL threads. If someone criticizes Adam's dress, Freddie's wild clothes can be brought up. All you want is positivity for Freddie, so go to a Freddie thread for that. There were no arguments with the 3 other posters yesterday talking about Adam and his dress, just some give and take, until you come in with your shit stirring. Then it is all over and I don't believe any one vindictive person should be capable of shutting everything down. That is what you always try to do.

Snifflese There is a new website available now where you can talk Adam nonsense so go and hack all those Queen fans off.
Tell SweetCaroline she will be gagging to put a word in for her odd entity Adam.

http://queenchat.boards.net/ . There you are enjoy !